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    Monday, January 6 2014, 04:21 PM MST By: Melissa Gundersen LAS CRUCES, N.M. --
    New details are released in the case of a northwest Las Cruces man who fought off four men to protect himself, his fiancée and their 2-year-old son. According to deputies, two days ago, four men broke into a home on King James Road. It left one man dead, one man injured and landed two others in jail. On Friday, KFOX 14 crews went to the house to speak with the victim, Joseph Torrez, but no one was home.

    "Last night they had about four or five trucks over there just throwing stuff in. Just vacating the premises," said neighbor David Cooper. Neighbors said they're still confused what happened. "They were all nice and quiet and I don't know what happened," said Cooper. KFOX 14 got a hold of the arrest affidavit. Deputies said it all started with an argument between Torrez and four other men. One of the men, Leonard Calvillo, called Torrez on the phone. The arrest affidavit said, Calvillo threatened to go to Torrez's home. The affidavit quoted Calvillo when talking to Torrez saying, "I will kill you and your family."

    Shortly after that threat, Torrez's home was seen with a broken glass door and broken window. Deputies said Calvillo along with Nathan Avalos, Sal Garces and Raymond Garces broke into the home. They said Torrez's fiancée tried to hold the four men back, but was unable to. The arrest affidavit reveals the men tossed furniture and then physically attacked Torrez. "We heard the sirens and the lights and we looked outside and saw the cop cars," said Cooper.

    Deputies said Torrez was able to fight off all four men, protecting himself and his family. Neighbors said what alarmed them the most was a body bag lying in the street. "We were a little shocked about it because normally this neighborhood is really quiet," said Cooper. Deputies said Sal Garces died from stab wounds. What appears to be blood stains can still be found on Torrez's property. Avalos was taken to the hospital. Calvillo and Raymond Garces were arrested and face multiple charges including aggravated battery and aggravated burglary. Messages to one of the defendant's family members weren't returned.

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    That dude must be a serious badass.

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    That dude must be a serious badass.
    He knived a presumably unarmed guy to death.
    All about this is just tragic and I can detect not much worth of admiring here.

    However we crazy Europeans, when someone breaks into our house usually don't celebrate that as a rare chance opportunity to kill someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romgor View Post
    The affidavit quoted Calvillo when talking to Torrez saying, "I will kill you and your family."
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    Torrez's fiancée tried to hold the four men back, but was unable to. The arrest affidavit reveals the men tossed furniture and then physically attacked Torrez.
    Watch him get a lifetime in prison anyways - because justice system!!!

    If a lower-class worker even tries to trespass on a rich white guy's agricultural property in a developing country, he gets shot. These guys made explicit death threats, broke into his home, went after his children, overpowered his wife, and attacked Torrez. Torrez fought back. What part of this does not make sense? Oh - I don't reaaaally wanna stay alive or have any of my children live, so I guess I'll just sit still and let a bunch of thugs beat me up so they can murder my wife and children...

    Moral of the story: don't break into someone's house threatening to murder their family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    All about this is just tragic and I can detect not much worth of admiring here.

    However we crazy Europeans, when someone breaks into our house usually don't celebrate that as a rare chance opportunity to kill someone.
    "Deputies said Torrez was able to fight off all four men, protecting himself and his family"

    Yeah, not much worth admiring there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romgor View Post
    "Deputies said Torrez was able to fight off all four men, protecting himself and his family"

    Yeah, not much worth admiring there
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    You shouldn't admire someone killing someone, bro.

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    Yeah I guess he's the bad guy in this story. He could've used his obvious ninja skills to subdue them and tie them up and wait for the police to arrive. Rational thought is a priority when 4 guys break into your home after threatening to kill you and your family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romgor View Post
    "Deputies said Torrez was able to fight off all four men, protecting himself and his family"
    Sounds like the guys lawyer will have to send the deputies a bottle of scotch each. Awfully convenient spin on the story.
    Usually guys who get into fights like that are not very impressive people. Getting people so mad at you, that they want to murder you (brilliant execution, especially the warning, proper whiskey tango redneckin going on here), you are generally at least one of two things, a massive *******, or a massive idiot, but for all I know he could be swell. I wonder, if alcohol played a role... In case the attacker was drunk, the fiance was in prior direct contact and not hurt there is little to construe a plausible threat for his life. Where they driving over, to strangle him barehanded? Looks like a bunch of certified morons to me. Just saying.

    Also rational thought is always a priority, because irrational thought kinda sucks, lol.
    Well don't take it too hard, it's just that I am personally not finding the story very heroic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romgor View Post
    Yeah I guess he's the bad guy in this story. He could've used his obvious ninja skills to subdue them and tie them up and wait for the police to arrive. Rational thought is a priority when 4 guys break into your home after threatening to kill you and your family.
    I'm not saying he's the bad guy. I'm saying a story that ends in murder and assault shouldn't make you happy.

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    as a trained mma special forces personal security and assassination spe******t, i can truly say this is a credit to the profession!!!

    GGGOOOO POWER KILLERS GGOOO!!!!! yay !

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    Shame he wasn't able to finish off the others. Even more of a shame that the justice system won't fry them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSkald View Post
    You shouldn't admire someone killing someone, bro.
    Oh then I guess we should just disband the military? Give all of the peacekeepers some tranquilizer darts. That'll work. /sarcasm

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    Isn't this how the movie Con-Air starts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenoca View Post
    Oh then I guess we should just disband the military? Give all of the peacekeepers some tranquilizer darts. That'll work. /sarcasm
    this has nothing to do with what skald said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    He knived a presumably unarmed guy to death.
    All about this is just tragic and I can detect not much worth of admiring here.

    However we crazy Europeans, when someone breaks into our house usually don't celebrate that as a rare chance opportunity to kill someone.
    they threatened to kill him, his wife and his 2 years old son and then broke into his house soon after.. normally im against killing but i think he receives some credit here. but then again, they knew his phone number so maybe theres more to it

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    Killing people, never a good thing.

    But, in the situation, I can see how somebody would jump to the kill-or-be-killed mentality.

    I doubt he intended to kill the guy, but, I guess these things happen.


    There is something admirable about being able to summon the courage to defend one's loved ones, if that involving killing, then, yes, that's what it takes.

    But, the simple act of killing is not admirable.
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    In a four against one situation like that you are going to have use an incredible amount of force to defend yourself, and that amount is likely to be lethal.

    It is unfortunate that the guy died, but if four people are threatening you and your family it is best to take the strongest measures you can defend yourself and family. Four people are capable of killing an MMA fighter, no matter how well trained he is. He had to do what he had to do because they gave him no choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenonight2 View Post
    In a four against one situation like that you are going to have use an incredible amount of force to defend yourself, and that amount is likely to be lethal.

    It is unfortunate that the guy died, but if four people are threatening you and your family it is best to take the strongest measures you can defend yourself and family. Four people are capable of killing an MMA fighter, no matter how well trained he is. He had to do what he had to do because they gave him no choice.
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    Here in the Netherlands was a time when a burglar broke into your house and tripped and broke his leg or something, he could sue you..
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    Too bad he didn't get the other three.

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    I enjoy how many people in here would calmly talk down burglars or use only safe karate against a crew of people who outnumbered you immensely. As if anyone here ever knows what the **** they would do in that situation. Ugh it stinks of reddit in here. Its not like he was walking down the street and got mugged, and had a chance to escape. These people broke into his HOME after telling him over the phone they were coming to kill him AND his family. They're lucky they didn't all leave in a hearse. Wtf kind of world do we live in where we condemn a man for saving not only his own life, but the lives of his wife and infant child?

    Thats enough internet for today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    He knived a presumably unarmed guy to death.
    All about this is just tragic and I can detect not much worth of admiring here.

    However we crazy Europeans, when someone breaks into our house usually don't celebrate that as a rare chance opportunity to kill someone.
    You obviously do not have a family
    (nor the testicals to produce one)

    Im not sure if your posts are pure trolling or if you honestly beleive the drivle you spew but it is extreamly offensive and really undermines any other posts you make by showing you are incapable of rational thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narfi Hungry Willem View Post
    You obviously do not have a family
    (nor the testicals to produce one)

    Im not sure if your posts are pure trolling or if you honestly beleive the drivle you spew but it is extreamly offensive and really undermines any other posts you make by showing you are incapable of rational thought.
    Lol. Yea, I don't have a family, how does that work?
    The point there is two things:
    a) People are easily manipulated, which works this way: Whatever they read first they believe. After that they read different things, things that agree and things that don't. They actually don't have to agree, It's normally enough to fake it. After a person turns about 18, he/she has been told so much stuff that two things happen. The shit they have been told is so ingrained in them that you cant really change it up anymore, so no new shit goes in. Also the old shit won't go out anymore. We call that having developed a personality.
    b) After that stage people will, ignoring death and peril, try to recreate that stuff and read it into everything, in complete disregard of the reality.

    Now for example I can tell you that statistics say its very usual all five guys have been drunk at the time. Its also usual that all five of them are not very well educated and by all standards not very responsive to education. That's profiling. We don't do that because it's morally wrong. Of course we can say the attackers where morons, because they where presumably unarmed and warned the victim, so they clearly acted moronic.
    The thing is you can profile in a positive light too: Everyone who get's confronted by a bunch of morons is a hero.
    Everyone who kills someone in his house is a hero.
    Everyone who kills someone close to his family: Instant hero status.
    That's because if you have been fed that story enough, you stop to be curious to the circumstances. When I look at the circumstances, for example that his fiance wasn't actually assaulted, he also was not actually saving her. All the people where just adding that to the story by prejudice.
    I don't care much for non-reflected prejudice and see it as a failure in others, as I do in myself.
    Getting insulted by someone who differs in that is not actually much of an insult to me either. So do you want to glue that story together the way you have learned and call me names because strangely enough your ego is under attack and differing opinions on an article are offensive, or do you actually want to talk? Your choice, but from what I have seen I am fine with either and not pressed to adapt my stance.
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    Let's put a spin on this story: "Father puts entire family at risk by arguing with four dangerous guys."

    Yeah. He was having a phonecall with one of the guys who broke into his home. He got into an argument with the four guys. I'm sorry but all of this screams "suspicious".

    You are admiring him as this family guy hero that saved his family when in fact he is the one that put his entire family at risk in the first place, boy what a responsible father! It's like Oister said, it's not like he got mugged, he received a DEATH THREAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orpheus View Post
    Let's put a spin on this story: "Father puts entire family at risk by arguing with four dangerous guys."

    Yeah. He was having a phonecall with one of the guys who broke into his home. He got into an argument with the four guys. I'm sorry but all of this screams "suspicious".

    You are admiring him as this family guy hero that saved his family when in fact he is the one that put his entire family at risk in the first place, boy what a responsible father! It's like Oister said, it's not like he got mugged, he received a DEATH THREAT.
    It wasn't just a "DEATH THREAT", they physically attacked the guy and maybe his fiancée.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z0MBiE View Post
    It wasn't just a "DEATH THREAT", they physically attacked the guy and maybe his fiancée.
    I guess I wasn't clear. What I meant was this didn't come as a surprise. I'm willing to bet he didn't even tell his fiancée about the danger they were in.

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