Why are gamers the worst consumers on the planet?

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11-21-2009, 06:01 AM
Elegy

Why are gamers the worst consumers on the planet?

Copied from elsewheres, and it made perfect sense to me (sadly) D:

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It makes no sense to me, why the **** would you be a "Fanboy" of one system and then pay out the other systems and it's games?
Why would you argue about "The PS3 version has 2 less FPS than the Xbox360 version" then go on and defend companies that actively go out of their way to screw you over and give you less features than the norm (at a higher price point) for more profit?

Why don't gamers want more features and benefits in their games? if I'm paying 60 dollars for a game that probably didn't even cost a few million to make, why is my sense of "Entitlement" such a bad thing?

Movies cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make, their market is now smaller than the gaming market and they sell their products for ****ing $10.

Modern Warfare 2 - 40 million dollars spent on it by Activision (Budget hollywood movie)
$550 million opening week.
$69 dollar retail.

The Dark Knight - 185 million dollars spent.
$158 million opening week.
$16 dollars retail.

And yes, I understand you put a lot more time into a video game. This is purely in a monetary sense, so keep that out of here.
11-21-2009, 06:03 AM
Sakumo

Makes sense, but if you think about it, with DLC(PC) you pay $50, but get to use it for like a year, which cost the same as 5 view of the same movie, which last about 1-2 hours, I'd say a game is more worth it, assuming you have the platform, of course.
11-21-2009, 06:04 AM
Orpheus

"go out of their way to screw you over and give you less features than the norm (at a higher price point) for more profit"

Ta-da! Piracy!
11-21-2009, 06:04 AM
AioshiKoun

So ur mad that games > Movies? XD

Besides games that sell as well as MW2 are hardly made now.
11-21-2009, 06:09 AM
Sakumo

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Originally Posted by Orpheus

"go out of their way to screw you over and give you less features than the norm (at a higher price point) for more profit"

Ta-da! Piracy!

Ta-da! Jailed and fined $25,000! But seriously, $50 for a good game and you're complaining, a movie, I suppose since they have worldwide sales. Games are generally centered around the area it's released.
11-21-2009, 06:11 AM
AioshiKoun

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Originally Posted by Sakumo

Ta-da! Jailed and fined $25,000! But seriously, $50 for a good game and you're complaining, a movie, I suppose since they have worldwide sales. Games are generally centered around the area it's released.

Not to mention its for every game sold! :D
11-21-2009, 06:12 AM
Orpheus

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Originally Posted by Sakumo

Ta-da! Jailed and fined $25,000! But seriously, $50 for a good game and you're complaining, a movie, I suppose since they have worldwide sales. Games are generally centered around the area it's released.

Oh? That happens in your country? Too bad.
11-21-2009, 06:15 AM
cinderboy

Surprise~!

Brad Pitt has bought the rights of a Capcom game to be made into a movie.

http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/11/...eo-game-movie/

Ain't he a shrewd businessman :D
11-21-2009, 06:17 AM
gloomba38

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Originally Posted by cinderboy

Surprise~!

Brad Pitt has bought the rights of a Capcom game to be made into a movie.

http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/11/...eo-game-movie/

Ain't he a shrewd businessman :D

That sure came out of nowhere.
Let's make a movie for a remotely dull looking game that isn't even out yet! I see nothing wrong with this plan!

(the "remotely dull looking" part is purely my opinion, of course)
11-21-2009, 06:21 AM
AioshiKoun

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Originally Posted by gloomba38

That sure came out of nowhere.
Let's make a movie for a remotely dull looking game that isn't even out yet! I see nothing wrong with this plan!

(the "remotely dull looking" part is purely my opinion, of course)

That game reminds me of GTA. (not IV which was the only good 1) Where the only fun thing is driving in the vehicles and going off ramps, while in here its just flying around randomly in a jet pack you dont even get until like mid game
11-21-2009, 06:21 AM
Bacn

Nobody stands up for a better life anymore. We rather spend a ridiculous amount of money on something that was half-assed. If it was up to me everyone would pirate games and then buy them if they felt the developers deserved the money.

As far as the price between movies and video games gos, video games last a lot longer then movies do. A good movie will last an hour and a half. A good game will last around 10-40 hours(although companies seem to feel like seeing just how little they can get away with nowadays).

And while we're on the subject, why the hell did you guys let 3 Resident Evil movies get made?
11-21-2009, 06:21 AM
Elegy

People really love to understand posts before raging.

I said the post made sense in monetary terms. Ugh.

IE. we pay less for something that costs several times more to make.
11-21-2009, 06:22 AM
cinderboy

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Originally Posted by Bacn

And while we're on the subject, why the hell did you guys let 3 Resident Evil movies get made?

4th one coming, its the 1st of a new trilogy apparently.
11-21-2009, 06:23 AM
AioshiKoun

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Originally Posted by Bacn

Nobody stands up for a better life anymore. We rather spend a ridiculous amount of money on something that was half-assed. If it was up to me everyone would pirate games and then buy them if they felt the developers deserved the money.

Thats how i am with the music i get. If i really liked the band id get the album even if i had to import it.

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Originally Posted by Elegy

People really love to understand posts before raging.

I said the post made sense in monetary terms. Ugh.

In my defense that text wasn't even that clear
11-21-2009, 06:26 AM
Elegy

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Originally Posted by AioshiKoun

In my defense that text wasn't even that clear

How much clearer can it get :(
11-21-2009, 06:27 AM
Bacn

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Originally Posted by cinderboy

4th one coming, its the 1st of a new trilogy apparently.

And to think, all the time and money spent on that movie could be used to remove that stupid inventory menu and Sheva from Resident Evil 5.
11-21-2009, 06:28 AM
Elegy

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Originally Posted by Bacn

And to think, all the time and money spent on that movie could be used to remove that stupid inventory menu and Sheva from Resident Evil 5.

Or a better control system.

*hides behind a flame ******ant wall*

:|
11-21-2009, 06:30 AM
Sparks Kincade

This is true for Games, Movies, Books, etc

Squeals do better than Original IPs.

This holds true to adaptations and remakes. "Oh Jurassic Park the book sold 20 million copies? Lets make a movie we already have 20 million tickets sold."

Money makes the world go round 99% of the time, even more so in a down economy. People don't want to risk their dollar on something new when they know what they are getting with a squeal.
11-21-2009, 06:31 AM
AioshiKoun

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Originally Posted by Elegy

Or a better control system.

*hides behind a flame ******ant wall*

:|

Cuz apparently standing still while shooting "zombie" hordes is life like and makes you epic. XD

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Originally Posted by Sparks Kincade

Money makes the world go round 99% of the time, even more so in a down economy. People don't want to risk their dollar on something new when they know what they are getting with a squeal.

Shoot, this isnt the case for movies. For games if def is
11-21-2009, 06:33 AM
Elegy

What?

I meant the over the shoulder crap. I gave up on it around 20 minutes in after playing at a friends house, it was just stupid. I don't MIND over the shoulder, but it just didn't work for that game IMO.
11-21-2009, 06:34 AM
Sparks Kincade

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Originally Posted by AioshiKoun

Shoot, this isnt the case for movies. For games if def is

Ummm.. what?

I work in the Film Industry and most of what we make is a remake, retelling, pure squeal, or reality.
11-21-2009, 06:34 AM
gloomba38

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Originally Posted by Elegy

What?

I meant the over the shoulder crap. I gave up on it around 20 minutes in after playing at a friends house, it was just stupid. I don't MIND over the shoulder, but it just didn't work for that game IMO.

I take it you weren't an RE4 fan either?

I didn't care for it at first, but I eventually got used to it.
11-21-2009, 06:37 AM
Bacn

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Originally Posted by Sparks Kincade

Money makes the world go round 99% of the time, even more so in a down economy. People don't want to risk their dollar on something new when they know what they are getting with a squeal.

But when sequels are made the vast majority of the time the sequels are horrible. Sure, some sequels such as the original Star Wars trilogy turn out well, but it's all to common that companies crank out a shameless sequel only to make money regardless of the movie's actual quality yet people still go and see them. Was there anyone out there who actually thought the 3rd Matrix movie would be better then the 2nd or has pattern recognition been lost on our generation?
11-21-2009, 06:39 AM
pikaqiu

most games arent even worth the money these days. There are no new concepts at all. They're all the fuggin same. Just wrapped up and packaged with better graphics = + another $10.:D just my opinion. Also most sequels to older major successes in the gaming industry suck. Look at AoE 3. And... CoD WaW. I thought fighting the Japanese in the pacific would give a diff call of duty feel.. make it more exciting and fun.. NEW.. but NO.... They game failed to make me play it for more than 3 days cus I got sooo bored of it. After playing most games these days u get bored. I was never bored of new games in the early 2000s. Perhaps I've seen every genre.. Idk.
11-21-2009, 06:41 AM
Sparks Kincade

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Originally Posted by Bacn

companies crank out a shameless sequel only to make money regardless of the movie's actual quality yet people still go and see them.

That was my point. That's what we do
11-21-2009, 06:46 AM
Bacn

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Originally Posted by Sparks Kincade

That was my point. That's what we do

But why do people keep doing it when they could easily watch something else or save their money?
11-21-2009, 06:47 AM
cinderboy

*hugs my full pokemon game collection*

Its my godamn money ~!!!! >:(
11-21-2009, 06:49 AM
gloomba38

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Originally Posted by cinderboy

*hugs my full pokemon game collection*

Its my godamn money ~!!!! >:(

Relax cinder; no one's here to take your pokemons away.
[:
11-21-2009, 07:00 AM
Elegy

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Originally Posted by Bacn

But why do people keep doing it when they could easily watch something else or save their money?

Curiosity. All of my friends went and watched Dragonball:Evolution just because it was Dragonball. I didn't because I knew better.

Sparks comments are the prime reason why I rarely pay to watch any movie. Everyone is always like "ohhhh you gotta pay for it because soooo many people worked on it and their jobs depend on it". When they are telling people that they release shit just because people will stupidly shell out money for it, it makes me GLAD that I pirate movies.
11-21-2009, 07:15 AM
Sparks Kincade

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Originally Posted by Bacn

But why do people keep doing it when they could easily watch something else or save their money?

If we all saw the 1st film we are already invested in the characters, storyline, and the world of the film in general.

If the movie is something new that we've never seen before we don't know the rules of the universe or what to expect.

As for the spending the money, movies have always been a means to escape reality. Our homes for the most part embody our realities, so getting out of the house and going to a movie is part of the escape we always seek. It's also a social experince that we can share we friends of loved ones we go with.

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Originally Posted by Elegy

Sparks comments are the prime reason why I rarely pay to watch any movie. Everyone is always like "ohhhh you gotta pay for it because soooo many people worked on it and their jobs depend on it". When they are telling people that they release shit just because people will stupidly shell out money for it, it makes me GLAD that I pirate movies.

Okay hold up.

We don't just shell out shit because we want to get paid. If I wanted to do that I'd work for Troma (though they do camp better than anyone). There is a lot of effort put into most of these films, and even if the main character of a movie the explosion, that takes a lot of time and money to pull off.

We make this 'shit' because the big wigs at the Studio figure their is a market for it, and some Director has a vision of how the script will come together.

We make it, because you say you want to see it.

A great movie to watch that tells with this a little bit is a little jem called "The Kid Stays in the Picture." A biopic about Robert Evens one of the great producers of our time. If you are interested in the film industry at all, I recommend it.