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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxedoSam View Post
    Everyone can sacrifice an apple a day to make $10 to donate, unless you literally live on the streets.

    I am not forcing anyone to donate, but don't even bother posting your sad inexcusable excuses. You can afford $10 to donate. You just don't want to.
    No, but being jobless while trying to go to college and forcing yourself to take out loans that will eventually cause you to buckle under financial pressure is actually a thing. Don't assume you know I have money to spare, and stop with your passive aggressive behavior towards people that won't donate, they have their own issues, like I said, and some actually just simply can't afford to do it, myself included.

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    There are hundreds of ways to donate to these causes and there have been for years. If people wanted to they would have by now.

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    Yeah, I can afford to spend 10$ on this, just like any of the other causes such as the various cancers. So let me ask this then: why specifically this one? And if I should donate any expendable income I have to this one, should I do it for others? Shouldn't this rule apply to everyone then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxedoSam View Post
    Everyone can sacrifice an apple a day to make $10 to donate, unless you literally live on the streets.

    I am not forcing anyone to donate, but don't even bother posting your sad inexcusable excuses. You can afford $10 to donate. You just don't want to.
    I don't want to donate to a group that I don't know anything about, I'd rather donate my money to groups that I know do actual work.
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    Boy will our faces be red when we all get AIDs.
    Lets just hope it's from embarrassment and not minor cold.

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    Once an immunity is discovered to prevent HIV/AIDs, it will be readily distributed all over the world. This is security for you, your children, their children, etc. An immunity to HIV/AIDs is a HUGE deal. It's not something that needs continued donations after it is distributed, and it would affect the entire world in a multitude of ways. Less money and tax dollars would be used for infected patients, because there will be far less so, which would allow that money to assist people in other significant means such as the starving, homeless, etc. Therefore, the magnitude of such a vaccine is incomparable and much greater than feeding a tribe of people for a week.

    You can sacrifice literally just one meal a day for ten days and you will still be perfectly fine, healthy, and it would be worth it. So yes, everyone can afford to donate $10 if you have a source of income. If you choose not to, that is a priority issue. Not a lack of funding issue.

    @Pok - Then do research on this, because this is far bigger than donating to kid's school supplies, clothing the homeless, or rescuing dogs, as I previously mentioned.

    @Kashis From what I've learned after researching their objectives, they've stated that their leads are a different approach that can't be thoroughly tested without donations. Perhaps they have a better marketing team than the usual scientists striving for cures and immunities, but I'd rather donate $10 to a supposedly "new" failed approach, unbeknownst to me, than to not donate at all.

    If you can fund other research, that's great too.

    @Zombie That's true, and here's one that may have potential.

    @ApocaRUFF I sincerely am grateful that you at least gave the thought a chance. If you reconsider, all you have to do is click "donate now" on the website here: http://www.immunityproject.org/

    @Snowbunzz What breakthroughs are those? Do you mind sharing the sources you fund?

    @Ronin Oh, sweetie, Wikipedia isn't going to save billions of lives.

    @Hian I already addressed most of your gripes. Furthermore, I do believe overpopulation is a social construct.

    Overpopulation has been a prediction for centuries. As time progresses, so does technology, efficiency, education, etc. I doubt overpopulation will ever be the real reason people starve to death or resources become scarce. More like, lack of income and access. And, as one resource is used up, a new source of energy is perfected and put into use. A lack of desire to use other means of organic energy does not equate to overpopulation. That's stubbornness and greed.

    If overpopulation ever becomes legitimate, it won't be for a very long time. And by that time, we'd likely be able to venture to other planets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxedoSam View Post
    @Snowbunzz What breakthroughs are those? Do you mind sharing the sources you fund?
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...-approach.html
    http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/b...r-201406177215

    Breakthrough might be a bit too... 'strong'. They're still significant steps forward though. As with all big steps, we probably need to wait 9-10 years before it's accessible and affordable. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnOwBunZz View Post
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...-approach.html
    http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/b...r-201406177215

    Breakthrough might be a bit too... 'strong'. They're still significant steps forward though. As with all big steps, we probably need to wait 9-10 years before it's accessible and affordable. :/
    Ooh, those are great articles. Thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maryxu View Post
    but not everyone want to donated, various person have different thoughts
    As I stated, I'm not forcing anyone to donate, but excuses aren't necessary. If someone is going to post a nonsensical excuse, I'm going to refute it.

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    Not seeing a really convincing enough arguement to donate to this so im going to pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashis View Post
    Not seeing a really convincing enough arguement to donate to this so im going to pass.
    Apparently nothing will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxedoSam View Post
    @Pok - Then do research on this, because this is far bigger than donating to kid's school supplies, clothing the homeless, or rescuing dogs, as I previously mentioned.
    I'm in medicine, I work with HIV positive patients quite often, I wasn't saying that the cause wasn't worthy, I was saying I'd decide which organization to donate to instead of taking the word of someone who is trying to guilt-trip people into donating making their chosen group seem more and more like a scam.

    It seems to me that you have went from being helpful by introducing this group to being a liability by the constant badgering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxedoSam View Post
    Apparently nothing will.
    From you? Not likely.

    I'll stick with what I already have been donating to, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pok View Post
    I'm in medicine, I work with HIV positive patients quite often, I wasn't saying that the cause wasn't worthy, I was saying I'd decide which organization to donate to instead of taking the word of someone who is trying to guilt-trip people into donating making their chosen group seem more and more like a scam.

    It seems to me that you have went from being helpful by introducing this group to being a liability by the constant badgering.
    I'm simply responding to nonsensical excuses. Nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kashis View Post
    From you? Not likely.

    I'll stick with what I already have been donating to, thanks.
    OooOooOoOoh, so much hates.

    Good job, you're not a complete douche!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxedoSam View Post
    I'm simply responding to nonsensical excuses. Nothing more.



    OooOooOoOoh, so much hates.

    Good job, you're not a complete douche!
    It's not even hate, you just really aren't the best person for this nor have you really said anything to convince people this would be a great idea.





    Call me what you like, you aren't going to gather people to any of your causes if you continue to be the way you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashis View Post
    It's not even hate, you just really aren't the best person for this nor have you really said anything to convince people this would be a great idea.





    Call me what you like, you aren't going to gather people to any of your causes if you continue to be the way you are.

    No need to be defensive. I'm just calling you what you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxedoSam View Post
    No need to be defensive. I'm just calling you what you are.
    I thought this was supposed to be about crowdfunding* and not your personal feelings about me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxedoSam View Post
    @Ronin Oh, sweetie, Wikipedia isn't going to save billions of lives.
    So isn't throwing money at irrelevant research, honey.

    Stay frosty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    So isn't throwing money at irrelevant research, honey.
    I don't think you know what irrelevant even means.

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    There is already a vaccination available...condoms .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreyTrey12 View Post
    There is already a vaccination available...condoms .
    Not all HIV/AIDs sources can be stopped with a condom, unfortunately. When I was a kid, my best friends mom got HIV (Don't think it ever went full-blown AIDs, but I can't remember) from getting a tattoo with a needle that was previously used on someone infected.

    The only real way to prevent AIDs is to use your brain, control your urges, and put personal hygiene before all else. Also, don't trust people when they say they're clean. If you think it has something you might catch, it probably does.
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    I recall a studying saying that a certain percentage of people are actually immune to it.

    We should harvest them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TreyTrey12 View Post
    I recall a studying saying that a certain percentage of people are actually immune to it.

    We should harvest them.
    That's what the "new" approach is that I linked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuxedoSam View Post
    I don't think you know what irrelevant even means.
    Do you now?
    The thing is, I already knew about the topic, before you posted about it. The reason is simple: There is some debate going on about it and I have not heard the research they actually plan on conducting being called anything, but meritless. The reason they won't find other funding is that experts all agree that what they are trying to do is just replicating established failures of the past. There is the off chance that they might find something that can be called progress. They won't cure anybody though. It's about half a scamand half incompetence, if you want to grade their effort.

    Anyways we need to act nao1!1!!!!
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    Stay frosty.

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