Mac vs. PC Windows 7 vs. Mac Ad: Broken Promises

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10-25-2009, 10:08 PM
Phil3070

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Originally Posted by IronyTaken

My bet is that you had a bad video card and kept buying low end video cards.

If you actually got a good video card you wouldn't need to upgrade for many years.

Like it's been said a 9400m is very weak and not meant for extreme video editing or gaming.

Well this could be. I'm not rich. So I don't have the money to buy high end stuff.

Also, I haven't used any editing software that I like more than FCP. Avid is okay, but even on the Mac, I don't like it. If FCP was compatible with PC and if I was still a gamer, then I'd probably have a PC. But as far as it goes for creative stuff, I'm sticking with Mac. Especially if an issue comes up with hardware.

PC manufacturers need to offer some similar deals on replacing hardware as Mac does. For $300, you can get everything in your Mac replaced. So if your logic board fails, you can get it replaced for $300, as well as anything else that has failed, hard drive, wireless card, RAM, graphics. All for just $300.

I wish I would have had that with the PC for all the hard drives I went through.
10-25-2009, 10:17 PM
Ronin

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Originally Posted by Phil3070

I wish I would have had that with the PC for all the hard drives I went through.

Good Hard-drives have a 5 year guarantee...

As just about any laptop doesn't have that, you won't have the same kind of HD's in there.

Think about it.
You are making your own probs again.
10-25-2009, 10:46 PM
timeb0mb

I find it funny how macs constantly try to bring Windows down by demeaning it, yet Windows is doing perfectly fine and hasn't retaliated. Lol. PC > Mac for almost everything.
Like others have said, if you don't know much about computers, get a Mac. If you want to get the most for your money, get a PC.
10-25-2009, 10:53 PM
ZormaX

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Originally Posted by Phil3070

This is not true. I know a ton about computers. I used a PC all my life until recently. I switched a Mac because it is the best for doing creative things. I'm going to be majoring in Cinematic Arts and I dabble in other graphic arts fields.

I tried to use a PC for video editing and I could not stand it. The only decent editing softwares you can get for a PC is Avid and Premiere. I couldn't get into using Premiere so I was using Avid. The problem was how awfully long it took to render and how often it would freeze and exit even though I had a PC with 4gb of RAM, 2.66GHz processing and NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics. (if I remeber correctly)

I know use Final Cut Pro on my MacBook Pro with half the RAM, same processing power and slightly better graphics and it works so much better.

Mac's may be simple, but that doesn't mean they're for people who don't know anything about computers. It's simply for people in creative fields.

If I was still a gamer, I would have kept my PC because gaming isn't Mac's thing. It all depends on what you're using it for.

Sony Vegas 9?
10-25-2009, 11:07 PM
IronyTaken

If you build your own pc each part usually has a good warranty on it. If any part malfunctions in that time you can send it back and get it replaced. My video card has a lifetime warranty.

If something goes wrong with my computer I can fix it myself I do not need to pay anyone do to it for me.

a 9400m is very cheap and low end. Today you can get many laptops ranging from 750 USD - 1000 USD which can handle games and video editing.

I found a 750 USD laptop with a 4650m. That is a pretty dam good card for 750 USD. Although laptops are always a bit expensive so the cheaper ones have less powerful hardware.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI...0.13883.0.html

A 9400m is in the middle of class 3 cards while a 4650 is close to the top of class 2 cards.
10-25-2009, 11:32 PM
Paladuck

Usually the Apple commercials bashing Windows are pretty good, but this one was weak.
10-25-2009, 11:34 PM
V-Opolis

eh i dont like Mac just cuz of these commercials... they are -1 customer cuz of their childish commercials.
10-25-2009, 11:56 PM
Phil3070

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Originally Posted by ZormaX

Sony Vegas 9?

Vegas doesn't have the power, effects and or filters I need.

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Originally Posted by KellionBane

You're getting ripped off if you're paying 300 to replace a part. Because they'll just replace that one part and put everything else back, and if more than one part is dead, they'll just used refurbished parts to fix it. Meaning you're going to have to shell out another 300 a few months down the road.

1 tb drives are around $100, wifi cards are like 100 bucks, ram is 100 bucks, graphics tend to be onboard. Logic board? Hate to burst your bubble, but Macs don't have logic boards, they use Intel Motherboards.

And if you're buying a mac, you're paying too much for a recycled product (Refurbished).

It's not $300 per part. $300 is the maximum they'll charge you. If it's just a wireless card, they'll charge around $75 for parts and labor. RAM they'll just charge you $70ish for the part. Easy enough to install yourself. The $300 thing is if you're Logic board is shot and your wireless card is dead and everything is shot too, they'll only charge you $300 to replace ALL of it.
10-26-2009, 12:25 AM
Ronin

Use blender.

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$75 for parts and labor

Loool, a pcie laptop wifi card probably costs them less than a dollar.
10-26-2009, 12:31 AM
V-Opolis

the more middle men you cut out the cheaper it is...
10-26-2009, 12:40 AM
IronyTaken

Anyone noticed how before 2006 macs weren't talked about as much. I mean sure they had popularity still but now everyone thinks they are classy for owning a mac when all they did was just buy some overpriced hardware.

If you know enough about computers you can build and repair your own. The individual parts will each have their own warranty.

Most of my computers I have had little to no problems. My newest build from 2007 is left on practically 24/7 and the only thing I need to work on was cleaning out some dust.

I am not arguing that the Mac has a shit load of problems I am just saying the PC isn't full of problems either. They both get hardware and software problems. PCs are easier to fix by yourself and cheaper.

My last mac was in the late 1990s and yes it was working good but all my computers regardless of mac or pc are in good condition because I try to take care of them. Heck my 1988 mac still works.
10-26-2009, 12:41 AM
V-Opolis

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Originally Posted by IronyTaken

Anyone noticed how before 2006 macs weren't talked about as much. I mean sure they had popularity still but now everyone thinks they are classy for owning a mac when all they did was just buy some overpriced hardware.

If you know enough about computers you can build and repair your own. The individual parts will each have their own warranty.

Most of my computers I have had little to no problems. My newest build from 2007 is left on practically 24/7 and the only thing I need to work on was cleaning out some dust.

its prob the look...
10-26-2009, 12:43 AM
IronyTaken

darn it V-Op you quoted me when I was editing my post.

One of good mac vs pc ads that is anti-mac.
10-26-2009, 12:48 AM
Espada1

My computer teacher is a mac fanboy and I am also a mac fanboy.

macs are just superior to windows.

The only thing Windows have against mac is cheapness and the capabilities of gaming.
10-26-2009, 01:01 AM
Phil3070

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Originally Posted by IronyTaken

darn it V-Op you quoted me when I was editing my post.

One of good mac vs pc ads that is anti-mac.

I've honestly never had a single problem he talked about.
10-26-2009, 01:02 AM
Espada1

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Originally Posted by Phil3070

I've honestly never had a single problem he talked about.

Because the video is incredibly bias.
10-26-2009, 01:15 AM
IronyTaken

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Originally Posted by Espada1

Because the video is incredibly bias.

It is supposed to be biased, it is making fun of Mac ads.

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Originally Posted by Espada1

My computer teacher is a mac fanboy and I am also a mac fanboy.

macs are just superior to windows.

The only thing Windows have against mac is cheapness and the capabilities of gaming.

Please tell me what a mac can do that a pc can't?

Please show me a better mac priced at the same as a pc counterpart.

Please show that you actually know a thing about computers.
10-26-2009, 01:28 AM
Soren

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Originally Posted by Espada1

The only thing Windows have against mac is cheapness and the capabilities of gaming.

and thats the best reasons to get a pc over macs. Plus win7 fixed my laptop sleep mode problem. Vista would always restart my computer unexpectedly when i put it to sleep mode. Win7 solved that and im really happy about that.
10-26-2009, 01:30 AM
jazero1987

window beat all OS in gaming computer, and can run alot different programs. the reason window get virus because there tons programming software let you make your own program

the only reason mac cant get virus because apple company make sure no one can create program on there OS. that mean no open source programming and hard to get program
10-26-2009, 01:32 AM
IronyTaken

The things windows have over Mac.

Cheaper hardware: price ratio
You can build your own with many parts to customize
More software support
Easier for DIY things

Things mac has over windows

ummmm.....ummm....
10-26-2009, 01:40 AM
Xenthydos

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Originally Posted by IronyTaken

Macs are for people who know very little about computers.

If you are one of the people who do know a lot about computers then a PC is easily better in all areas.

I agree on this 100%.

I just love how Mac Advertises like this..just slamming Windows.
10-26-2009, 01:50 AM
jazero1987

mac can crash and get virus 2 lol
10-26-2009, 02:08 AM
jazneo

window can run anything. mac cant lol
10-26-2009, 03:40 AM
Espada1

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Originally Posted by IronyTaken

It is supposed to be biased, it is making fun of Mac ads.

Please tell me what a mac can do that a pc can't?

Please show me a better mac priced at the same as a pc counterpart.

Please show that you actually know a thing about computers.

Lol, please show ME that you actually know a thing about computers.

Macs are more secure than Windows. From what I heard Mac can't get virues or any malware, spyware. True, there are some that exist for Macs but you actually have to install them inside your PC to get infected.

(heard it from some that computer geek Admin here at ONRPG)

Mac>PC in terms of social work

PC>macs gaming

And I like the Mac theme and the anesthetic. IT is wayyyy better than PC.
10-26-2009, 03:51 AM
jazneo

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Originally Posted by Espada1

Lol, please show ME that you actually know a thing about computers.

Macs are more secure than Windows. From what I heard Mac can't get virues or any malware, spyware. True, there are some that exist for Macs but you actually have to install them inside your PC to get infected.

(heard it from some that computer geek Admin here at ONRPG)

Mac>PC in terms of social work

PC>macs gaming

And I like the Mac theme and the anesthetic. IT is wayyyy better than PC.

mac cant get virus because it not open source. that mean it can do less thing then Window can do

window has virus because people are able to make program easier and get free compiler programs to make them

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