So much hate from angry, stupid people. It's a great world.
So much hate from angry, stupid people. It's a great world.
I've never heard a man say we're pregnant before. The only context I can remember it in is hearing an excited mother to be say it while the dude stood there looking as dumb and lost as ever, but with a smile.
Even if I heard a dude friend say that I wouldn't be offended. I would laugh in his face for saying it stupidly, but I don't think it takes away the significance of pregnancy. The guy is more or less completely useless to the baby until it's born...it's important to make him feel included too.. I mean it's half his fault.
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LOL theres a whole subreddit for tumblr junk like that. Believe me I'm all for empowering women, homosexuals and whoever else is being oppressed....but lord is that stuff ever funny. End fathers day. Lmao. Most people I know would love to have a father to celebrate.
I am not offended by people having kids. I just don't like when people say "we're pregnant" because that's not physically possible. It has nothing to do with my like or dislike of the pregnancy or the people involved with the pregnancy.
i don't like when people say cd instead of album or dvd instead of movie. like you wouldn't say 50 shades of grey is yr favorite papers. it's yr favorite book, yo.
But like said earlier, being offended because you are taking something literally that is not meant to be taken literally is more than a little silly.
That is like being offended if you hear someone call a loved one 'honey' because they are not created by bees as a food source.
It is like being offended that I would say "no, I'm broke" after you ask me for money when it is obvious that I am in good health.
It is like being offended when the TV announcer says that an athlete is "on fire right now" when it is obvious that there are no flames coming from his or her body.
"We are pregnant" quite simply means "We are having a baby"
You know that when you hear it, and that is what is intended when it is said, therefor it is utterly ridiculous to fabricate some offense from it.
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As for pregnancy... I don't find it an offensive word. If someone with normally good grammar called himself pregnant I would tease him for his mistake. If he said "we're expecting" then I get it. But if a stranger said that he and his wife are pregnant I wouldn't go and make a sarcastic commercial about grammar. It was humorous up until the part where the stage curtains open (edit: because the actor was mocking but then it suddenly got serious and everyone started taking themselves seriously while the music stayed jolly which made everything awkward and I don't find parodies of social rights movements funny).
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As often as I disagree with most 3rd wave feminists when it comes to how they use, analyze and decode language and social constructs, I can actually understand this point. Not because I think anyone ought to be offended by it, but because it sounds stupid.
You're a guy. You don't get pregnant. If your wife got syphilis, you wouldn't go "We've got syphilis!".
A certain level of adherence to principles of linguistic clarity can do a lot for humanity. After all, as it is, most people shit all over the art of communication on a daily basis, and I'm pretty sure that's the root of a lot of the world's conflicts.
And seriously, if a guy needs to say stupid shit like "We're pregnant" to feel included in the conception of a child, he doesn't need couples counseling - he needs regular counseling for treating his severe lack of confidence. Alternatively, he needs to find a new wife that doesn't try to exclude him from the joy of having a child by making it so that the only way he does feel included is by citing stupid catch-phrases from cheesy self-help programs.
If somebody feels offended by what I just wrote, they too can go to counseling and consume a box of tissues crying about it. I don't care either way.
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Wait, I skimmed through this briefly, so forgive me if I miss the point entirely, but you're saying you dislike when guys announce "their" pregnancy?
But the reality is, I'd say the same, because without me she wouldn't (hopefully anyways) be pregnant. It's my child too, I am allowed to announce the pregnancy, saying "shes pregnant with my kid" sounds a bit more like me, but that's still in the same ballpark. I think what Oister said is spot on, even if the retort is commonly heard. It takes two to love. It was a creation that absolutely required both parties to be willing and capable, and that means it's a shared thing. Just because she endures the majority of the physical and mental pain, doesn't mean it's more her child than mine, because as the man, we'd have to take responsibility, make a lot of sacrifices, and tend to her every day for 9 months. It's not as taxing, but it can be stressful.
That. Isn't. Even. The. Topic.
It's simply that he can't be pregnant, not that he isn't involved in the pregnancy.
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But he doesn't say it because he IS pregnant, hes saying it because hes taking ownership. This IS the topic.
Hes allowed to say what he wants about his child, they're pregnant. Sure he may not be ACTUALLY pregnant, but hes connected on a level that he feels he can say that he is experiencing "pregnancy" not the actual term but the entire process, taking care of the women while she needs him the most, if someone feels entitled to say "we're pregnant" let them. I don't even understand how it can be brought up as an argument. It seems so insignificant, and even more so that it doesn't even directly involve you.
Let me ask you a question. Would you feel it's fair for a woman to say "we're serving," because her husband is serving in the military? Both of them are affected by his departure. Him obviously more so, but they are still both affected by his service. Is that an acceptable comment to you?
It's a bit silly to say, as it sounds like the male is pregnant, but if the male of the relationship feels that way, let him say it. Just like people say "WE didn't win the football game." When they don't even play, they just watch.
I got that.I didn't disagree with it being kind of stupid to say, I even stated I wouldn't say it like that.
Ok.It's just.. I don't see the issue. I feel like I didn't give you an adequate enough response, let me edit:
It's a bit silly to say, as it sounds like the male is pregnant, but if the male of the relationship feels that way,
No.let him say it. Just like people say "WE didn't win the football game." When they don't even play, they just watch.
Now that is apples and oranges.
You can't wholeheartedly try to persuade me to agree with you and then just say "it's not important." If it was important enough to contribute discussion on why you feel differently than me, then there is some significance to you.This.
I think we can both agree that the issue isn't of massive, Godly importance, but I don't think threads should be limited to only "massive, Godly importance" topics. There are plenty of lackluster threads on this forum, not conducted by me.
It has enough significance to discuss, debate, and think about. We're on page 5, after all.
what's to debate tho? dudes don't get pregnant. so if a bro says he's pregnant, he's wrong. that's it, right?
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Serious though, it doesn't bother me as much as sports fans saying "we won!".
This isn't even an argument, this is him or her saying "No. You're wrong, I'm right." When there is nothing to declare wrong or right, as it's been made clear that we're on the same page. I was merely saying let people live their life, focus on you.
See, I agree that it's silly sounding, but it says something about a person to throw a fit, because someone else dared to say something silly. If you are offened by the fact that another person says something silly in your presence, isn't that more obnoxious compared to the "crime of inelegant wording".
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Were on page 5! Of people saying I have an opinion, but the subject doesn't matter.
I could rant about how stupid this is and really want to but I am trying to spend my time more constructively.
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