Do you think the additional downloadable FREE content for EA's games Dragon age and Mass effect 2 are a way to fight piracy without punishing everyone (IE, securom)
To me i think it is and personally it works, what about you?
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Do you think the additional downloadable FREE content for EA's games Dragon age and Mass effect 2 are a way to fight piracy without punishing everyone (IE, securom)
To me i think it is and personally it works, what about you?
It just saves the pirates effort to search for it. Nothing more.
My friend pirated Dragon Age and was able to get more DLC and content for free than I, who own the game legally.
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Originally Posted by Alivada
Because, their are more MW2 players on console for a start. Combined with how many CoD fans boycotted MW2 due to non-dedi servers amongst many other aspects that were not implemented.
The fact remains, MW2 sold far more on console. So less do some maths (sorry if this seems patronizing).
PC Sells 100 Units - 15% is pirated = 15 units Pirated.
Xbox Sells 1000 Units - 3% is pirated = 30 units Pirated.
you see what i mean? The player base for MW2 is FAR higher on Xbox 360 and thus, even if a lower % pirate the game, the total unit value pirated is still far higher. And in a business world, piracy is determined by COST (or Loss Of Potential Earnings *LOPE*).
MW2 is just one example, and stands out, dont get me wrong, games get pirated far more on PC than console, but dont be under the misconception that their is a "small problem" in regards to consoles.
hate to say this, but id reckon that within the next 10 years, their will be no such things as console/pc gaming seperation. It will all be consolidated and Pc's will be used for work related aspects and creative aspects.
I don't see a problem with this unless I won't get a keyboard and a mouse to play with.Quote:
Originally Posted by kitchens****
Make it like a Guild Wars registration. Notice how GW is B2P then F2P, yet Pirates can't play!
;/ All I had on my mind about this.
But the problem with your figures is I think it's a lot higher than 15% I reckon it's closer to 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by kitchens****
So Xbox sells 1000 3% pirated = 970 sells. PC only 100 units shifted and even if only 15% is pirated they are only making profit on 85 copies.
I'm not stating the PC gaming is dead or should be, Steam goes a long way to stop piracy but the truth remains that if you want to make money sell exclusivly (or a timed release) on the console. Or change you buisiness plan, people complained a lot about the Sims 3 model but can you honestly blame them?
Lots of companies are trying new ways to stop pirating even going as far as giving the main game for free.
It's not pirateproof though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicked315
You CAN crack the system, everything you program can be cracked. The question is rather how long it'll take before it gets cracked.
So far, Arenanet/NCSoft has been doing a good job with Guild Wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnOwBunZz
Every game played will end up in a purchase sooner or later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alivada
Does anyone needs FUDs?
They are poison.
Lately i heard how some German ***** comedy director ran his mouth about how he hates being able to see his complete "work" on youtube for free.
That's right, free high quality promo right there and the dick wouldn't be anywhere near a cinema without it.
~+~
There are 2 things about the content industry that go widely unnoticed:
A) Production is so cheap, it's as good as free.
B) The profits are astronomical.
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Originally Posted by Ronin
I wasn't aware that millions of dollars to produce a PS3 game was cheap.
Please stop trying to find ways to justify yourself pirating stuff. Especially if your justifications are false.
Though Guild Wars is b2p, it is still an online game. IMO, online games are fairly easy to keep pirates out by using specific cd keys. However for singleplayer where internet is not a factor, it is a lot easier to crack and hack.
Yeah it costing Bioware £1 per DVD sold for there new MMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
But thats not including wages for development, management, Q&A and the ungodly amount of voice actors.
By your theory a game can't tank as they are so cheap to make.
Ever heard of keygens?Quote:
Originally Posted by Soren
The only difference with MMOs is that the keys are being monitored by the hoster, keeping the 'pirates' out more easily.
fine, i am a greedy cheap bastard who pirates games, and most of them are worth shit. (with that i mean, the game sucks balls), there are some diamonds in between though, like borderlands, i dled it for pc with the zombie island, i liked it so much that i got it for 360 with 800 points for the dlc, because i deemed it a very good game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arri
sure, there are a lot of hours, blood, sweat and tears (though lets hope those last 3 are only figure of speech) in creating a videogame, but as a costumer, i really don't wanna spend 60 euro's on a crap game, and lately, there are nothing but shitty games released (except for a few).
That's because its an online game you bucket D:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicked315
Steam is the best way to fight piracy I know many pc gamers who used to pirate every single game that came out (myself included) but then found Steam and their amazing sales and thought that paying $5-10 for a game that you can download off a dedicated server at your max speed is worth the money compared to some torrent or something that crawls along and you have no guarantee that the game will even work when it's done.
From Steam Calc (missing some games but just trying to make a point).
Found 77 Games with a value of
$1166.42 USD
Paid like $300 USD max thanks to sales.
Able to play MP, get access to community features and achievements and have all my games in one place, it was worth the money to me not to pirate those games.
Steam is a step forward in pc gaming, stuff like intrusive DRM is a huge step back because it does nothing to stop pirating and only annoys legit customers who have to watch how many times they install the game and find revoke tools so they don't run out of activations. Just ask the thousands of people who pirated the Borderlands DLC because they threw in some DRM under the radar when it wasn't even in the original game.
yes i heard of keygens, but its easy for companies to tell which ones are legit and which ones are false. for WoW, cd key is needed to make an account and its only 1cd key per account.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnOwBunZz
Thats why i said its easier to hack single player games that does not require to be online to play because its game company cannot keep track of what cd key you are using if it does not require you to be online.
But than you would have to provide content for your money, or they won't see any costumers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soren
However a 10 hours long single player shooter earns you cash worth half a year subscription.
1 legit guy will dl the additions, and crack them. And then deliver them all over the internet. Solves nothing =/
Have you played DA:O, because you need "points" to download Warden's Keep, and that's just as good as paying money for it; since I have no points I cannot get Warden's Keep.Quote:
Originally Posted by thedudesam
Ive completed DA:O i didn't need point's to get shale and (spolier) her mission's, i didn't need points to get blood dragon armour etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cy-Kill
there is never a 100% way to fight off piracy.
all these ideas are good. but people always find a way.
there is always a human flaw that can be found and used.
That came with the CE, although a former friend of mine bought the regular version and got lucky because it came with the armour & that rocky creature thingy.Quote:
Originally Posted by thedudesam
However, you do need points for DLC: Warden's Keep, and whatever other levels they come out with. However, the expansion that's coming out in a few months may give us Warden's Keep for free along with whatever the expansion is. Of course, the expansion you have to buy either in-store or online through Steam.