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    Quote Originally Posted by cell59 View Post
    I don't mind paying a small one time fee for AH but the fact that they will get offline labor points equivalent to that of free account online labor points is ridiculous. labor points are integral to the game and limiting it so much in free accounts is horrible. I hope there are ways around it.
    there are labor pots that you can purchase from players/cash shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post
    there are labor pots that you can purchase from players/cash shop.
    I saw that but it has a 12 hour cooldown if I remember correctly and those will cost a hefty amount since every f2p player will need to buy that pretty much.

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    Well at the currrent rate its 12g for a labor potion so basically 3 trade runs.

    They have been more genorous with the amount of gold received from them i only went across 2 maps and it netted me 5g+.

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    If the bot problem is that big, the $5 auction restriction will be useless if its to prevent bots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loksie View Post
    Well at the currrent rate its 12g for a labor potion so basically 3 trade runs.

    They have been more genorous with the amount of gold received from them i only went across 2 maps and it netted me 5g+.
    I am only lvl 13 so I have not experienced anything yet, BUT I expect the prices to skyrocket once OB starts and mass amounts of people start needing it. I mean in all honesty it could go either way (debilitate f2p players indefinitely or become fair)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyaw View Post
    If the bot problem is that big, the $5 auction restriction will be useless if its to prevent bots.
    They may say it is for bots but in all honesty they are clearly motivated by $$$ and I don't blame them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loksie View Post
    Well at the currrent rate its 12g for a labor potion so basically 3 trade runs.

    They have been more genorous with the amount of gold received from them i only went across 2 maps and it netted me 5g+.
    oh yeah, how is trion handling delphic coins?
    do you still get them via trade runs or do they use the shitty korean daily system?

    Quote Originally Posted by cell59 View Post
    They may say it is for bots but in all honesty they are clearly motivated by $$$ and I don't blame them.
    it probably will stop bots to an extent, but most serious botting companies will churn out the money.
    bots is a huge ****ing issue in the russian version, oversaturated market really breaks the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post
    oh yeah, how is trion handling delphic coins?
    do you still get them via trade runs or do they use the shitty korean daily system?
    From what I heard you get them via overseas trading runs AND dailies now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, because this bothers me slightly. I'd be much more glad if gilda stars (delphic coins) were only from trading.

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    Meh.
    I really have no faith that any developer will stay true to their original design plans when the think they can -appeal to a larger audience.-
    Sure, more people will join initially but games tend to lose their soul.
    They'll probably end up handing out Gildas like candy for farting in a hot tub.

    I really hope Gildas are not awarded from daily quests. If so the Trion version will be skipping the epic portion of the game where naval expeditions and warfare are essential.

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    Trion just publisher tho, unlike RIFT if im not wrong?
    rift is actually good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skarcrow View Post
    Trion just publisher tho, unlike RIFT if im not wrong?
    rift is actually good
    no rift was good... dont mix them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poeticas View Post
    no rift was good... dont mix them up.
    lol, rift, good?
    hah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post
    lol, rift, good?
    hah.
    it WAS good somewhere at launch is what i meant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grable View Post
    From what I heard you get them via overseas trading runs AND dailies now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, because this bothers me slightly. I'd be much more glad if gilda stars (delphic coins) were only from trading.
    Delphinic coins have been removed from the game entirely, only gilda stars remain and those are obtained from dailies or intercontinental trade. Things that used to cost delpin now cost gold on mirage isle. On alpha this is seen a pejoratively negative change.

    While the removal of delphinic and gilda from intercontinental isnt bad the fact that they made it so that gold can no longer be acquired through intercontinental trade has really effected big guild trade runs and pirates in general (mush less of them now) its harder to split gilda between guild members or big groups, and pirates have much less need for gilda or high end trading mats saw a stark decline of amount of pirates in general

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post
    lol, rift, good?
    hah.
    Just because you didn't enjoy it does not make it a bad game. It has the best Free to play model out there coming from a previously P2P Game. Yes it does have a generic style. but it also has amazing cust**** support along side updates frequently. what other game has that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kite View Post
    Delphinic coins have been removed from the game entirely, only gilda stars remain and those are obtained from dailies or intercontinental trade. Things that used to cost delpin now cost gold on mirage isle. On alpha this is seen a pejoratively negative change.

    While the removal of delphinic and gilda from intercontinental isnt bad the fact that they made it so that gold can no longer be acquired through intercontinental trade has really effected big guild trade runs and pirates in general (mush less of them now) its harder to split gilda between guild members or big groups, and pirates have much less need for gilda or high end trading mats saw a stark decline of amount of pirates in general

    I'm wondering if I'm just misunderstaning what you're saying, but you can still get gold from both inner-and-inter-continental trade. You can only get Gilda Stars from doing intercontinental (IE, cross-sea) trade. Same with the rarer resources used for some crafting.

    So, there are three traders you can give packs to now: Gilda Star Trader, Gold Trader, and Resource Trader. Gilda Star Traders (And maybe resource?), as far as I know, will only accept packs from an opposing continent (So a Gilda Trader on the East continent will only accept packs made in the West). Gold, as far as I can tell, doesn't matter where the pack came from.
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    Rift is a good game but the free to play model is shit compared to Tera. Have you even played Rift f2p before saying it has the best free to play model? Selling 2nd best armor sets in the cash shop is such a good f2p model right? Its almost selling you the best items since the best gear is extremely hard to obtain. Idk about cust**** service since i never really had an issue, but the Rift forums often have people complaning about Trion's services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyaw View Post
    Rift is a good game but the free to play model is shit compared to Tera. Have you even played Rift f2p before saying it has the best free to play model? Selling 2nd best armor sets in the cash shop is such a good f2p model right? Its almost selling you the best items since the best gear is extremely hard to obtain. Idk about cust**** service since i never really had an issue, but the Rift forums often have people complaning about Trion's services.
    Yes i have played the F2P model, and as of right now i obtained my unlocks through the f2P, The second best armour is in the cash shop. But have you looked on what you buy it with? Its for both Credits and also the Marks...Everyone has the same advantage to get it there. You just have to work and not expect Trion to hold your hand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kite View Post
    Delphinic coins have been removed from the game entirely, only gilda stars remain and those are obtained from dailies or intercontinental trade. Things that used to cost delpin now cost gold on mirage isle. On alpha this is seen a pejoratively negative change.

    While the removal of delphinic and gilda from intercontinental isnt bad the fact that they made it so that gold can no longer be acquired through intercontinental trade has really effected big guild trade runs and pirates in general (mush less of them now) its harder to split gilda between guild members or big groups, and pirates have much less need for gilda or high end trading mats saw a stark decline of amount of pirates in general
    Delphic coins weren't removed from the game, they were just renamed to Gilda stars. You're thinking of Tears of Nui coins (the silver ones).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grable View Post
    Delphic coins weren't removed from the game, they were just renamed to Gilda stars. You're thinking of Tears of Nui coins (the silver ones).
    tl;dr
    trion has no say in what features will stay, completely ignore how pretty much everyone interested in the game has voiced their opinion about the gutted trading system.
    game will be dead on launch, much like how it is in korea.

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    The AA Community Manager on Trade Packs...

    http://youtu.be/BnAkbCJwXmA?t=2m11s

    The whole interview is interesting, but kinda meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApocaRUFF View Post
    I'm wondering if I'm just misunderstaning what you're saying, but you can still get gold from both inner-and-inter-continental trade. You can only get Gilda Stars from doing intercontinental (IE, cross-sea) trade. Same with the rarer resources used for some crafting.

    So, there are three traders you can give packs to now: Gilda Star Trader, Gold Trader, and Resource Trader. Gilda Star Traders (And maybe resource?), as far as I know, will only accept packs from an opposing continent (So a Gilda Trader on the East continent will only accept packs made in the West). Gold, as far as I can tell, doesn't matter where the pack came from.
    COMMERCE/TRADE ROUTES
    * Removed Gilda Star traders from Gweonid Forest, Marianople, Arcum Iris, Mahadevi, Falcorth Plains, Sanddeep.
    * Changed the Labor cost of selling a specialty to 60; Labor spent in sales is not affected by Commerce proficiency.
    * Decreased pricing fluctuation range from 50-130% to 70-130%.
    * Changed the schedules for pricing adjustments based on trade pack sales.
    * Made a distinction between inland and overseas trading; divided up overseas trade rewards.
    - Inland trading only rewards gold
    - Overseas trading rewards Gilda Stars or Stabilizers required for crafting:

    http://forums.archeagegame.com/showt...29-Patch-Notes

    and Grabel was correct i was confusing tears with Delphic


    There was a post of alpha forums that explained alot of how this and some of the changes to naval combat ruined pirates and made the seas more boring ill try and look it up

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