EverQuest Next (Discussion)

So is this(and landmark) the next line in EQ games or a bit of a...what's the term..branch off? Uh like is this basically EQ3?

Either way I'm gonna try it for sure

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Originally Posted by Senseos

looks like a WOW killer,im sure it wont be F2P ;O

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It's SOE so it won't kill WoW.

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Originally Posted by TreyTrey12

Looks too much like planet side 2.

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Oh noooes. I better not play, because Planetside 2 is totally NOT the awesomest thing in existence.

I'm more interested in EQ NEXT Landmark

Minecraft community is going to love this.
You can build anything you want with Voxels, you can shape the materials to anything you can imagine.

But yeah EQ NEXT Landmark keep eye on this thing when it comes out, you will see some crazy stuff ever created...

Hopefully they keep the MMORPG aspect of the game. Unlike what they did to the Planetside franchise. A great mix of RPG/Shooter elements into a BF3MMO.

Who do I gotta suck up too, to beta test this.

Looks phenomenal... Kind of reminds me of Fable.

I want to cry. This game looks amazing.

A lot of people are worried that the "weapon skills" will be a problem like GW2, but if people would listen and watch, it seems like what skills your weapon has will be different based on luck, or who crafted it.
Personally this alone makes crafting worthwhile, a lot of games it just isn't worth it a lot excluding the utility ones, like potion crafting and enchanting

Well it is F2P. We'll have to see what they do with those Station Coins or whatever their called, I don't know much about SOE's history with cash shop shit... hopefully they don't ruin it.

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Originally Posted by Havox

Well it is F2P. We'll have to see what they do with those Station Coins or whatever their called, I don't know much about SOE's history with cash shop shit... hopefully they don't ruin it.

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If its like anything I've played which is mainly DCU. They'll charge for content updates although I'm alittle hesitant about the "put your shit on display and charge others to use it" business. But eh, it's their choice so if it bombs then it bombs.

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Originally Posted by Havox

Well it is F2P. We'll have to see what they do with those Station Coins or whatever their called, I don't know much about SOE's history with cash shop shit... hopefully they don't ruin it.

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I kinda hope this time around that SOE opens up Everquest Next with a hybrid F2P model involving premium account types which would - among other things - give players a more detailed tool set for creating things in the world. In my opinion, as long as the game isn't developed like a streamlined MMO, then giving players a little boost wouldn't have too much of an effect on the entire world.

I'd be fine with a premium system that could do things like give people a more wider array of building items (or ability to get special building items such as a monthly premium currency allowance that could be used to buy special building materials. xD)..

Looks really impressive and promising, wasn't expecting too much seeing I'm not a huge everquest fan but this looks like something I would try for sure.

Really like the graphic style too seeing I usually play anime inspired games it has that type of feel and not such a serious realism feel which I don't really like.

This game looks promising! Totally going to give it a shot, so far it looks very dynamic which I like, I hate static MMO's.

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Originally Posted by Arri

You mean giving players a small handful of skills that they'll use all the time instead of hundreds of skills that'll never be used because only 3 are considered the "meta" or best?

They didn't go into the combat system much, so there's not much to say until we learn more.

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no, tying skills and weapons together is ridiculous.
and e.g look at everquest 1, 2, wow, archeage etc. - they all have A LOT of skills that are constantly used.
a small handful of skills is never the way to go in an mmo, i want to be unique - i don't want to be like everyone else in the game.
and even so, in gw2, some weapons are completely useless and are never utilized.

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Originally Posted by Candyholic

no, tying skills and weapons together is ridiculous.
and e.g look at everquest 1, 2, wow, archeage etc. - they all have A LOT of skills that are constantly used.
a small handful of skills is never the way to go in an mmo, i want to be unique - i don't want to be like everyone else in the game.
and even so, in gw2, some weapons are completely useless and are never utilized.

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I agree, I hate that skill/weapon system in GW2 that EQN is gonna use too.
But I'm still eager to try it out and see for myself :P

This is no longer an EQ game ... Just some different mmo using its name -.- .

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Originally Posted by Seya

This is no longer an EQ game ... Just some different mmo using its name -.- .

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what
they're keeping it hardcore and the everquest aspect of exploration and risk/reward is still there.
what's not everquest about it? they haven't even revealed a lot about the game - only the core gameplay.

exactly , what ive read about it till now , i hate it XD

only thing i like is the destruction

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Originally Posted by Arri

I'll play the devil's advocate here and say that there's no way they're going to be able to deliver on all their promises. As much as I want them to and as much as I want a game that has what they're promising, there's no way it's going to happen. Their "fully destructible environment" will probably be broken down into certain areas only, and only with certain abilities/only if a boss uses a certain ability, and their public quest system is going to be dumbed down into having a single path instead of "multiple random paths and the clear condition changes each time so you never know what will cause the event to change to the next phase!"

OR people will whine that it's not a WoW-clone, and the game'll slowly but surely be turned into yet another generic gear grinder game.

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Naw, we're going to over hype it and get disappointed.
I already saw a the "Wow-killer" statement.

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Originally Posted by Candyholic

no, tying skills and weapons together is ridiculous.
and e.g look at everquest 1, 2, wow, archeage etc. - they all have A LOT of skills that are constantly used.
a small handful of skills is never the way to go in an mmo, i want to be unique - i don't want to be like everyone else in the game.
and even so, in gw2, some weapons are completely useless and are never utilized.

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As I posted earlier it was hinted crafters play a roll in what skills weapons will have...but we won't know what thats means til later.
hopefully it will be something like a fair size pool of skills vs what gw2 did.

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Originally Posted by NeoJaz

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I was kinda hyped until seeing this, is it me or the movement and camera looks clunky ?
(especially the camera)

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Originally Posted by DarkAztaroth

I was kinda hyped until seeing this, is it me or the movement and camera looks clunky ?
(especially the camera)

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It's all tech demo, so unpolished.

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Originally Posted by Acreon

It's all tech demo, so unpolished.

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Well on the bright side, the video with the combat and bosses looked pretty awesome.
(and wtf the big monster destroying the castle xD)

TBH I was hoping for something along the lines of EQ2 though, so now I understand better their change in name for the game.

Oh... and ... that has to be the funniest picture I've seen in a while:
http://oi39.tinypic.com/rkd6zd.jpg

XD I loled so hard when I saw that XD

Nice! Combat reminds me of dragon nest. and action MMO's do allow for some uniqueness based on the playstyle of the player and their preferences. Examples: Lunia, Lost saga, Elsword etc.
Sure some skills are just so strong that they are hard to just skipp but its not as though there is no freedom of decission at all.

I knew it looked like something I've recently played.

Touchlight, it looks like Touchlight. But third person...

There we go, found something I disliked:
Multiclassing, I've always hated the system and they decided to add it. That's great... Now where's the fun in raids that I once had in Everquest.

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Originally Posted by Heartyace

I knew it looked like something I've recently played.

Touchlight, it looks like Touchlight. But third person...

There we go, found something I disliked:
Multiclassing, I've always hated the system and they decided to add it. That's great... Now where's the fun in raids that I once had in Everquest.

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There's barely any info out yet, don't get your knickers twisted so easily.
Wait until there's adequate info to truly judge. Shit we don't know what happens when your character dies let alone how multiclassing works, armor functions, and what have you.

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Originally Posted by Acreon

There's barely any info out yet, don't get your knickers twisted so easily.
Wait until there's adequate info to truly judge. Shit we don't know what happens when your character dies let alone how multiclassing works, armor functions, and what have you.

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Nothing good has come out of Multiclassing, and I don't hate the game cause of it.
I just can't see me switching classes in an MMO. They did however confirm it will be there, so...
I don't respect it multiclassing at all.

Closest I got to it was Wushu, and I had the whole of 3-4 extra skills from other schools.

Edit: Naw, he explained it pretty well. Switch classes at any time, Find new classes use them, apparently different from all other games. Seems pretty basic. I don't like.

Edit edit: I just wish they took it out... Everything else seems so amazing... I'd rather Class progression where I'd just be able to randomly meet a Knight as a warrior (Unrelated to any story quest) and be able to train under him. Not as a quest, but someone that'd hover over you and say you've done good. Be like Tales and learn double demon fang at random.

Yeah, not really digging the art style.

Had however many years of WoW's toon style, not really looking for the same but prettier.

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Originally Posted by Cingal

Yeah, not really digging the art style.

Had however many years of WoW's toon style, not really looking for the same but prettier.

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Pretty sure they went for a lighter style because it's easier to optimize for computers young and old, especially what with the voxel system they're using I'm to assume it's to not make the game niche simply due to spec requirements.

Just a guess though, maybe they just wanted to keep it light out of preference.

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Originally Posted by Acreon

Pretty sure they went for a lighter style because it's easier to optimize for computers young and old, especially what with the voxel system they're using I'm to assume it's to not make the game niche simply due to spec requirements.

Just a guess though, maybe they just wanted to keep it light out of preference.

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Nah, apparently the reason for the art style was purely artistic choice. I mean, they've already got some insane optimization if they hope to roll out a game that is voxel based and has amazing graphics like this does. One of the devs mentioned in an interview that the choice was made because it looks good and games with more stylistic character models age better. IE - ten years from now when we have photo-realistic graphics that are nearly impossible to tell from reality, people can't look back at EQ Next and go, "Ha! What crappy graphics they had!" because people can then go, "Well it was an artistic choice, not like they did it because they were limited."

Some more info on the character classes, builds, and weapons.

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Originally Posted by Jermatoo

Some more info on the character classes, builds, and weapons.

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You beat me to it =<
I love his anti-mage description
Stupor strong against magic"

After watching that, I'm moderately more accepting of the system.
He explained it as "Building your own class"
What I hoped for was more class related progression, So you'd learn something depending on how much you swing your sword instead of throwing magic.
What they gave was you immerse yourself in the world, as you progress through and meet a certain requirement. You unlock such and such.
But now thinking about it, that way gives more reserved (People who just don't fight as much) a way to progress.
Alright, I accept it.
Ty Jermatoo and Acreon for the links.

I straight up like the graphics/animation though. It's like Fable/Touchlight had babies.

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Originally Posted by Heartyace

Nothing good has come out of Multiclassing, and I don't hate the game cause of it.
I just can't see me switching classes in an MMO. They did however confirm it will be there, so...
I don't respect it multiclassing at all.

Closest I got to it was Wushu, and I had the whole of 3-4 extra skills from other schools.

Edit: Naw, he explained it pretty well. Switch classes at any time, Find new classes use them, apparently different from all other games. Seems pretty basic. I don't like.

Edit edit: I just wish they took it out... Everything else seems so amazing... I'd rather Class progression where I'd just be able to randomly meet a Knight as a warrior (Unrelated to any story quest) and be able to train under him. Not as a quest, but someone that'd hover over you and say you've done good. Be like Tales and learn double demon fang at random.

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They don't force you to multi-class, and we don't know enough information to judge whether sticking with one class or not is beneficial. The point is to play how you want to play. I think its a cool idea if executed well. A dream for an altoholic like me.

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Originally Posted by ApocaRUFF

Nah, apparently the reason for the art style was purely artistic choice. I mean, they've already got some insane optimization if they hope to roll out a game that is voxel based and has amazing graphics like this does. One of the devs mentioned in an interview that the choice was made because it looks good and games with more stylistic character models age better. IE - ten years from now when we have photo-realistic graphics that are nearly impossible to tell from reality, people can't look back at EQ Next and go, "Ha! What crappy graphics they had!" because people can then go, "Well it was an artistic choice, not like they did it because they were limited."

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Certainly makes sense, I know I myself prefer stylized


also they confirmed the 'holy trinity' is still overall in effect.
holly trinity being tank, healer, dps for those of you unfamiliar with the term.

Is it just me, or do the screens and whatsoever make it look like how the early GW2 screens looked like?

So what I ehard about the holy trinity is apparently wrong.
Someone who went to the class panels put this up
http://www.reddit.com/r/EQNext/comme...he_panel_pets/

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Originally Posted by ASNZern

Hopefully there are more than 4 Weapon skills per weapon, and we can choose which 4 to use.
Otherwise I'm gonna be quite pissed.

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It seems to me it's like GW2 in that sense. You'd have numerous weapon abilities (which you'll be able to unlock I assume) and you have to choose 4 (and can switch them around) to use at one time in your skill bar. The character abilities would be the same.
{{{This is all hypothetical and not fact.}}}

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Originally Posted by Viney1

It seems to me it's like GW2 in that sense. You'd have numerous weapon abilities (which you'll be able to unlock I assume) and you have to choose 4 (and can switch them around) to use at one time in your skill bar. The character abilities would be the same.
{{{This is all hypothetical and not fact.}}}

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From what we know so far, it sounds like how a weapon is crafted affects:
it's damage(duh)
damage type
what skills it affects
(possibly) what skills it possesses