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    I have heard that the Razer Black Widow is the most popular gaming keyboard, but I wanted something cheaper and I found this.

    http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-6G...nical+keyboard


    Is this a good one? ANyone here recommend it?

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    Yep, mechanical keyboards are great because they lower input lag. You'll want to figure out which cherries (switches) will be best for your typing style and style of play. For example, you have Red switches on that keyboard. I find red switches extremely light and that leads to accidental key presses. My preferred style is black cherries which are more weighty (which is the other option in that amazon product).

    Another thing to consider is that the keyboard you chose is extremely anti-ghost. Being anti-ghost is a good thing, but it can also lead to a practice called key blocking. Key blocking is when a manufacture intentionally blocks a key from being pressed if a couple adjoining keys are pressed. For example if you're playing a game where you need to press the QWE keys all at the same time than the E or Q key will most likely be blocked--READ: cancelled--and you'll be stuck with only the QW or WE keys. I don't know how bad the 6Gv2 is about this but it's something you should consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phanein View Post
    Yep, mechanical keyboards are great because they lower input lag. You'll want to figure out which cherries (switches) will be best for your typing style and style of play. For example, you have Red switches on that keyboard. I find red switches extremely light and that leads to accidental key presses. My preferred style is black cherries which are more weighty (which is the other option in that amazon product).

    Another thing to consider is that the keyboard you chose is extremely anti-ghost. Being anti-ghost is a good thing, but it can also lead to a practice called key blocking. Key blocking is when a manufacture intentionally blocks a key from being pressed if a couple adjoining keys are pressed. For example if you're playing a game where you need to press the QWE keys all at the same time than the E or Q key will most likely be blocked--READ: cancelled--and you'll be stuck with only the QW or WE keys. I don't know how bad the 6Gv2 is about this but it's something you should consider.
    Thanks for your insightful reply!

    Do you prefer this one then? http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-6G...nical+keyboard

    What key switches is this? Cherry black?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espada1 View Post
    Thanks for your insightful reply!

    Do you prefer this one then? http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-6G...nical+keyboard

    What key switches is this? Cherry black?
    The $85 is Red, the $79 is black. Yes, I greatly prefer the weight behind black switches, but what works for me doesn't mean it'll work for you. A lot of people prefer red switches because their lighter. Some strange folk prefer blue switches because auditory (click) feedback. Here is a list of switches http://www.keyboardco.com/blog/index...ical-switches/ that should help you figure out which type of switch you feel would fit you best.

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    I highly recommend you research different cherry types to accommodate to your own needs. Just know that depending on the cherry type, your keyboard experience is going to be vastly different compared to a standard membrane keyboard. With that out of the way, know that you can buy a sampler for mechanical keyboards as cheap as a few dollars. Basically, you will get a few keys on different switches to play with and make a decision as to what feels best. I still prefer membrane keyboards, but I may make the switch soon enough, as my G15 is wearing itself down.

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    No palmrest and no backlight would rule out that kb for me instantly.
    I can live happily without mechanical keys, but I wouldn't take them for free in that package.

    Of course the mechanical keyboard hype disagrees, but I don't see the advantage.

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    My friend has a Razer keyboard hooked to his rig.
    I don't see the justification of spending so much on a keyboard.

    I have a cheapo($30) E-Blue Combatant-X and have no issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    No palmrest and no backlight would rule out that kb for me instantly.
    I can live happily without mechanical keys, but I wouldn't take them for free in that package.

    Of course the mechanical keyboard hype disagrees, but I don't see the advantage.
    The advantages being the many selections of switch types to cater to individual needs. It also goes without saying that you get rid of the horrible mushiness and wobbliness of a standard membrane keyboard. It's also harder to get keys stuck as the action of key pressing is a lot smoother and linear. The problem for most people making the switch is that we are far too use to old school membrane keyboards that it makes it feel alien when using mechanical. The only advantage you get with other keyboard types is a larger variety of bodies and some being on the cheaper side in terms of price. I would have switched to mechanicals the moment they became popular on the gaming circuit, if not for the fact that I love my G15 and that I bought it when it came out, thus being a pretty expensive buy back in the day for a keyboard. That and as I already pointed out, I'd need to get use to the feel of a mechanical with time, completely going away from what I considered the norm the past few decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    No palmrest and no backlight would rule out that kb for me instantly.
    I can live happily without mechanical keys, but I wouldn't take them for free in that package.

    Of course the mechanical keyboard hype disagrees, but I don't see the advantage.
    Depends on your needs. I used one because I used to PvP very competitively and those keys hitting faster was a slight advantage over a regular keyboard. I got rid of it now since I don't really play online anymore.

    I also used to wake up my roommate all the time with the intense key punching

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarance View Post
    I also used to wake up my roommate all the time with the intense key punching
    ^This. I've pounded keyboards into submission during late-night MUD gaming, and my girlfriend would be like STOP TYPING SO LOUD, GO TO BED. A mechanical keyboard fixed that. Also dumping the gf helped some.

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    I used to have a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate, and now own a Steelseries Apex. The latter isn't mechanical, and honestly, I prefer it.

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    http://www.corsair.com/us/k70/

    I have this in cherry blue keys. Best keyboard I think I've ever used.

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    I have a Black Widow Ultimate.

    It's a nice keyboard.

    Terrible value for money, and if you're looking for value there are significantly better keyboards out there.


    However, if you like the look, and enjoy using it, it's a very nice keyboard.
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    It just seems to me that it's different for the sake of it. I want my keyboard to have proper ergonomics. Actually that includes springs. Of course a 20$ keyboard isn't going to deliver that, but a 400$ keyboard built around tech from the 90s isn't either (just looking at those keys makes my fingers hurt, lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cingal View Post
    I have a Black Widow Ultimate.

    It's a nice keyboard.

    Terrible value for money, and if you're looking for value there are significantly better keyboards out there.


    However, if you like the look, and enjoy using it, it's a very nice keyboard.
    Well yeah, you're paying a bit extra for the name. Just as you would when buying an Alienware PC or buying a plain white shirt that has someones designer name on the tag. It's no secret that you'll dish out more money for a Razer, just as you would with a Logitech, such as my G15.

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    The corsair raptor k30/series is great and affordable. Back lit and no ghosting as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    It just seems to me that it's different for the sake of it. I want my keyboard to have proper ergonomics. Actually that includes springs. Of course a 20$ keyboard isn't going to deliver that, but a 400$ keyboard built around tech from the 90s isn't either (just looking at those keys makes my fingers hurt, lol).
    $400 keyboard? So far, I've posted the most expensive one (for its time) in this thread and it was $150. By the way, you talk about the keys somehow making your fingers hurt, but for most cherry types, a traditional keyboard takes more force to engage. With that out of the way, if you're not running a mechanical keyboard, you're most likely using a key system much like this...



    As opposed to...









    There are other mechanical cherry types, but these are the most common. It should be clear that the last 4 have a massive advantage over the first.

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    got one of these babies ... because when it comes to keyboard and mouse ... logitech is the best for me <3 but for gaming pad i use ... Razer Nostromo perfect for FPS games because of really nice reaction time on jumping and etc ...



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    Well, my keyboard does not require me to press the key through to the bottom to register the key.
    From an engineering standpoint I would be very curious as to what the advantage of using a metal spring over a plastic one is. I am not sarcastic in that. If you really wanted to you could make a plastic keyboard just as noisy as a mechanical on, I bet. It's just there is no reason to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Well, my keyboard does not require me to press the key through to the bottom to register the key.
    From an engineering standpoint I would be very curious as to what the advantage of using a metal spring over a plastic one is. I am not sarcastic in that. If you really wanted to you could make a plastic keyboard just as noisy as a mechanical on, I bet. It's just there is no reason to.
    Depends on the switches.

    Most have two stages. A light tap will trigger it, however, you can bottom it out too. There's basically some buffer zone to it.

    I'd really advise you to try one before being so quick to judge. I didn't think there was much different myself.

    Then I got one, and well, honestly, I can't see myself buying another rubber dome.

    It just feels significantly different, more comfortable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jin-Roh View Post
    Well yeah, you're paying a bit extra for the name. Just as you would when buying an Alienware PC or buying a plain white shirt that has someones designer name on the tag. It's no secret that you'll dish out more money for a Razer, just as you would with a Logitech, such as my G15.
    Well, yeah. I do like the look of the thing though, I do have to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Well, my keyboard does not require me to press the key through to the bottom to register the key.
    From an engineering standpoint I would be very curious as to what the advantage of using a metal spring over a plastic one is. I am not sarcastic in that. If you really wanted to you could make a plastic keyboard just as noisy as a mechanical on, I bet. It's just there is no reason to.
    It has nothing to do with a metal spring compared to a plastic membrane. Or well, it does in the fact that membranes sometimes stick, but that's not the reason why you would switch. With that out of the way, you don't need to fully press in a mechanical for it to register, just as a traditional keyboard tends to send an electrical signal without fully touching the circuit. The main thing is that mechanical keyboards press in a linear fashion. Unlike a traditional keyboard, where the keys go all over the place. Mine currently wobble as if I was playing with a controllers joypad. The best part of mechanical keyboards being the variety of cherry types. The four main being two with feedback and two with a straight push. Some have different resistances to pushing in, some are quieter, while others are easier to double tab, etc etc etc. You won't fully grasp this until you try them out yourself.

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    Well, I duno. I grew up with mechanical keyboards and a m8 has one that feels pretty close to how those did back in the day. I don't know which switches he has in his (I think it's a DasKeyboard, in that case it must be brown ones), but I think it's brown or black ones.
    The best distance when the key triggers is a thing that really depends on each persons taste individually, I suppose, but I was just not digging it, because it was close to two times as long as it is on my current keyboard.

    I am also very partial to Logitech peripherals, their very lowest tiers aren't anything special, but aside from that their devices never let me down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Well, I duno. I grew up with mechanical keyboards and a m8 has one that feels pretty close to how those did back in the day. I don't know which switches he has in his, but I think it's brown or black ones.
    The best distance when the key triggers is a thing that really depends on each persons taste individually, I suppose, but I was just not digging it, because it was close to two times as long as it is on my current keyboard.

    I am also very partial to Logitech peripherals, their very lowest tiers aren't anything special, but aside from that their devices never let me down.
    Try out reds if you want a fast and easy key press. But yes, it really does depend on taste.

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