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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerM View Post
    I think you misunderstood.
    The games look great but are downgraded so they aren't better than the console version. Even when WatchDogs and the Division were supposedly developed as PC being the primary platform.
    Not seeing a problem if everyone is getting the same game.
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    They release promotional material and gameplay footage showing the original, better graphics. They then reduce said graphics way into the pre-order phase.

    For Watch Dogs they didn't even say it had been done until players called them on it. Only then did they say it was due to "stability issues." Which was proven to be a load of crap after a player found and activated the improved settings still in the code.

    So, the problem is they're showing and selling it as superior but pulling it out so that in the end consoles don't look weaker.

    So in addition to pulling what some consider to be a major scam, they're shooting PC gaming in the knee by not allowing it to show it's strengths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerM View Post
    They release promotional material and gameplay footage showing the original, better graphics. They then reduce said graphics way into the pre-order phase.

    For Watch Dogs they didn't even say it had been done until players called them on it. Only then did they say it was due to "stability issues." Which was proven to be a load of crap after a player found and activated the improved settings still in the code.

    So, the problem is they're showing and selling it as superior but pulling it out so that in the end consoles don't look weaker.

    So in addition to pulling what some consider to be a major scam, they're shooting PC gaming in the knee by not allowing it to show it's strengths.
    That's not a big deal. I'd rather them fix uplay. Day one people were having problems and couldn't even play the game because of it (not to mention just other crappy stuff about it like not being able to change your id). That's a lot more important than them "hiding" super graphics for PC users.
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    No one's arguing that uplay doesn't suck. It's just not the topic were discussing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerM View Post
    No one's arguing that uplay doesn't suck. It's just not the topic were discussing.
    Right, you're talking about how PC users get shafted when it comes to graphics on certain games, which isn't something new. But then again, if your point is that PC users are getting shafted by not being able to play games at their full potential, isn't it a benefit to just get a console then since most games are being tailor made to suit them and not PC? Especially when you can get a console a lot cheaper than a solid gaming PC actually capable of playing games at their maximum potential, which isn't even taken in to consideration a lot of times?

    Where is the real benefit of playing on PC when consoles are become more capable and developers are not aiming any higher than them?
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    That's the point. Despite PCs having more potential. Developers are catering to consoles and gimping their products. Which results in the question- "Where is the real benefit of playing on PC?"

    It's a question that they literally force you to ask. It's a question that makes a lot of money.

    The opposite could easily be true, big developers could focus primarily on PC and tone down graphics so they would function on consoles.
    It would greatly speed up the evolution of PC gaming. With increased focus things would be more powerful/more efficient. However then people would ask "Where is the real benefit of playing on Console?"

    And that's a question that would lose a ton of $$.

    It's not about what's best. It's not about what people want. It's about what makes more money. And that sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerM View Post
    That's the point. Despite PCs having more potential. Developers are catering to consoles and gimping their products. Which results in the question- "Where is the real benefit of playing on PC?"

    It's a question that they literally force you to ask. It's a question that makes a lot of money.

    The opposite could easily be true, big developers could focus primarily on PC and tone down graphics so they would function on consoles.
    It would greatly speed up the evolution of PC gaming. With increased focus things would be more powerful/more efficient. However then people would ask "Where is the real benefit of playing on Console?"

    And that's a question that would lose a ton of $$.

    It's not about what's best. It's not about what people want. It's about what makes more money. And that sucks.
    Most people don't care about having the top of the line graphics though. Only small portion of gamers care about that.

    *is playing Watch Dogs on PS3 as we speak*
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    ITT:
    People who actually believe that decisions on how games work aren't entirely and solely dependent on how much money they bring in through sales/time.

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    Where is the real benefit of playing on PC when consoles are become more capable and developers are not aiming any higher than them?
    Consoles are capable as in: A quater of the pixels at less than half the speed, which amounts to about a tenth of the performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    ITT:
    People who actually believe that decisions on how games work aren't entirely and solely dependent on how much money they bring in through sales/time.

    Consoles are capable as in: A quater of the pixels at less than half the speed, which amounts to about a tenth of the performance.
    Sure, okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashis View Post
    Sure, okay.
    Lol, we haven't even started to talk about anti-alising on consoles.

    See, there is the argument that some people just don't care. That's fine. There is no argument that consoles are in the PC world what a Fiat Punto is in the car world. They will get you there somehow. They do run games, somehow. Loads of people find them good enough.

    There is only one benefit and that's the price. You pay what you get and that is a unrecognizable gimped PC.
    Last edited by Ronin; 06-25-2014 at 04:52 PM.

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