I like how some religious people say that you don't need to believe in God to be a good person. It makes me stop and think when religious people quote Karl Marx: "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people" and then point-out that atheism takes away our guilt over doing wrong things (like stealing)! I found it comforting to know that every good deed would be rewarded in the afterlife, and every bad deed would be punished. I wish I had never become an atheist, but if my search for truth and morality leads me to reject the existence of not only the Biblical God, but also the Hindu/Buddhist/Gnosis God which is synonymous with the Universe itself... My rejection that there is a sentient entity greater than humans which cares about human suffering allows me to perceive human suffering and act with more consideration towards other people's perspectives. Yet on the flipside, my rejection of atheism allowed me to perceive the beauty and eloquent structure of life and the universe! So I love it at 52:05 when Cardinal George Pell says that it's the job of atheists to explain goodness and the job of religion to explain suffering. At 41:59 Catholic Cardinal is saying that atheism is fine. And at 32:40 he tells us that Adam and Eve is a religious story told for religious purposes to try to explain the evil and the suffering in the world.
Originally Posted by Facebook GodOriginally Posted by James RobertOriginally Posted by Scott AllanLet me give my interpretation: it is the job of atheists to treasure truth, and the job of religion to treasure morality. So it is hypocritical to use religious beliefs to promote evil deeds, or to use atheist beliefs to promote deception. I think the best argument for religion is that it provides morals to our perspective, and the best argument for atheism is that it provides rationality to our perspective. I personally think that understanding moral relativism from a rational perspective allows us to follow our morals even better!! But in the end, everything is just an opinion. If people around me want to be religious, then I can humor them for the sake of politeness, even if I have no soul or spirit. Religion postulates a benevolent God to state that life is fair, or death is not the end, and thus encourage people to do good deeds by offering incentive in the afterlife, and discourage people from doing bad deeds by providing a source of guilt or retribution. I can't hate people for seeking some sort of fairness in life, and a meaning behind their existence. If you feel that believing in karma and heaven helps you to be a better person then you're probably right. But if you can't find God, then you can still be good by having empathy and being altruistic I wanted to commit suicide when my empathy for the lives that I indirectly exploit made me feel that the shit I give others outweighs the value of my existence. But surprise surprise - we have survival instincts.Originally Posted by Mercedez Mendez-Whitehurst
Those are my thoughts when I hear religious people tolerating atheism. I personally would rather be religious... But I'd want to find one that doesn't have a God.