Tuition fees doubling limiting admissions

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With the current economic situation alot of things have changed. We all know big businesses have gone bankrupt or closed their stores. People are losing their jobs left and right. Eveyone is spending less. House prices are cheap and some places like detriot even sell for around 20 grand. Good for buyers bad for owners.

Now with all this bad shit happening you think it couldn't get worse.

Well murphy's law strikes again.

I still am finishing up classes in Sac state university and have heard talk of it all over. Basically the talk is that the tuition fees for Univeristies and colleges will double by next year.

Now you may be thinking what!? (and yes it isn't just happening in my state)

Yes even with this economic crisis of barely making ends meet you have another thing to deal with. Alot of people who were layed off are trying to go back to school to get a higher education so they have better qualifications for a job.

Now they are saying that tuition fees will double and they will limit the amount of admissions accepted. This means the people suffering the most from this economy will suffer even more. Even the average kid trying to get a higher education to get a good job might be turned away or not be able to afford it.

Now I pay only around 7,000 USD a year for my tuition but if that were to double or go up by even 50% it will make it alot harder to pay off. Yes there are scholarships and grants but not everyone can get one. And the fact that there is a higher chance you may not be accept at all adds to it.

When the economy is in such bad shape most people are trying to find a job and without the proper education they won't get much. So they are basically stuck.

Now I am unsure what the fees are for university but for most jr colleges I know they will go from 20 USD a unit to 40 USD a unit.


Just wondering what is everyone's thought on this topic. Will it affect you?
why? or why not?

Sac state university?

Do you live in Sacramental by any chance?

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Originally Posted by Espada1

Sac state university?

Do you live in Sacramental by any chance?

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I live about 40 minutes away near Folsom.

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Originally Posted by IronyTaken

I live about 40 minutes away near Folsom.

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O nice. I live in Elk Grove.

Anyway how is Sacstate? good USC?

yah it's mainly known for business majors but you can get a good major in science too.

if it's doubled, then it would be like 14,000 USD? wow I cant imagine the fee for those international students then O_O

how about studying in the north aka. Canada XD :3

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Originally Posted by IronyTaken

yah it's mainly known for business majors but you can get a good major in science too.

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Dang it really?!

Business isn't a good major in this kind of economy?

Tuition isn't going to double.

lmao



Maybe for poor schools, but certainly not for many schools (if any).

****ing shit man I plan to go to University of Texas after HS if this shit continues i'm ****ed.

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Originally Posted by Moshi2

if it's doubled, then it would be like 14,000 USD? wow I cant imagine the fee for those international students then O_O

how about studying in the north aka. Canada XD :3

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From what I hear living in the dorms can cost about 15k-20k. I can't remember back in the States (I lived there when I was young didn't worry about this kind of stuff) but the provincial government gives you loans you can apply for every year in college. This can be about eight-thousand dollars if your family income is about 40-50k yearly. Under that you can apply for burseries (Spelling?) where it's considered "free" money; the government pays for a substantial amount (or all of it, depending on your situation) and you don't pay them back. I've looked into some universites since I'm graduating next year and a few even cost 30k for dorm-life! I plan on coming back to the States anyway for post-high school.

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Originally Posted by IronyTaken

The junior college i used to go to is odouble from 20 to 40 USD a unit.

And it is a pretty rich college in a rich neighborhood, but students who aren't rich go to it too.

Sac state I think will go from 7000 USD to 11000 USD for me based on estimates but that is still close to a 50% increase.

Other states have reported to be doubling rates soon for a majority of universities and colleges like in florida.

Also they are having more restrictions on admissions so alot more people won't get in.

Maybe you don't know how bad we are suffering economically, becuase it is bad.

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Why is the economy so bad? I thought oil prices were going down...

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Originally Posted by IronyTaken

The junior college i used to go to is odouble from 20 to 40 USD a unit.

And it is a pretty rich college in a rich neighborhood, but students who aren't rich go to it too.

Sac state I think will go from 7000 USD to 11000 USD for me based on estimates but that is still close to a 50% increase.

Other states have reported to be doubling rates soon for a majority of universities and colleges like in florida.

Also they are having more restrictions on admissions so alot more people won't get in.

Maybe you don't know how bad we are suffering economically, becuase it is bad.

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Don't talk down to me as if I am not as intelligent as you.

I decided to test your theory about colleges and universities in Florida having this happen to them as well. I contacted a sibling of mine who attends the University of Miami over MSN, I asked if he had heard anything about this from anyone at his school/nearby schools, nothing.


Maybe you don't know how bad we are suffering economically for stupid reasons, because it is pretty bad. A couple colleges in my state had to cut DivII sport programs in order to save money. Sad part is, that with a good financial advisor 95% of the cuts they had to make could have been avoided.

Maybe you don't know how the financial system works for a college, because it's pretty interesting. It's been proven that the more a school charges, the higher the interest in that school typically. Most people would prefer to go to MIT despite it's high cost of tuition ($25,000?), as opposed to smaller state schools where the tuition is much less. Typically, juniors and seniors follow the guideline of; Higher cost = Better school.


But wait.. There's a catch! Despite that fact that total costs at MIT come to well over $50,000, it's odd for a student to pay more than $30,000 because of the financial aid, many pay much less than that even.


Then you've got schools like Harvard, who have accounts set up which recieve a small portion of the profit from sporting events, tuitions costs, etc. This fund is used for many things, mainly paying for scholarships, financial aid, etc. The reason I mentioned Harvard is because they have such a large fund it would be possible to completely take away all costs for attending school there without going bankrupt, as they have so much money put away in a fund for things like that.

Most colleges are not desperate for money, despite how bad the financial system is. In fact, most schools will likely drop the average cost per student if the economy gets worse to allow more people to attend, as raising the costs will earn them less money unless it's a school like MIT or Harvard where you'll go if you're accepted because they're such great schools.

So, smaller state schools will most likely raise prices slightly, where as bigger schools will most likely do one of the following;

- Make cuts while increasing tuition slightly.
- Raise the cost by a significant amount, while increasing financial aid opportunities.
- Increase costs a higher amount, but not double, to avoid making cuts.



The chance of a high percentage of schools, or even a significant percentage of schools, doubling tuiton costs is slim to none. While price increases are inevitable at many schools, doubling the cost over one year is unheard of.

fk i was planning to go to uni next year ==

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Originally Posted by MrWafflez

Good article to back up your point, because a 9% increase in tuition is equivalent to double the tuition!

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that was one example. And I never said every state will raise it to double I said some places.

9% is still alot and having that 9% increase every year would add up.

Your missing the whole point here.

And that is tuition fees having been going up for every year, I can't say every single place has done this but I can say alot are.

for us it will be almost 50% from 7000 to 11000.

And back in 2001 my classes would have added up to around 3500-4000.

in the the early 70's around the time my father was going to college it cost you around 50-54 bucks to pay for a full course.

Now do you think tuition fees are really following inflation?

I think not.

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Originally Posted by Espada1

Why is the economy so bad? I thought oil prices were going down...

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Ever heard of supply and demand?

When oil prices go down, it means the demand for oil goes down, and the demand for oil goes down, it means that less people are using oil. That means less goods are being made and less goods are being moved (since transportation requires fuel, most of which use oil-products for fuel), which in turn means less goods are being bought.

In other words: cheaper oil, less stuff done with oil, and since we're an oil-addicted country, not a lot of stuff can't get done without oil.

No, oil prices going up is a good thing right now.