Missouri gun murders 'rose after law repeal'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z0MBiE View Post
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ocon/guns.html



    And stricter gun control wouldn't solve this? What am I missing here?



    again... it sounds to me like they're just letting any old tom, dick and harry sell guns to anyone. Criminals are getting guns because the US aren't keeping a strict enough watch on who they are sold to and who they are sold by. Maybe they just don't care. Either way, stricter gun control and criminals are getting less guns, simple as that.
    Good job, you just listed two things that are completely illegal. Hell, the second bit even notes that's illegal. But to be clear, they both are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin-Roh View Post
    Good job, you just listed two things that are completely illegal. Hell, the second bit even notes that's illegal. But to be clear, they both are.
    There's a big difference between making laws and enforcing laws. The US seem incapable of the latter in this case.

    What's wrong with limiting it to one gun per household? That'd stop people buying an extra one for their friends. But oh nooo, that's far too complicated. Better just ignore the problem. The law is there, that'll stop them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z0MBiE View Post
    There's a big difference between making laws and enforcing laws. The US seem incapable of the latter in this case.
    Congratulations, you finally understand something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin-Roh View Post
    Congratulations, you finally understand something.
    They seem incapable because of the lack of trying, not because the laws don't work.


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    Three states (California, Maryland and New Jersey) and the District of Columbia have laws limiting handgun purchases or sales to one per month.
    Who even needs more than one gun per month. They're giving these weapons out like candy over there and you're trying to tell me this isn't a problem?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Z0MBiE View Post
    Who even needs more than one gun per month. They're giving these weapons out like candy over there and you're trying to tell me this isn't a problem?
    Now you're going into questioning why people should be able to buy more than one of something per month? Cars kill more people than guns. Hell, lung cancer does as well. Where are the monthly restrictions for cars and cigarettes? Unless you go after the things that take more lives first, I can't take you or anyone else seriously enough. You don't give a shit about saving lives if you're going after something on the bottom of the barrel that takes them.

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    The whole idea of strict gun control is silly. It assumes criminals are going to follow laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loric View Post
    The whole idea of strict gun control is silly. It assumes criminals are going to follow laws.
    Then what's the point of having laws? Criminals are just gonna break them anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin-Roh View Post
    Now you're going into questioning why people should be able to buy more than one of something per month? Cars kill more people than guns. Hell, lung cancer does as well. Where are the monthly restrictions for cars and cigarettes? Unless you go after the things that take more lives first, I can't take you or anyone else seriously enough. You don't give a shit about saving lives if you're going after something on the bottom of the barrel that takes them.
    Please come back when people start murdering others with cars and cigarettes more often than they do with guns.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loric View Post
    The whole idea of strict gun control is silly. It assumes criminals are going to follow laws.
    The law isn't there to make criminals magically extinct.

    The law is necessary to define what actually is criminal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Z0MBiE View Post
    The US seem incapable of the latter in this case.
    Unwilling.

    It's sad that anyone can get riled up about the threat loosing his gun(s), but isn't bothered at least ten times as much about the STASI methods the US gov employs against him, or that they are running massive bombing campaigns against civilians abroad, based on profiling mixed with statistical noise.

    Actually, I must admit, that private gun-ownership and open/concealed carry fits quite neatly into the picture. It's so pointless and insanely unethical, how can they not love it to death?
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    Stay frosty.

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