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    I KNOW that you should pay to get the better parts of the game BUT, you can't get far unless you chip in. That's all i'm trying to say. I love the superiority mentality of these people who act like elitists towards people who don't want to pay. Everyone has their reasons and a "cheap" monthly fee being well worth it is highly subjective. FACT is, you can't get far in this game unless you pay. And putting a paywall on the access of auction house won't do jack against bots. If a bot problem is that big, the auction house restriction won't stop it. Idk about you but paying $15 a month to be able to play a "f2p" game properly isn't worth it. Tbh, Archeage would of been better off b2p with a cash shop, or straight up p2p.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyaw View Post
    I KNOW that you should pay to get the better parts of the game BUT, you can't get far unless you chip in. That's all i'm trying to say. I love the superiority mentality of these people who act like elitists towards people who don't want to pay. Everyone has their reasons and a "cheap" monthly fee being well worth it is highly subjective. FACT is, you can't get far in this game unless you pay. And putting a paywall on the access of auction house won't do jack against bots. If a bot problem is that big, the auction house restriction won't stop it. Idk about you but paying $15 a month to be able to play a "f2p" game properly isn't worth it. Tbh, Archeage would of been better off b2p with a cash shop, or straight up p2p.
    format plz.

    the game is supposed to be played with other people - not necessarily solo.
    you can get far, but it takes a lot more time than someone who pays.

    putting a paywall on SELLING on the auction house, yes it does stop bots to an extent.

    lots of f2p require you to spend money in the cash shop to "enjoy" it properly, either way.
    i know people who spend very much on rift, tera, etc. hell, i even spend a lot on dota2 cosmetics..


    Quote Originally Posted by Jancokman View Post
    completely agree with OP, movement and camera doesn't seem natural or smooth compared to TERA, C9, mabinogi heroes or other new mmos. Heck even WoW has smoother movement and camera, at first I thought this game was developed by Chinese Studio because of it.
    exactly the same feeling when I played PE, Age of Wushu.
    im sorry, but that's definitely something on your end, because that's simply not true.

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    I'd love to play, but eroge has forced my hard drive to its limit, no space for the game...kind of (Heard its like 30+ gigs) :x

    Looks fun though
    compressed to 8gb now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jancokman View Post
    completely agree with OP, movement and camera doesn't seem natural or smooth compared to TERA, C9, mabinogi heroes or other new mmos. Heck even WoW has smoother movement and camera, at first I thought this game was developed by Chinese Studio because of it.
    exactly the same feeling when I played PE, Age of Wushu.
    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post

    im sorry, but that's definitely something on your end, because that's simply not true.
    No, the camera actually feels unnatural, just compare it to TERA, C9 or other action mmos. That was the first thing I noticed when I got into the beta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektaris View Post
    No, the camera actually feels unnatural, just compare it to TERA, C9 or other action mmos. That was the first thing I noticed when I got into the beta
    i think it's fine? it's not an action mmo so ofcourse it's not the same - it's literally no different from wow's camera though, which is really good.

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    With such astonishing scenarios, a smoother camera like Tera would have been better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektaris View Post
    With such astonishing scenarios, a smoother camera like Tera would have been better
    but unlike TERA, it doesn't rely solely on its combat system to maintain its playerbase.

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    What does that even mean? I was comparing the camera type and you come out with the combat system.
    And if you want my opinion, tab-target combat system is unacceptable in 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektaris View Post
    What does that even mean? I was comparing the camera type and you come out with the combat system.
    And if you want my opinion, tab-target combat system is unacceptable in 2014
    that's subjective. if it's as polished as archeages, it's not bad. i highly prefer it to W*, GW2 and other inferior combat systems in games. TERA and BD so far seem to be the only ones who got the action combat system down.

    TERAs camera is directly tied to its combat system, though. you attack in the direction you're facing, which is why you can't compare the two really.
    but i still don't get your complaints about archeage's camera?
    like how is this bad? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post




    compressed to 8gb now.
    Oh, really? That's some good news then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post
    that's subjective. if it's as polished as archeages, it's not bad. i highly prefer it to W*, GW2 and other inferior combat systems in games. TERA and BD so far seem to be the only ones who got the action combat system down.

    TERAs camera is directly tied to its combat system, though. you attack in the direction you're facing, which is why you can't compare the two really.
    but i still don't get your complaints about archeage's camera?
    like how is this bad? lol
    Just the way you move around the camera. It does not feel like it has anything smoothening it like in GW2, or Vindictus. It feels clunky when you rotate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post
    that's subjective. if it's as polished as archeages, it's not bad. i highly prefer it to W*, GW2 and other inferior combat systems in games. TERA and BD so far seem to be the only ones who got the action combat system down.

    TERAs camera is directly tied to its combat system, though. you attack in the direction you're facing, which is why you can't compare the two really.
    but i still don't get your complaints about archeage's camera?
    like how is this bad? lol
    candy, after pumping some time into archeage i can give you some better input. Guys, archeage is NOT clunky (i was the one who stated it was in the OP), it is just DIFFERENT from wildstar/tera/gw2. I've noticed that the overall speed of the character, sensitivity, and mouse acceleration of the game is slower. This gives players from wildstar/gw2 the initial sensation of being "clunky". If you get used to the speeds, though, the clunkiness feel goes away and games like wildstar/gw2 feel really slippery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -JK- View Post
    candy, after pumping some time into archeage i can give you some better input. Guys, archeage is NOT clunky (i was the one who stated it was in the OP), it is just DIFFERENT from wildstar/tera/gw2. I've noticed that the overall speed of the character, sensitivity, and mouse acceleration of the game is slower. This gives players from wildstar/gw2 the initial sensation of being "clunky". If you get used to the speeds, though, the clunkiness feel goes away and games like wildstar/gw2 feel really slippery.
    this is why there are camera options
    hell, you can even choose between 'action' mode and regular mode.

    Quote Originally Posted by Squall098 View Post
    Just the way you move around the camera. It does not feel like it has anything smoothening it like in GW2, or Vindictus. It feels clunky when you rotate.
    like i said, the 'smoothening' you experience is a part of their core gameplay decision.
    it's common in games that aren't using tab-target.
    i take it you've never played eq or wow etc?
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    The controls/combat is Modern Tab Target. Meaning similar to WoW but with 10 years of evolution and improvements on the concept.
    I find the system rather satisfying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post
    this is why there are camera options
    hell, you can even choose between 'action' mode and regular mode.



    like i said, the 'smoothening' you experience is a part of their core gameplay decision.
    it's common in games that aren't using tab-target.
    i take it you've never played eq or wow etc?
    Camera options don't do anything, if you've actually messed around with the settings you'll know that the only difference between the action and classic options is that action forces the camera closer to the character....that's it. No one will use this because you're seriously handicapped with your fov. They don't even have a sensitivity option yet. That's literally the only difference. Fov, it doesn't change to slower mouse acceleration.

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    I don't see anything wrong with the camera. It works just fine for mi~

    I've been playing a Ranger (Shadowplay/Archery/Vitalism), lv 35 now. I'm pretty bad at the game tho I think, I keep getting killed by people, havent ever won a fight against another player yet...

    It sounds fun, I want to have my own farm, but there's really soooo much in the game that I'm really lost.

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    Played up to Palace Cellar @ lv20 after getting in CBT4, so I had a taste of the first dungeon but nothing more yet.

    Levelling up 1-20 I felt like the game was a quest grind, and I didn't have too much fun playing it. I am glad there is LOS since it is PvP focused, but when I found out that my spells couldn't be cancelled if an enemy moved behind me I was really sad. I feel like if a modern MMO is going to be tab-targetting, then players should have to manually face towards the enemy when they cast spells on them. It just adds on another skill layer to combat in the game. Soo.. I would rate combat a 5/10. Good enough to play, but not amazing.

    Class combination is an interesting thing. I myself prefer having many many classes(20+), but not through this class combination thing Archeage does. I feel like individual classes would be more fleshed out if they were built individually instead of this class combo thing. I've nothing really to comment on it. It's kinda cool, but nothing special either imo. It's really complex but sometimes you risk becoming a subpar version of what you really wanna be :<

    Palace Cellar was where it started getting fun for me. 2-manned it with a friend and we wiped a lot on the last boss. I had a lot of fun, but the mechanics for the last boss fight were really obscure; I didn't know that walking in the water would put out the flame and that I was supposed to use a nulling potion on the boss to take off his buff lol. I think when the game actually launches I'll pick it up and play it again since I had fun running that dungeon. Hopefully, I will also do some other stuff and PvP when I get higher level after launch.

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    Yea the core of the game is mostly nothing new, bland at that. Though there are quite a lot of fun random things to do. Minus the farming, leveling, crafting, and pvp it has been pretty fun running around doing random junk. Got the first boat and was dragging the boat across the land. Been lately making mml codes for the music papers. So far made rick roll, kan gou lai - Richie Ren song, and a bunch of other songs. Sail the seas for a long time so far spotted a storm, white shark, sea bugs, nuians (bunch of *******s they literally stand there and farm the trade run port), dragging rowboats around, and attempted to look for kraken several times.

    Several things that is going to be broken simply because everyone have access to jury. Closed beta everyone that got to the stand is sentence to be guilty no matter what. Area's that's going to be pack on trade runs ports (unless you're packing an army). Patron status I actually see a legitimate problem (now with patron status) with it but too many topics and too many ppl butt hurt about the topic so I'm gonna leave that out to myself.

    This is pretty much a game you don't take seriously really. You can be the number crunching guy about it but since this game isn't suppose to be about PVE (Can't really say it's an exact hardcore pvp either despite the pvp wars and etc.) it really don't leave you with much but to run around and mess with things. Then again this is just my opinion after playing for a while.

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    People are saying that Tera, a game where using a skill locks you in place, has better movement controls than Archeage? Dafuq is wrong with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goawaybeavis View Post
    People are saying that Tera, a game where using a skill locks you in place, has better movement controls than Archeage? Dafuq is wrong with you?
    Why do people keep saying this and use it as if it's something negative?
    Each ability has its own animation lock, which in turn requires you to know what move to use when, to not put yourself at a disadvantage.
    They also move you certain distances, and depending on your race, you will have different animations/hitboxes etc.
    It's a very well made combat system, and it's a lot better than Archeages.

    That aside, the two should generally not be compared, because they're not similar games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goawaybeavis View Post
    People are saying that Tera, a game where using a skill locks you in place, has better movement controls than Archeage? Dafuq is wrong with you?
    TERA combat is way more fluid and the character movement looks natural, camera doesn't feel clunky.
    Archeage's control just give of the feel like some cheaply made chinese mmo.

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    Untill they add the apex system, F2P players are EXTREMELY gimped. You cant use the auction house, you cant even do a bunch of the crafting professions since they require you to craft things that require items not obtainable via the public farms. One example being alchemy. Alchemy requires medicinal powder for pretty much every thing. Only thing is you need to be able grow mushrooms to get the powder, which cannot be grown in the public farms. .. So I didnt get to do much playing in the beta since I was not about to pay for a character that will be deleted.

    Aside from that I love the epic feeling Archeage has. Everything feels so wide open and adventurous. Love that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jancokman View Post
    TERA combat is way more fluid and the character movement looks natural, camera doesn't feel clunky.
    Archeage's control just give of the feel like some cheaply made chinese mmo.
    yeah, so i guess wow has cheap controls too?
    lol get out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thetake View Post
    Untill they add the apex system, F2P players are EXTREMELY gimped. You cant use the auction house, you cant even do a bunch of the crafting professions since they require you to craft things that require items not obtainable via the public farms. One example being alchemy. Alchemy requires medicinal powder for pretty much every thing. Only thing is you need to be able grow mushrooms to get the powder, which cannot be grown in the public farms. .. So I didnt get to do much playing in the beta since I was not about to pay for a character that will be deleted.

    Aside from that I love the epic feeling Archeage has. Everything feels so wide open and adventurous. Love that.
    extremely gimped? hell no.
    there are several people who got a boat etc. playing f2p.
    you CAN use the auction house, you just can't sell on it (you can alternatively have your friends who have patron sell for you)
    public farms are not meant to substitute a real farm, go out in the open and plant there instead. don't be a pussy.
    only way to get early boat/farm is to plant trees out in the wild.
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    Anyone plan on playing this seriously? If so let me know, forming a small group of about 4-8 people.

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    I played it for i think around 3 months. Got 1 50 to pirate, 3 50s on east faction one of which was archemaster.
    Absolutely love it. PvP has meaning - something that's been missing in every game.
    The questing is pretty dry tbh. That's not where the game shines at all and sadly it'll turn a few people off. But if you can get through that, the depth is insane. I think the game would be improved by finding a way to tone down the cookie cutter classes (this would be extremely difficult to do due to the class system).
    Majority of people running around are daggerspells, darkrunners, and primevals.
    I personally enjoyed Blighter the most. Two of my 50s mained blighter. Any class with defense is extremely viable. Defense+witchcraft mages are a bit overpowered imo. Shadowknight, Cabalist, Dreambreaker, they're all incredible due to the mudhand enervate combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post

    extremely gimped? hell no.
    there are several people who got a boat etc. playing f2p.
    you CAN use the auction house, you just can't sell on it (you can alternatively have your friends who have patron sell for you)
    im not so sure about not being gimped as f2p. farming, yes, i do agree on that, u dont nessesary need your own farm, but they do help. bigest problem i see with f2p is labor points, specialy early ingame. im not sure prices for crafting so maybe its not that bad but, tp thingies cost 50lp, glider upgrade 25 lp, so i asume all crafting will cost more than 5 tp.

    got 2 chars to 14~lvl, in total i had just ower 200lp on account leftower after indentifieng gear from q. and from what ive seen ... it cost like 20 to cut a tree or something. only way i see to do any crafting ... leaving your character online 24/7 and thats just stupid(this whole problem comes from that f2p doesnt recover lp when ofline)


    oh and i lowe that argument that ewerybodu seems to be puting out right now, friend with patron can help u ... ye just thing is ... most ppl gona use thses patron advantages to themself, coz u know ... theres litle point of being patron and not farming/using ah



    overall i still did enjoyed game, for some reasons its more interesting than gw2( for me that is)

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