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    Default Archeage the next Allods/Swtor F2p

    Lol, labor points regen is ridiculous. You can't use auction house if you're f2p...
    Not being able to own a house and stuff is understanable but seriously can't even use the auction house?
    I'm scared that Trion will kill a pretty good mmorpg if things stay this way. Rift is also pay to win in my eyes. You can buy the 2nd best armor sets in the shop, which jumpstarts you right into raiding for best stuff. For peopling thinking Trion did a good job with Rift f2p, check the forums, people know its semi p2w. I won't be surprised if Trion puts high end gear in Archage's cash shop also. One of the only high quality triple A titles with a good f2p system is Tera. I just hope Trion doesn't finally makes changes when its too late like Allods.

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    Limiting free to play is a double edged sword.
    It prevents the real money trade exploitation that could happen with f2p'ers, and it generates revenue from accounts of those owned by gold farmers. At the same time the punishment is shared with those who aren't seeking to do such things.
    At the end of the day though, these are companies and for the most part they only exist to make a profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreyTrey12 View Post
    Limiting free to play is a double edged sword.
    It prevents the real money trade exploitation that could happen with f2p'ers, and it generates revenue from accounts of those owned by gold farmers. At the same time the punishment is shared with those who aren't seeking to do such things.
    Paying users could still do it especially gold farmers

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaoscauser View Post
    Paying users could still do it especially gold farmers
    That's true, but in doing so they can profit off them. Bans only mean another account needs to be bought.

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    There's no real point discussing things like this since we cannot change anything and the people in charge of these decisions are just suits that consider X profit margin a success. Regardless of whether or not they could double or triple it and give the players more enjoyment as well.

    The funny thing is that these games are ALWAYS making money on release and the publishers & developers ALWAYS assume that people agree with their payment methods and model. Then when the game starts to die for whatever reason they freak out and either fix it after a significant percentage of the players have given up on the game or make it worse and drive the game into the ground.


    Shit, does anyone even remember DOMO?
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    Like Allods, it should have gone P2P from the start. Perhaps not with a 15 dollar monthly fee, but still.

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    i gave up on this game after the russian version ... so eff it ...
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    I absolutely agree on free players not being able to use Auction House. I don't know what by the gods they were thinking there. And I say that as a paying user.

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    where did they post the model?

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    Why do u mention Allods? o_o

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    Free accounts will be able to unlock full Auction House access as a low-cost Marketplace purchase, a measure in place to protect the in-game economy from mass-created accounts.
    via: http://www.archeagegame.com/en/news/...-program-apex/

    I see no issue with this. They went out of their way to mention the cost being low so I expect 5 bucks or lower.

    Not to mention the cash shop items aren't even finalized yet as they mentioned working on them after feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airsyk View Post
    Free accounts will be able to unlock full Auction House access as a low-cost Marketplace purchase, a measure in place to protect the in-game economy from mass-created accounts.
    via: http://www.archeagegame.com/en/news/...-program-apex/

    I see no issue with this. They went out of their way to mention the cost being low so I expect 5 bucks or lower.

    Not to mention the cash shop items aren't even finalized yet as they mentioned working on them after feedback.
    Yeah but the labor points is still going to limit plenty of endgame stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrias View Post
    Yeah but the labor points is still going to limit plenty of endgame stuff.
    Well yea. I'm not optimistic about it but they did say they were going to work on it. I just think everyone should hold off until the prices are final in some way.

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    seriously if you want to play this hardcore ... just pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poeticas View Post
    seriously if you want to play this hardcore ... just pay for it.
    this.
    if you intend to really play archeage, you need a subscription because labor points dictate a lot of what you can and can't do.
    and it's worth it, anyway. pre 1.0 is one of the best mmos.

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    Currently level 24. Done a moderate amount of crafting, working on my house and farm. I can dedicate about 2-3 hours a day playing, more sometimes. Brutally honest but, As long as you have a life outside the game, labor shouldn't be an issue. Patrons regen labor offline. If you really enjoy the game that much, then become a patron. Easy as that. As a patron I've never had issues with my labor. Not seeing the fuss. I see the f2p part of the game as a trial version. To get the full experience you need to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mxerdude View Post
    Currently level 24. Done a moderate amount of crafting, working on my house and farm. I can dedicate about 2-3 hours a day playing, more sometimes. Brutally honest but, As long as you have a life outside the game, labor shouldn't be an issue. Patrons regen labor offline. If you really enjoy the game that much, then become a patron. Easy as that. As a patron I've never had issues with my labor. Not seeing the fuss. I see the f2p part of the game as a trial version. To get the full experience you need to pay.
    dont get to into it because its CB ...
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    I don't mind the current system. It's basically the same as in Russia (minus the auction house restrictions, I believe) and a majority of players were fine with it. Keep in mind that for every person that complains, there are a hundred satisfied people who simply have chosen to keep their mouths shut. Generally, the only times you want to go out of your way to communicate (IE go on forums and reply to feedback/complaint threads) is when you have complaints of your own, or when you're a hyper-hyped fanboy.

    That all being said, if you're in ArcheAge, feel free to come join Amitabha. We're growing in numbers. Currently have about 15 active players in the beta. I want to get another 10-15 active players before launch. Perhaps a bit more so we can have at least 15 or so people online at any one time.

    Our ArcheAge forum recruitment post has more information about us and our goals in the game.

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    What about the possibility of high end gear being in the cash shop, like in Rift. I'd like to know opinions. I will be a patron but i'm just worried about the future of the game. Sorry if i sounded a bit like a typical complainer. I just wanted to see legit opinions about the game since on the offical Archeage forums, its mostly patrons calling f2p players useless cheapos. And to tihi85, Allods lost most its players after the cash shop transition when it released. Allods is arguedly one of the best if not the best quality mmorpg which came out f2p from the start. Archeage is another very good mmorpg that will be f2p from release but i really hope Trion doesn't **** up like Gpotato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyaw View Post
    What about the possibility of high end gear being in the cash shop, like in Rift. I'd like to know opinions. I will be a patron but i'm just worried about the future of the game. Sorry if i sounded a bit like a typical complainer. I just wanted to see legit opinions about the game since on the offical Archeage forums, its mostly patrons calling f2p players useless cheapos. And to tihi85, Allods lost most its players after the cash shop transition when it released. Allods is arguedly one of the best if not the best quality mmorpg which came out f2p from the start. Archeage is another very good mmorpg that will be f2p from release but i really hope Trion doesn't **** up like Gpotato.

    Archeage ... it should have just went full p2p really because the freemium restrictions are stupid.
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    b2p + cosmetic like gw2 wouldve been really good, and buffs etc.
    they already have quite a few costume in cashop?
    sell ship costumes too lol cause u can mod them soon in next patch?
    so many way for them to urn reel mone

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    Yep. I remember the ol' days of gaming when we got 5 minute demos of games on CD and had to judge whether we wanted to but it based on that. Hell, I remember buying DOZENS of NES games based on box art alone.

    This system that allows a MASSIVE amount of access for an UNLIMITED amount of time is no where near as good!(end sarcasm)

    I played the RU version extensively. Trust me when I say, You REEEEEALLY want the AH restriction.
    Within two months bots had taken over the market and everything but the rarest of items had become worthless.

    Ultimately, it's a good system which looks to place Trion's as the best version of ArcheAge to be released so far.

    I could go on and rant about how cheap the game's premium services actually are and that a month of access it's cheaper than a meal at 2-Star restaurant. However, I feel that it would be lost on those who feel the need to complain about having to pay for entertainment. If you don't like it amuse yourself freely and f*** off while the rest of us pay a great price for a great service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skarcrow View Post
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    I don't mind paying a small one time fee for AH but the fact that they will get offline labor points equivalent to that of free account online labor points is ridiculous. labor points are integral to the game and limiting it so much in free accounts is horrible. I hope there are ways around it.

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