RoM vs DDO vs allods

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09-12-2012, 05:52 PM
SqueezyTime

Population: DDO
Teamwork: DDO
Least pay2win: DDO
PvE: Allods
Character Design: Allods
Classes: Allods

Imo, all three of those games are terrible, but that's just my experience with them. Out of the 3, Allods was the least crappy, until the game turned into nothing but grinding repeatable quests.

WoW may win in population for p2p MMOs, but not only is it dropping more and more every day, over 50% of WoW's playerbase is in China alone. As far as the rest of the features, based on my own experiences, The Secret World, TERA, Guild Wars 2, Rift, Final Fantasy XI and Aion (which is now f2p) were so much better.
09-12-2012, 06:31 PM
Rya.Reisender

Well, thank you. :-)

Allods isn't such a bad game, actually it's one of my favorites too. But I mainly played it alone. Pretty much 95 hours alone and 5 hours in a party, but it was still enjoyable for me. The population is below average, but you can use regional chat for free, so for boss quests I usually could find a group by asking in regional chat for 10-30 minutes. So it wasn't really a problem. But I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who looks for party play.

If you are going for DDO I still recommend going for it with at least one friend. I personally organized myself a group before even starting to play and it was an amazing experience for me, because our group just worked perfectly together and had all the required classes to reach all secret passages (when one group member quit, we all quit because it wasn't the same, but I don't regret a single minute I played it because it was just so much fun). I can imagine that if you play a non-Rogue, non-Cleric class that it might be a bit harder to find a group if you are alone. If you are a Rogue or Cleric and have a friend who plays whatever of the two you didn't choose, then everybody will jump on you to join though, lol. And many dungeons at least on Easy and Normal difficulty can be done with just two anyway (note: as free user you need to unlock higher difficulties by beating the lower ones, DDO also offers a monthly subscription, if you are subscribed you can access all difficulties and all dungeons without buying the expansions in the item shop, I personally preferred just buying the expansions - because they are permanent in that case - though and unlocking the difficulties myself).

Also: Inform yourself about builds BEFORE starting! The ruleset is quite complex, but it's also so well known that you will find a million guides for good builds.
09-12-2012, 06:49 PM
Entezio

Okie dokie I'll look up some guides!
I think I'll try to bring a few friends from the other game I played cuz all of my real life friends don't play MMORPG's except for like 4 of them but they play maple and WoW so they won't come QQ

When you were talking about buying the expansions do you mean you bought the monthly subscription or were you able to buy the expansions separately? Like buy a 20$ DDO card (idk if they even have those), and buy it with that.
09-12-2012, 07:23 PM
Drkdvl725

If you want least pay 2 win then take RoM off the list. RoM is strictly Pay 2 Win. They might as well have made it a P2P game since you cannot do much past lvl 50 without dropping a lot of money into the game.
09-12-2012, 07:34 PM
Entezio

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Originally Posted by Drkdvl725

If you want least pay 2 win then take RoM off the list. RoM is strictly Pay 2 Win. They might as well have made it a P2P game since you cannot do much past lvl 50 without dropping a lot of money into the game.

Yea, it's hard to believe I thought RoM was the greatest f2p mmorpg just yesterday. I'm not even going to consider trying it out.
09-12-2012, 07:39 PM
SqueezyTime

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Originally Posted by janii

Quote me till death rips me apart. Tera f2p soon.

I don't doubt it even a little bit. It's still more fun than WoW imo, just like Aion is, which also went f2p. Though, Aion went f2p for a completely different reason than the reason TERA will inevitably go f2p.
09-12-2012, 07:49 PM
charly1337

Runes of Magic is not pay2win, the whole game is built around the cash shop, you can exchange diamonds (cash shop currency) for ingame gold.
09-12-2012, 07:49 PM
DarkAztaroth

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Originally Posted by SqueezyTime

I don't doubt it even a little bit. It's still more fun than WoW imo, just like Aion is, which also went f2p. Though, Aion went f2p for a completely different reason than the reason TERA will inevitably go f2p.

I played both of those game for a few hours each and quit... No clue why for Tera either... In the case of aion it was just a slight lack of polish that annoyed me (The way NPC works / the cast bar disappearing before the cast and a few of the animations annoyed me)

Anyways WoW has an expansion pack coming out the 25 though, its normal for the population to drop beforehand since pretty much all you do now will be pointless on the 25, except maybe farming gold/achieves or lvling new characters.

You seem rather agressive towards WoW, I have to admit to lvling being a bore, but the high lvl dungeons/raids and PVP are fairly entertaining. (Atleast enough for me to keep on paying my sub)
09-12-2012, 07:56 PM
queenvoo

i havent played WoW or Allods

Population: In DDO i just like standing on a high spot and watching lots of little players currying below. each area is instance based and the commmunity areas have about 3+ instances. i never fail to see players scurrying about and its like a nice vibrant city. (the npcs also are very colourful). in DDO, i never have problem finding quest parties. the quest partying menu is always ul l of people asking for players to join them. (maybe for f2p it gets less easy to find a quest party at higher levels but its not too difficult).

Teamwork: DDO is the most team oriented PvE mmo ive played. This means you cannot survive higher mob quests without careful teamwork. DDO is a hard game in that way - you really do need to learn how to play your character and you should xpect to die occasionally. also curious, not everything is known about the end game bosses and not everyone knows the same tricks. so its fun to run with a group and compare notes on how to kill bosses/complete the quest.

Least pay2win: DDO does not have credible pvp so you can't really pay to win in pvp. u can pay to get very strong in PvE but not obviously so.

PvE: not bad in DDO. The biggest(?) boss is a massive typical dragon (tho not quite as large as L2's dragon i suspect). the other monsters are very varied and fun (elementals, giants thingies etc). DDO is tough in PvE, and it is enjoyable to survive.

Character design: DDO is a very beautiful game. ok characters can't be customised to the same extent as say Champions Online but... the artwork and dedication to the atmosphere and characters really shows. TTurbine worked really hard here and it shows. But... I would not put it above the standard of top asian art mmos like Silkroad or Perfect World.

Classes: typical DnD classes. but they really make them count. A rogue character is extremely useful in quests and very fun to play because a rogue can solo some quests by being stealthy.
09-12-2012, 08:02 PM
SqueezyTime

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Originally Posted by DarkAztaroth

I played both of those game for a few hours each and quit... No clue why for Tera either... In the case of aion it was just a slight lack of polish that annoyed me (The way NPC works / the cast bar disappearing before the cast and a few of the animations annoyed me)

Anyways WoW has an expansion pack coming out the 25 though, its normal for the population to drop beforehand since pretty much all you do now will be pointless on the 25, except maybe farming gold/achieves or lvling new characters.

You seem rather agressive towards WoW, I have to admit to lvling being a bore, but the high lvl dungeons/raids and PVP are fairly entertaining. (Atleast enough for me to keep on paying my sub)

I have good reason to dislike WoW. They just kept making it more casual with every expansion. I just got fed up with it. I got a resto druid to lvl 76 by sitting in Dalaran, queuing for dungeons and buying gear in the AH every 5-10 levels. There is nothing left to the game more than dungeons and pvp. It may as well be an instanced game without the open world.

PVP was the only thing I found entertaining, back when there was only Warsong Gulch and Alterac Valleys that took almost an entire day to finish and actually felt like a war rather than a quick little skirmish. Then that went to shit. PVP isn't really my thing anymore, though, so I had no reason to keep playing the game.

Having played Aion and TERA both for only 1-2 hours is hardly enough to judge them, since at that point you haven't done anything more than beginner/tutorial area stuff, but if you don't want to play it then you don't want to play it. Everyone has different tastes.
09-13-2012, 03:30 AM
qweazdak

Population: can't tell, haven't played either in a long time
Teamwork: Tied, they all need teamwork to progress
Least pay2win: DDO (restricts content to balance)
PvE: DDO (instanced based)
Character design: Allods (gibberlings is one of the most unique races in MMOs)
Classes: DDO (DnD classes)
09-13-2012, 07:36 AM
Rya.Reisender

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Originally Posted by Entezio

Okie dokie I'll look up some guides!
I think I'll try to bring a few friends from the other game I played cuz all of my real life friends don't play MMORPG's except for like 4 of them but they play maple and WoW so they won't come QQ

When you were talking about buying the expansions do you mean you bought the monthly subscription or were you able to buy the expansions separately? Like buy a 20$ DDO card (idk if they even have those), and buy it with that.

In DDO you can get access to expansion in two way:
Subscription ($10 per month) - You have access to all expansions as long as you are subscribed. If your subscription ends, you lose access again.
Buy Expansion (~$3-5 per expansion, which if I remember correctly always includes a bunch of dungeons) - You get access to that expansion permanently, even if you are not subscribed. It will never expire. You can unlock the whole game permanently for around $150.

And yes there are $20 DDO point cards you can buy at GameStop. I'm not sure if you can pay subscriptions with DDO cards (those might require a credit card), but the expansions in the item shop are bought with turbine points which you get from the DDO point cards.

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Yea, it's hard to believe I thought RoM was the greatest f2p mmorpg just yesterday. I'm not even going to consider trying it out.

Yeah, for some reason you stumble over RoM easily when you are looking for the highest quality F2P MMORPG. With the knowledge I have now, I can't even understand how it can be so popular. It's worse than Allods in every single aspect and yet Allods is so much more unpopular. Well, I guess the reason for Allods's low population is its history of being the most P2W MMORPG ever. They lost many players because of it and even though they fixed it for PVE at least, they never really recovered their player base. PVE players are scared off by the forced PVP and the PVP players are scared off by the strong P2W in endgame PVP. It's really a shame.