Nope. I am just tired of people wanting it both ways. I am tired the fake feminists wanting equality and special treatment at the same time. I am tired of all the stupid double standards.
Do you really think poor judgement when being drunk is exclusively a female thing?
Men wake up next to ugly women and with herpes all the time.
Both genders are making conscious decisions when they decide to drink.
If a male and female decide to murder a hobo together; they're both responsible regardless of which suggested it and if either or both were intoxicated.
I personally don't drink when I am in a bad mood because I have anger issues that could result in violence if I don't have control. If I lost it, I know it would be MY fault and I couldn't live with it.
If you don't think you can control yourself. Stop yourself. Think you'll try to drive if you are drunk? Don't drink. Think you'll hurt a loved one if you drink? Don't drink. Think you'll get it on with another person you may later regret? Don't drink.
Ultimately you can do whatever you want. However, know that freedom is not always mean without consequences and make your choices accordingly. Because they are yours. You have to live with them.
There is no magic wand or undo button.
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And I'm tired of anti-feminists who are gullible to feed into Republican propaganda to dismantle feminism and the bandwagoning drones who create videos of delusions.
I mean, both of you aren't even reading what I'm saying and then making up shit I never said or I already know, in fact, what everybody already knows.
Of course I know men can make poor judgments during intoxication. Of course men can be raped. Yadda yadda. You just want to see what you want to see, and no matter how fair or what I say, you're only going to see what you want.
I'll return later to debunk all of your delusions. I have a headache and I'm tired of just staring at text for hours trying to explain basic concepts to people who already have a predisposition they like to implement no matter how logical the opposition is.
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SORRY, I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU WORD FOR WORD. Heaven forbid context play a role in what I was referring to.
And if you still don't get it, babydoll, what I meant was: the only way your girlfriend/wife/frienefit can punish you with the government's laws, would be to file a charge to the police, or wherever is necessary.Moreover, let's remember, you are only LEGALLY punished if the person files charges against you.
Why is it every time I see a discussion on feminism it's always about how everyone should be equal, but women are treated way worse? It's not just here, I have feminist friends who post this stuff all the time and do the same exact thing. There are some serious issues against men as well and while yes, the point of Feminisim is to address both sides, there rarely ever seems to be a conversation that actually does that.
You want to sit here and talk about how you can't show your breasts in public (which you legally can btw) because of public stigma? How about we talk about how guys are often labeled as pedophiles anytime they are around young children or even young looking girls? Never mind that they might be bfs (in the case of a young looking girl who's actually the same/legal age), or parents or family, we are still pretty negative as a society when it comes to how we observe men around children/young ladies. I worked at the Boys and Girls club in my area when I was younger and I can't even begin to mention all the times I've gotten looks from people, even when I was wearing my CIT shirt and that shit still goes on today.
And yeah, I have seen some discussions on this at Reddit and on FB and in RL, but the majority of them, and especially coming from Feminists either male or female, are always about one side and that's what annoys me. And don't even get me started on the issues I have at the work place regarding manual labor.
People, especially women, constantly comment on how "chivalry is dead" and you know what? It should be. I'm so tired about hearing how nice a guy I am just because I open up a door for a woman that happens to be behind me. No, I don't do that because you are a woman, I do this because that's what you should do for someone who's walking behind you so they don't slam into the door or awkwardly fumble for it. No, I do not address a group of women standing by as "ladies" because I'm trying to be some "neckbeard, fedora wearing, auto friendzoning" guy who thinks doing so warrants sexual favors, but simply because at my job I'm busy as hell and it's a lot easier and quicker to acknowledge the same group of ladies I always see together due to friendships than using their individual names. No, I am not helping you refill your supplies or helping you move something because I want to sleep with you, I do it because most of the people at my job make a mess, do it slowly and end up in my way if I don't. Plus, it's just a nice thing to do for someone who's been working all day and is on the clock and being hassled about productivity.
This is just a small portion of the shit I deal with every day, because I just so happen to be a guy who isn't completely socially inept. But no, none of that will ever compare to what women go to because, guess what? They got it worse.
We all got our problems, no matter what your age, gender, race, religion, orientation is. I get that there are men that often observe women as a piece of meat without any intelligence or rights, believe it or not, most of us here probably do. We are just tired about hearing about it when we aren't even the ones that do and any time we look for some damn consideration to make it to the middle ground where we can at least both understand each other, all we hear is basically, "so what? Women for years___".
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oh, this shit again.
you're like a broken record.
holy shit, i ain't readin all this
I'm so glad I'm not oppressed by anyone daily. Except the government I guess. It must take a lot of effort to care about this stuff lol. I'm the worst kind of person because I'm well aware of these various atrocities but I can't bring myself to care :/
To the corrupt, justice looks like insanity.
- some anime, if anyone knows which one, pls pm, maybe?
What I am saying is, that someone calls someone insane, such as in this case, feminists are called crazy, it's possibly just the natural reaction to the disruption. Being labeled crazy by the popular opinion without context can be just as much an insult as it can also be an unintended compliment.
Thumbs up for anita sarkeesian edging companies to step it up and making their games less generic and boring.
Finally a chime on the drunk hookup talk:
Does anyone really believe the process is "up for debate"? Drunk sex getting outlaw status? That is something that people conjure up as an image in their head and say "that's sounding totally practical and could work?" Leaving along the poor folks who are never going to get laid again, getting drunk and hooking up kinda is a thing. People in the western cultural sphere have been using the drug called alcohol to get laid for so long, that they already mutated to deal better with the toxic effects...
Well let's get serious: Legally this is nonsense. Not because people don't run a higher risk when drunk, but because the risk is negligible compared to the millions of people who actually get to score every weekend. Some things will never be perfect. Justice by the law always has this flaw. In this case, you can't fix the problem without a paternal anti liberty state. Why? Because it's a disproportionate invasion into the lives of people. The gain does not out-weight that. Yes, freedom is more important than "catching them all". If you get raped and run into the problem of finding it hard to prove, that sucks. To be completely honest, the law isn't going to be able to protect you completely from that. It's probably harsh to realize that anyone lives with risks and since we are used to just ignoring the fact, we are not skilled in dealing with them. In this case, the default chasing of complete security is not the answer.
Also to give this a personal funny little story: I once met a girl and it was late and she was completely wasted and she invited me over. At her place we talked and we where on the bed and she was starting to loose her cloths, so I asked her, if she was ok with everything in the best way i could come up with. It made her feel guilty though, so she wasn't into it anymore. The whole thing for me ended up as some weird cuddly sleepover at a strangers place. That experience was kinda confusing to me, to the point that I am still shaking my head at it. One thing I am dead certain on and anyone who claims otherwise seriously needs to get a grip: It would have not been rape in my head, had anything happened. The law in my opinion should not call it that. I am all for practical views on things, but to me, that's a glove that won't ever fit.
Anyways, if you give woman the tool to premeditate getting raped, they will use that tool. It's a nightmare of an idea to be honest.
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