Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 71

Thread: Can Pretty Models Save WoW?

  1. #26
    Rock Man Reputation: 32

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    420
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by asdf55 View Post
    Not sure why WoW needs to be saved. Hell, I'm not sure why people are demanding they change the combat to some action style gameplay when every action style game does substantially worse than WoW and tons of players return to WoW after getting bored. That's why GW2 pretty much fell off the planet after all the hype while people still talk about WoW.
    wow, someone who gets it. I'd rather have a standard MMO combat system done very well (WoW, Archeage) than a shitty action combat system with long stupid animations that interrupt your movement and just make fighting long and awkward (Tera and its ilk)

  2. #27
    Ape for Diddy Reputation: 10

    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    252
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Also, remember the last time a good game tried to revamp its systems to be more "modern"? Think back to Star Wars Galaxies and the NGE. A giant ridiculous disaster that destroyed the game. It's like people forgot about that. Changing the entire game fundamentally serves no purpose other than to alienate your entire playerbase in a vain attempt to please the vocal minority who scream how outdated the game is.

  3. #28
    HopeDagger's Henchman Reputation: 204
    FarmerM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    1,263
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    I think only one person said that the game should have action combat.
    When I speak of modernizing I mean something a little less drastic.
    Like bringing WoW's controls/combat up to par with other games that use the tab target system.

    ArcheAge for example is based on the same system WoW uses but it's evolved for about 10 years, which in the tech world is a veeery long time.

  4. #29
    Ape for Diddy Reputation: 10

    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    252
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    I'm not sure what modernization the combat system needs. WoW's combat system has largely been lauded as one of the tightest, most fluid systems out there. People feel in control of their character. Compare that to similar but flashier systems of combat like SWTOR where players complain about being locked in animations and not being in control of their character. Hell, I'm playing ESO now and the combat there is janky as hell compared to WoW's.

  5. #30
    Forum PvPer Reputation: 610

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    11,357
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by King_Grunt View Post
    Game is still the best MMO out there so no it doesn't need any kind of saving. I have a great way to really enjoy WoW, I play it for 6-7 months and then take a brake for 3-4 months and I repeat that process xD I always have fun in game, but as with any game you just get tired of it so the brake is necessary, but the feeling when I come back to it is always great
    best mmo is highly subjective, lol. it wasn't even the best mmo when it first came out, it was just very polished and did things right.
    but, it's time has long since passed.

  6. #31
    Cloud's Hair Spray Reputation: 10

    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    69
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post
    best mmo is highly subjective, lol. it wasn't even the best mmo when it first came out, it was just very polished and did things right.
    but, it's time has long since passed.
    Imho, WoW won't die tomorrow, or in the next 5 or so years for that matter. I'm no fanboi (I've played it on a off for 7 years, finally quit the game because I did get tired of it).

    It is ONE of the best P2P MMORPGs you cannot deny that. Denying that would be foolish. I'm not saying it is THE best, but one of them.

    It has surpassed all of the "WoWkillers" without taking much of a hit subscriber wise. They are losing speed I'll give you that, but they still have enough momentum to continue on. And I'm pretty sure they are still making more than enough money to covers their expenses.

    I would even bet on the fact that they are probably making more money than what they are spending and that the game is in NET PROFIT.

    Eve Online is also very good but it serves a different playerbase, same as DarkFall.

    Wildstar and TESO are the next "WoWkillers" and I highly doubt they will make much of a dent in their numbers.

    I don't think it has anything to do with the games themselves. I think it has more to do with games like DAoC / WoW / EQ (in the prime days) felt so polished and well thought out (to some extent) that paying for any MMORPG that came out as P2P (Looking at you TERA / SWTOR / LOTRO / AION / etc) without the same amount of commitment and polish was wrong. Players felt cheated to pay monthly for some "lesser game that isn't X" and would much rather continue to play X game even with all it's flaws.

    The market has evolved, people play F2P games now. P2P is a thing of the past. And once Eve and WoW either go F2P or close down, P2P games will no longer exist, and no game company will make one.

    My 20 dollars :P

  7. #32
    OnRPG Elite Member! Reputation: 422
    poeticas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    12,111
    Rep Power
    22

    Default

    i am thinking of going back for a month since i noticed that my old guild has been active lately ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nashkel View Post

    The market has evolved, people play F2P games now. P2P is a thing of the past. And once Eve and WoW either go F2P or close down, P2P games will no longer exist, and no game company will make one.

    My 20 dollars :P
    yet Final Fantasy ... from a failure to a success and the player base is growing daily.

    Yep P2P is definitely dead. Good Joke.
    Last edited by poeticas; 04-18-2014 at 06:12 PM.
    Some Stories Are Just Way Better In My Head!

  8. #33
    Samus' Girdle Reputation: 10
    Zarbyte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    31
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    The title of this thread made me laugh. :P

  9. #34
    Roxane's Roadkill Reputation: 87
    DarkAztaroth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    3,586
    Rep Power
    12

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nashkel View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with the games themselves. I think it has more to do with games like DAoC / WoW / EQ (in the prime days) felt so polished and well thought out (to some extent) that paying for any MMORPG that came out as P2P (Looking at you TERA / SWTOR / LOTRO / AION / etc) without the same amount of commitment and polish was wrong. Players felt cheated to pay monthly for some "lesser game that isn't X" and would much rather continue to play X game even with all it's flaws.
    I have to admit I have trouble getting onto another MMO than WoW, every time I try another I find the quality to be lower, for example, aion, the animations are choppy, the cast bar disappears midway during my casts, the interface is not customisable, I can't even make the chat window less transparent, the font for the text is ugly, the game does not feel as fluid as wow...

    The games are starting to catch up a bit though, FFXIV is still not as fluid but feels alright, Tera feels pretty good, maybe a bit weird when you're a caster, GW2 was well built, but the kind of content simply does not appeal to me.

    Though it's important to note, as a wow player, I don't see how they could improve the ''gameplay'' it probably has the best gameplay out of all the mmos I played (I'm not a fan of ''action'' mmos so far except MH online), they're currently working on reducing the button bloat a bit, which could also help.
    The models are not the most important thing either to me, what will decide if I play this expack or not is the content, the content is what people want.
    Last edited by DarkAztaroth; 04-19-2014 at 02:06 PM.

  10. #35
    Cloud's Hair Spray Reputation: 10

    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    69
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by poeticas View Post
    i am thinking of going back for a month since i noticed that my old guild has been active lately ...



    yet Final Fantasy ... from a failure to a success and the player base is growing daily.

    Yep P2P is definitely dead. Good Joke.
    Final Fantasy serves a niche market though.

    I've played it and didn't really like it, not saying the game is bad, I didn't like it !

    It is P2P worthy, i'll give you that.

    I personnaly wouldn't mind getting a sub if some good MMORPG came out, but as far as I'm concerned I'd rather play single player games or lan RPGs (Borderlands and the gang). So yeah it might be a joke but you just have to look and the people complaining that such and such game is not F2P because as a P2P it is garbage, and then they complain that it's too P2W.

  11. #36
    OnRPG Elite Member! Reputation: 422
    poeticas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    12,111
    Rep Power
    22

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nashkel View Post
    Final Fantasy serves a niche market though.

    I've played it and didn't really like it, not saying the game is bad, I didn't like it !

    It is P2P worthy, i'll give you that.

    I personnaly wouldn't mind getting a sub if some good MMORPG came out, but as far as I'm concerned I'd rather play single player games or lan RPGs (Borderlands and the gang). So yeah it might be a joke but you just have to look and the people complaining that such and such game is not F2P because as a P2P it is garbage, and then they complain that it's too P2W.
    the problem is today ... that no one wants to pay for anything ... they want everything free of charge all the time ... and i think we got here a lot of people who used to pay for lineage 2 or WoW when it all started we did not care that much for payment as long as it was enjoyable and you know what i still don't if i only need to pay like 12euro or so for a game that i want to ... i say why not i work more than enough.
    Some Stories Are Just Way Better In My Head!

  12. #37
    Cloud's Hair Spray Reputation: 10

    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    69
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    I don't mind paying for a game subscription. As far as I'm concerned, recent P2P games that got released are subpar to WoW / Eve / FF and the likes, and that's the reason why I won't pay for a sub. But then I don't complain that I don't have an MMO to play.

  13. #38
    Shadowsworn's Sandwich Reputation: 36
    supe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    ░░░░░░░░░░░ SexAppeal: Over 9000
    Posts
    1,820
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nashkel View Post
    Final Fantasy serves a niche market though.

    I've played it and didn't really like it, not saying the game is bad, I didn't like it !

    It is P2P worthy, i'll give you that.

    I personnaly wouldn't mind getting a sub if some good MMORPG came out, but as far as I'm concerned I'd rather play single player games or lan RPGs (Borderlands and the gang). So yeah it might be a joke but you just have to look and the people complaining that such and such game is not F2P because as a P2P it is garbage, and then they complain that it's too P2W.
    just because you don't like it, it doesn't make it a "niche" . Get off your high horse dip shit.

  14. #39
    ChimaeraOne's Cookie Reputation: 52
    Heartyace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    1,343
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by supe View Post
    just because you don't like it, it doesn't make it a "niche" . Get off your high horse dip shit.
    I agree, what "niche" are they holding? The Final fantasy fans? People willing to pay? People that enjoy a well made MMO?

    I'm going to tell you now, I straight up didn't enjoy that game. But it's definitely well made.
    Quote Originally Posted by Your average commentor
    If she has anime flu, she will die.
    Wakfu: Roxie Hubrecut

  15. #40
    Manic's Maniacal Machine Reputation: 102
    DarkLight's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    1,917
    Rep Power
    13

    Default

    Dressing up a old bag with more rags just isn't dressed up enough, its far to simple and not much is different or changed to even be noticed, its still remains a cartoon mmo. WOW!! Now with level 100! and ability to reach level 90 in a instant! boring ideas that don't help or attract new game play just make the game far too simple. Wildstar is the new cartoon mmo.

  16. #41
    Shadowsworn's Sandwich Reputation: 36
    supe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    ░░░░░░░░░░░ SexAppeal: Over 9000
    Posts
    1,820
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLight View Post
    Dressing up a old bag with more rags just isn't dressed up enough, its far to simple and not much is different or changed to even be noticed, its still remains a cartoon mmo. WOW!! Now with level 100! and ability to reach level 90 in a instant! boring ideas that don't help or attract new game play just make the game far too simple. Wildstar is the new cartoon mmo.
    "Cartoon" graphics age better than "realistic" graphics.

  17. #42
    ChimaeraOne's Cookie Reputation: 52
    Heartyace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    1,343
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by supe View Post
    "Cartoon" graphics age better than "realistic" graphics.
    Innovative art age > All
    Quote Originally Posted by Your average commentor
    If she has anime flu, she will die.
    Wakfu: Roxie Hubrecut

  18. #43
    OnRPG Elite Member! Reputation: 422
    poeticas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    12,111
    Rep Power
    22

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLight View Post
    Dressing up a old bag with more rags just isn't dressed up enough, its far to simple and not much is different or changed to even be noticed, its still remains a cartoon mmo. WOW!! Now with level 100! and ability to reach level 90 in a instant! boring ideas that don't help or attract new game play just make the game far too simple. Wildstar is the new cartoon mmo.
    they dont need to attract shit ... they got so many players still that pay and i bet so many players return and go and still bring friggin money and not to speak all the idiots that pay for pets and etc from shop ye WoW will not die in the next years ...

    P.S: I liked wildstar but i don't think it will last.
    Some Stories Are Just Way Better In My Head!

  19. #44
    Cloud's Hair Spray Reputation: 10

    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    69
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by supe View Post
    just because you don't like it, it doesn't make it a "niche" . Get off your high horse dip shit.
    U mad bro ?

    Everyone has one .... opinion that is ....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niche_market

    "A niche market[1] is the subset of the market on which a specific product is focusing."

    And I never said I didn't like it because it was a "niche market" game.

  20. #45
    Holy Hand Grenade Reputation: 22
    Duero's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    769
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    I canīt say much about this game beucse I hated it ever sense it came out played 1month and hated it ever sense sure I tested it again with this free to level 20 but I still hate it. To be honest WoW needs to die not becuse that I hate the game more if it need to die and Blizzard need to make a new mmo ah more up to date with action combat sustem instead of the boring combat system WoW has to be honest GW2, Tera, Vindictus and now ESO has so much more fun combat system than the old point klick and go take a coffee break combat system has.

  21. #46
    Rock Man Reputation: 32

    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    420
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    When I see people saying that Tera had better combat than WoW it makes me facepalm so hard pls stop

  22. #47
    SuperKenshin's Servent Reputation: 53
    tihi85's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Serbia
    Posts
    1,072
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    I still prefer WoW COmbat more then any other even though I am not playing it anymore. Tab target combat is more reliable, less lag dependent also less exploitable. Not to mention healing one person in the raid of 24 players is a nightmare in action combat.

    RIP Xfire


  23. #48
    Shadowsworn's Sandwich Reputation: 36
    supe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    ░░░░░░░░░░░ SexAppeal: Over 9000
    Posts
    1,820
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nashkel View Post
    U mad bro ?

    Everyone has one .... opinion that is ....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niche_market

    "A niche market[1] is the subset of the market on which a specific product is focusing."

    And I never said I didn't like it because it was a "niche market" game.
    Then everything is a niche market. Go get some education. You need it.

  24. #49
    `Doll's Dishwasher Reputation: 12
    Felore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    1,470
    Rep Power
    10

    Default

    Tera dose however keep you involved in combat, in wow you press 1 button and go sleep.
    Nano.. Nano.. Nano..
    "NO MATTER WHERE YOU PLAN TO SPEND ETERNITY"


  25. #50
    HopeDagger's Henchman Reputation: 204
    FarmerM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    1,263
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    I thought a niche was a very specific often unique, sometimes unpopular subset to a market.

    Like Spiderbabe filled the niche subset for superheros in the adult film market.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •