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    Exclamation Wildstar Dev: No More Monthly Content Updates! Your Thoughts?


    In a recent Gamescom interview, one of Wildstars Senior Developers stated that they are going to be slowing down content updates. I give my response to this news and why I think its a bad idea!

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    A p2p game not giving any monthly updates? Well, good luck keeping the playerbase to what it is, cause I doubt new players will be joining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HamsterMascot View Post
    A p2p game not giving any monthly updates? Well, good luck keeping the playerbase to what it is, cause I doubt new players will be joining.
    WoW hasn't put out content in almost a year, still the most popular MMO out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z0MBiE View Post
    WoW hasn't put out content in almost a year, still the most popular MMO out.
    to be fair, u cant compare games like wow that was on block for a while with lots of past updates ant oweral big content with games that just started out and already slowing down updates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z0MBiE View Post
    WoW hasn't put out content in almost a year, still the most popular MMO out.
    You can't deny that blizzard used a popular series to make their mmo, and while they haven't updated for a while, the game is what, 7-8 years old now? They also brought in a shit ton of expansions etc... And you also know that the population of WoW is declining, but those players will most likely return after the new expansion.

    Compared to wildstar that's only a few months old, and with only 2 updates they already say they're only updating every 2 months? High level players will run out of content like crazy, and the PvP so imbalanced that you can't fully enjoy it.

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    Did WoW update more often than every 2 months when it was as young as WildStar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rya.Reisender View Post
    Did WoW update more often than every 2 months when it was as young as WildStar?
    It updated every month, but they didn't add a lot. 1.2 was the first patch that added something, came 2 months after release.
    3 months later, they added Diremaul.. so yeah, WoW was very slow with content updates.

    But still, Wildstar has all this content already made, and suddenly they say they're not going to release every month?
    Game already has nothing to do at cap outside of raiding, and most guilds are almost done with the 20man content, and the rest of the servers don't even have large enough population to support 40man raiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z0MBiE View Post
    WoW hasn't put out content in almost a year, still the most popular MMO out.
    You can't compare WoW to any other MMO at this point. It should be put in it's own genre to stop people from adding it to discussions like this.
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    But Wildstar is basically by the same development team. So I wouldn't find it so unusual if they will go for the same update strategy.

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    to be fair, u cant compare games like wow that was on block for a while with lots of past updates ant oweral big content with games that just started out and already slowing down updates
    he can cause the content of wildstar is fair enough. There are still bosses that no one deafeated
    cause they are too strong. Even guilds who are focused on instance runs cant defeat these bosses + there are many other things to do.
    Sure WoW has more cause of many Expansions but if they slow down the updates in wildstar its still
    fine cause they dont need updates the whole time.
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    Here's the thing, WoW WAS the game back in the day, it was a Goliath in its own right even with games like Ever Quest and Land of Horizons stomping around. The fact that it already had a massive pre-built fan base also did nothing but help the game, as it gave it a gigantic launch pad to take off from, a huge player base from the get-go to develop out of. Wild Star came completely out of the blue with massive promises, "We already have two years worth of updates prepared post launch to put into the game, we'll be consistent" and yet they're already announcing they won't be.

    As well as this, Wild Star has FAR more competition in the MMo space than WoW ever did in its inception, why should i play Wild Star when i could get Guildwars 2 for the same price as three months of play? Why should i get Wild Star when i could just go and download any of a massive number of other MMOs that are free, some of which are significantly better? The field has become far more cut-throat since the early WoW days and way less forgiving.

    Imagine the MMO market is a pond and each MMO is a fish, WoW has been swimming around in that pond for a very long time, back when their weren't' so many fish to compete with and grew because of it; very little can hurt what is essentially the Goliath Groper of the MMO world. But here's Wild Star, essentially a goldfish and already it's dying a quick death for want of attention and people, you have to be a way more aggressive and energetic fish in these waters to survive now adays than you did back then :I

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    Not that World of Warcraft will increase the level cap higher than 100 anyway... since the devs themselves said they wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HamsterMascot View Post
    A p2p game not giving any monthly updates? Well, good luck keeping the playerbase to what it is, cause I doubt new players will be joining.
    What player base? I've been actively playing this game since pre-launch and will tell you....well let's just say i was in queue for PRACTICE ARENA 2s for 45min last night and didn't even get a queue...and yes, it was a cross realm queue

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    Which dev said this? I wouldn't mind a link to the interview.

    Nvm I wasn't feeling as lazy as I thought.

    http://www.gamefront.com/wildstar-wi...nthly-updates/

    Pretty well put together video. From a business standpoint you're spot on. This isn't the kind of publicity WildStar needs right now. The headline alone is damning enough. That said as a casual player, I'm glad they're realizing early that what people need in the game right now is bug fixes, optimization, economic reformation, and pvp balance. The game launched with insane amounts of content. No hurry from casual players like me for them to release more content when I have only gotten through 15% of what's there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldReactive View Post
    Not that World of Warcraft will increase the level cap higher than 100 anyway... since the devs themselves said they wouldn't.
    Uhh yes they will. / Don't spread misinformation
    Infact they stated multiple times they made the max level in WoD 100 to break the assumption that the level won't go higher than 100 as soon as possible rather than doing another 5 lvl expack.

    They already confirmed the max level WILL go higher than 100. They didn't say if we would get higher max level in the next expansion right away as they want to make this one a 2-raid tier only to release the next one faster, but they did say they intended to raise the max level above 100.

    (I'm not going to go through 5 hours of reading on mmochamp to find the posts they made when they announced WOD about this though)
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    The frequency of updates doesn't matter as much as the quality of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroleTheUntamed View Post
    The frequency of updates doesn't matter as much as the quality of them.
    Truer words have never been spoken.
    Give players something that is truly enjoyable and they will play it for a long time.
    However, most MMOs just dump out mindless grind after grind. They keep people playing for progression and completion rather than fun.

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    Because it's 2014 now. People didn't have the same expectations back when WoW was released. The genre wasn't even fully defined at that point.

    It wouldn't have been that big a deal had the devs said "We will update every 2 months" before release. It's when devs go back on their word that it annoys people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldReactive View Post
    Not that World of Warcraft will increase the level cap higher than 100 anyway... since the devs themselves said they wouldn't.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...2392168?page=2

    ^They have every intention to keep going. You really think they're going to end with Warlords of Draenor? Ha.

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    I don't blame the devs because I know it's not easy. But promise is promise, they should at least do something to compensate those who bought the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntzukid View Post
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...2392168?page=2

    ^They have every intention to keep going. You really think they're going to end with Warlords of Draenor? Ha.
    Ofc he believes, people on ONRPG believe everything.
    Also, I said from the beginning that wildstar is an absolutely terrible game in every regard, but ONRPG hype train was going strong as always.
    Why do people even still buy games from NCSOFT. NEVER buy anything that has to do with ncsoft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charly1337 View Post
    Ofc he believes, people on ONRPG believe everything.
    Also, I said from the beginning that wildstar is an absolutely terrible game in every regard, but ONRPG hype train was going strong as always.
    Why do people even still buy games from NCSOFT. NEVER buy anything that has to do with ncsoft.
    Did this guy read the thread?

    No one said it was bad, Sure, there are some elements that could make it bad (The PVP and dailies from what I've read here). But from what I heard and still hear the PVE is fantastic. I believe your the only one saying the game is bad, for example it's like when someone flies in to a thread says a game is shit because open world PVP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heartyace View Post
    Did this guy read the thread?

    No one said it was bad, Sure, there are some elements that could make it bad (The PVP and dailies from what I've read here). But from what I heard and still hear the PVE is fantastic. I believe your the only one saying the game is bad, for example it's like when someone flies in to a thread says a game is shit because open world PVP.
    I liked the PVE. It was difficult but it was also borderline frustrating since it wasn't forgiving at all. But the lack of optimization was an absolute travesty.

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    May as well drop this here: https://forums.wildstar-online.com/f.../#entry1148679

    President of Carbine is stepping down.

    Hey guys.



    I wanted to let you know that I’m stepping down as President of Carbine Studios. I’m not leaving entirely; I’ll be adopting more of a consulting role going forward with Carbine (and possibly elsewhere in the industry down the road).



    This is not a bad thing. Some of our current development stars will be stepping up to lead WildStar forward while I can help work with them from the outside.



    I have a personal “no bullshit” policy (which I think I’ve infused Carbine with as well), so let me give some context here without getting too personal.



    “Focusing on family” is most often, in my opinion, a horseshit excuse you hear from executive types (usually departing with a forcible shove).



    In my case, it is part of my reason for stepping down - through 2013, my wife and I lost six members of our families to various reasons – mostly cancer. I myself was diagnosed at the end of last year with a fatal-if-untreated form of skin cancer. I had let it go untreated/undiagnosed for over 9 months while focusing on work instead. I dodged a bullet; surgery was successful and I’m cancer-free - but (if you ever go through anything similar you’ll know) that’s a hell of a wake-up call.



    I mention this now (I usually don’t talk about personal stuff, because who cares) to say: don’t be my brand of idiot, if you see an unusual mole or marking get it checked out ASAP; there’s worse stuff out there than what I had.



    On the professional front, when you lead a team this size in a company this size, there are a variety of strong opinions on every major decision. It’s been a pleasure helping steer us through to launch, but I think having one less strong opinion in the mix can be a good thing too. Even if I’m always right, of course.



    Anyways, all this culminates in a need to take some time off before leaping into the next set of adventures. This has not been an easy decision for me to make, as I’ve pretty much poured my life into Carbine and WildStar. I’m proud of what we accomplished; we took a no-name IP to a big ass MMO launch, which ain’t easy in this day and age. There’s more work to do (the devs are indeed listening) but we have a great team to do it with as well.



    I think it’s important that the folks here coordinate together around a single vision to move forward, and as part of that I’m looking forward to working with NCSOFT and Carbine in a very supportive role moving forward. I’ll likely not be as active in the forums and community as I have been in the past (some of y’all have noticed this already as I’ve worked here on my transition over the last months). But I’m far too passionate about you and WildStar to just get up and go entirely; while my role has changed, my voice hasn’t.



    Thanks guys for your support and for being passionate WildStar fans – I remain one too.



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