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well, a recurring answer about this topic from other publishers is that it costs A LOT to switch the infrastructure and billing system of a game from P2P to F2P.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cy-Kill
publishers have to carefully weight if the investment will pay off. Its clear that SOE thinks Vanguard isnt worth the money and effort, and are ok with leaving it as is...
I'm sure many will, like TF2. Anyhow, this is great news!Quote:
Originally Posted by ArcDevil
I'm not into PVP, so this game is definately not for me.
SOE said and I somewhat quote that SWG was not made into F2P because "The F2P model does not work" and yet they make PS2 F2P... LOLWUT
they are just a crappy host. I hate them since I played vanguardQuote:
SOE said and I somewhat quote that SWG was not made into F2P because "The F2P model does not work" and yet they make PS2 F2P... LOLWUT
They said they're not planning to change Vanguard into f2p game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cy-Kill
Plus (about Vanguard) I've read few topics about VG, read that there's a decent playerbase, downloaded the game - only 2 servers to choose from - EU pve and US pve, eu had population low, and us had medium, so even though im from EU I chose US... and I actually counted people online via some social tool - 270-ish. :(
Wow. Ruined the game before it even came out.
I hate F2P so god dang much.
f2p make more money then p2p company now of daysQuote:
Originally Posted by ApocaRUFF
what MMO company makes more money than Blizzard or NCSoft? and Im not taking about percentages or ROI, Im talking about $$$Quote:
Originally Posted by xBlazex
the (finantially) most successful MMOs were, definetly are, and will be (for a while at least) P2P
Tbh i agree that p2p is maybe seeing a decline ppl are no longer willing to pay to play basically, dont bash me on this but i come from wow played 5 years loved the game, but now theres fairly decent f2p games on the market.
Im currently playing Atlantica Online new content just came out and um rehashed wow content ppl dont wanna pay for that anymore.
All im saying is everything comes to an end even the greatest per se.
I just wanted to add something extra but did anyone see the new worgen racial mounts "joke" wow has ended blizzard know that there outta ideas and content
and all the original developers are gone sad but true.
Oh yea p2p fps they all worked so well didn't they.
nexon high quaity f2p games in the market there close to blizzardQuote:
Originally Posted by ArcDevil
perfect world company they bought Cryptic and made them make only f2p games
I agree blaze i played wow for 5+ years and was happy with the content i got, but i been away for a good while now and can see the real market i probably agree p2p games are gonna die and i respect GW2 for there b2p model i still
have my old account i hop on with all expansions.
Blizzard = $4.44 billion Operating RevenueQuote:
Originally Posted by xBlazex
Nexon = $878 million Operating Revenue
Perfect World Co. Ltd. = $2.42 billion Operating Revenue
Blizzard is nearly twice as big as PW and more than five times bigger than Nexon...
now, lets look at that numbers, shall we?
Blizzard only has 1 MMO, World of Warcraft. other than that they sell game boxes for warcraft, diablo or starcraft series.
Both PW and Nexon have more than 1 MMO, more than 3, more than 5...(Nexons has what? dozens?).
Summed together, they have a hell, a FRIKING hell more players than WoW does
yet sill, they make less money
why? why they have FAR more players but make FAR less money?
because F2P games make less money than P2P games
He's not talking about revenue hes talking about enjoyablility.
@ArcDevil
And how the market has changed as regards to p2p f2p.
no idea honestly, you would have to hit nasdaq.com search and sum all P2P companies together, then all the F2P companies, and do that for 2008 2009 and 2010 to see the trend.Quote:
Originally Posted by loksie
Im bored but not THAT bored ;)
i prefer p2p too but ill play the game anyway since ive been doing planetside 1 for so long, i never reached the max level but i did get both BFR units doing that insanely large quest for them lol.
u needed a BFR Imprint imprint which is 5 Cavern Captures and getting 75 unique kills inside the caverns. and thats just for the basic BFR, to get the advanced flying model u needed to get 100 whooping kills with the basic bfr and after that a kill streak of 15 to qualify for the Invader BFR xD it was a nightmare but it felt so good once i managed to do it lol. to bad they removed the quest at some point so yeah now everyone can get a stupid BFR and my work feels for nothing :( lol.
It's SoE, expect P2W.