They're sick eh!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkald
It's too bad what's happening, in a land so metal... In America he would definitely lose the lawsuit cause of its general prejudice towards metal music, but maybe in Germany he'd have a chance.
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They're sick eh!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkald
It's too bad what's happening, in a land so metal... In America he would definitely lose the lawsuit cause of its general prejudice towards metal music, but maybe in Germany he'd have a chance.
This is why Death Metal musicians shouldn't become teachers haha.. same with Tomas Lindberg of At the Gates. Imagine he got in shit for fronting At the Gates all those years ago.. but then again it wouldn't happen in Sweden.
LOL well the teacher at my school was in his band, the one on the CD I play in the car, and they never said shit to him. Our math and science teachers went to see his shows too, and they're going to go see Slayer and Megadeth rofl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantom
its the idea that students will be persuaded into 'testing' it out. im guessin he had a ton of tattoos,piercing etc? teaching is a professional job and you cant have all that shit at professional jobs. I personally dont care, but people keep it old school and want a profession look for their child to see everyday. Not really an image i want my child to grow up with.
So you'd rather your child grow up learning to judge people based on appearance?Quote:
Originally Posted by V-Opolis
No, he didn't. You can see in this picture that he doesn't have any piercings and that his tattoos are easily covered up when he's at work.Quote:
Originally Posted by V-Opolis
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...h_1632363c.jpg
And it saddens me that you would judge a person's professional ability by his appearance. And what the hell is wrong with students "testing it out"?
Businesses do this all the time. My brother has a ton of tattoos and he has a hard time getting work.Quote:
Originally Posted by power_gamer_6
People just love to associate tattoos with bad behavior.
But eh what does that German man teach exactly?
as much as you guys want to deny it, looks mean alot in alot of things. on a personal level, looks are less important. on a business level, they are important.
someone with pink hair and skinny jeans will have a harder time finding a job than someone with a clean cut and suit on...
I'm fine with someone who does that. I just wouldn't want them teaching my kid. I'm sure a lot of parents feel that way.
But why? If he went around the school handing out pamphlets about how to get into Satanism or giving his students knives and telling them to see what's what in the parking lot, I'm pretty sure he would have been canned by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladuck
Because it reflects a certain kind of character? If my children's teacher went to a strip club every day after work and bought 3 lapdances, I wouldn't want my kids in that class either. Doesn't mean he's a bad teacher, or a bad person, or that he would ever encourage kids to do anything like that. But why take the chance? I'd never put my kids in any kind of questionable situation just for the sake of taking the moral high road.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSkald
It's the whole "not in my backyard" thing.
theres really no saying anything, all of yall wish the world was metal and only metal...so of course yall see this as fine.
teachers are looked up to usually too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladuck
Well, now this gets into the whole thing about how most death metal musicians (the ridiculously graphic ones, like this) use metal as a kind of release from their daily lives. You get to show up to a show and play or listen to the angriest music imaginable while surrounded by a similiar atmoshpere. I'd rather have my kid take his anger out that way than bring a gun to school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladuck
I'm sure this teacher, and many others, don't actually advocate that kind of violence. A lot of times (I'm not saying all, because certain church-burnings say differently) this kind of music is just seen as a fantasy; a horror-movie, if you will.
Well since he's a teacher it might have to do with the band's terrible songwriting
Interesting is, that all his albums are not, like many other genre bands indexed, but available and rated for 12+.
He had pretty solid personal differences with his superiors on the trainee post. He was giving classes in ethics and they thought he was not credible, or doing a good job overall.
He was definitely qualified, an academic and the state does not have the power to terminate his traineeships at all, before it runs out.
The situation would have been different, if he stood up and fought for it.
It's his personal decision.
I agree with Paladuck. I wouldn't want him to teach my kids.
It reflects a certain kind of character that I listen to metal? So what about people who listen to rap and hip hop? Even the "good" rap/hip hop? Is it different if they're listening to people singing about how many people they've shot, how much weed they smoke, how many whores they've slept with, or how bad their neighbourhoods are? Especially considering the fact that most of that shit isn't make-believe, like death metal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladuck
You people are incredibly prejudicial for gamers.
Tis still just music whether it's listening to it or making it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladuck
I just don't think a business should get into an employees personal life.
You're basically asking me give some kind of principled reason for why I wouldn't want someone teaching my kid, i.e. I don't want anyone that is connected to violence. But there is no bright line rule to apply. It's just based on what I feel about something.
I'm fine with a horror fiction writer and a reporter. A director would be fine, but not a director of porn. I don't want some gangster rapper teaching my kid and I don't want some guy who sings in a death metal band and has women covered in blood at his shows.
Is it prejudicial? Sure. Are there death metal musicians who would make great teachers? Sure. But let him teach some other class, and not the one my child is in. Everyone deserves a fair chance at work and happiness - even convicted felons, ex-drug addicts and satan worshippers. I just don't want my kids near 'em.
You're putting musicians in the same fucking category as convicted felons, drug addicts, and Satanists? You really are an idiot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladuck
"I don't want my kid taught by a guy who raps about f*cking women." - The guy with a kid.
Loving how ridiculous that is. You have a kid, dude. So, unless the stork dropped it off, I have to assume it's through f*cking.
Also, why don't you want an ex-drug addict teaching your kid? He or she is not teaching your kid about drugs, they're not on drugs anymore.
You can't expect us to take any of these claims seriously, man.
The bottom line is this: If you're worried about what your kid listens to or is exposed to, for fear of influence, then you're a crappy parent. If your kid listens to a musician before he or she listens to you, then you have bigger problems than a guy rapping about tapping some ***. Namely the fact that your kid takes a stranger's word over yours.
My parents raised me right. I never once took anything I heard in music or saw in film, literally.
And what's wrong with self-expression when it's not hurting anybody?Quote:
Originally Posted by girtrute
Also you implied that death metal was mainstream. And it isn't. Really, that's a laughable idea.