SafeDarfur.org

"Darfur has been embroiled in a deadly conflict for over three years. At least 400,000 people have been killed; more than 2 million innocent civilians have been forced to flee their homes and now live in displaced-persons camps in Sudan or in refugee camps in neighboring Chad; and more than 3.5 million men, women, and children are completely reliant on international aid for survival. Not since the Rwandan genocide of 1994 has the world seen such a calculated campaign of displacement, starvation, ****, and mass slaughter."

SafeDarfur.org is a website that will educate you on the Darfur Crisis, an incredibly huge problem that is not advertised much on the media. Check it out and get educated on it. And you can possibly help too.

http://www.savedarfur.org

Its a nice site and everything, but its still in the wrong section. x.x;

Uhh...this is general. Im not doing a shameless promotion fool. This is a serious issue and i want people to be educated on it. I stumbled on the site today, and you can thank applegeeks for that.

yeah i don't think we will donate cash slade, plus how do i know its not a scam?!?!?

lol

Anyways if the governments around the world cared they would just invade the country and settle it down. But nooo they don't care because they won't gain a profit from helping people in darfur. So bottom line slade nobody in the outside world will or is going to help people the people in darfur.

If you really want to help people you don't give them a check, you go yourself to sudan and do something about it. More likely pick up a gun and fight. Thats how atleast i see it.

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Originally Posted by Danke

yeah i don't think we will donate cash slade, plus how do i know its not a scam?!?!?

lol

Anyways if the governments around the world cared they would just invade the country and settle it down. But nooo they don't care because they won't gain a profit from helping people in darfur. So bottom line slade nobody in the outside world will or is going to help people the people in darfur.

If you really want to help people you don't give them a check, you go yourself to sudan and do something about it. More likely pick up a gun and fight. Thats how atleast i see it.

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When was Iraq ever profitable?

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Originally Posted by Slade

Uhh...this is general. Im not doing a shameless promotion fool. This is a serious issue and i want people to be educated on it. I stumbled on the site today, and you can thank applegeeks for that.

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I'm a fool? Just because this is general doesn't mean you can post things thats should be in other sections. And tell me that your post didn't sound like you're promoting something. -.-

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Check it out and get educated on it.

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Originally Posted by Xynh

I'm a fool? Just because this is general doesn't mean you can post things thats should be in other sections. And tell me that your post didn't sound like you're promoting something. -.-

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Oh please. Don't do it really.
If what you said is really true then posting any link should be in shamless promotion which totally defeats the purpose of discussion. I don't see what you do with links if you don't "Check it out"

I've heard about this project somewhere, it is not a scam I think, (well most likely it isn't) but I was really shocked that there was so much violence that was not make known to the world.

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Originally Posted by Fieren

When was Iraq ever profitable?

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Iraq was meant to be profitable, but as you know the us/west influence in iraq failed terribbly.

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If you really want to help people you don't give them a check, you go yourself to sudan and do something about it.

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Agreed.

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Originally Posted by FabianN

Whats going on? Everyone seems to be having "that time of the month"...

Chill.
This is not shameless promotion. It does not benefit him in anyway, it's not his site.
He is simply sharing it with everyone and encouraging people to go there and try to help.
And Danke, most of the rest of the world is helping, the US is the only first world country that isn't really helping.

This is one of the worst events in human history. Children, younger then any of you, are being ***** and tortured over there.

This is Genocide and it really needs to be stopped.

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Please explain to me, why should US help every single country in need? In no way am I saying anyone should be a victim of those atrocities but it's rediculous to think that USA should be held accountable like the father of the world to step in whenever something goes on. You give me the idea that you think US is the scum of the earth but then you expect US to do everything.
Then US spends billions of dollars to help and next week you will be complaining about the deficit. What the hell do you expect of America? How many times has America helped other countries? How many billions(/trillions) of dollars does US pump into foreign governments/medical research(AIDs)/etc,etc,etc every year?

This isn't the place to be posting for donations. However, the education is necessary and I'm not rejecting that. Majority of OnRPG.com is most likely under 21. Best any of us could do is help the community we live in. Not to mention not everyone on OnRPG.com is American. I've already looked into it before, tragedy, but there are tragedies going on everywhere. I'm not saying US should let it go but seriously, people expect FARRRRRRRRR too much of the US and then they just go and say how corrupt it is.

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Agreed.



Please explain to me, why should US help every single country in need? In no way am I saying anyone should be a victim of those atrocities but it's rediculous to think that USA should be held accountable like the father of the world to step in whenever something goes on. You give me the idea that you think US is the scum of the earth but then you expect US to do everything.
Then US spends billions of dollars to help and next week you will be complaining about the deficit. What the hell do you expect of America? How many times has America helped other countries? How many billions(/trillions) of dollars does US pump into foreign governments/medical research(AIDs)/etc,etc,etc every year?

This isn't the place to be asking for donations. However, the education is necessary and I'm not rejecting that. Majority of OnRPG.com is most likely under 21. Best any of us could do is help the community we live in. Not to mention not everyone on OnRPG.com is American. I've already looked into it before, tragedy, but there are tragedies going on everywhere. I'm not saying US should let it go but seriously, people expect FARRRRRRRRR too much of the US and then they just go and say how corrupt it is.

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Not to debate about everything else, but I agree with you on that bold. I hate the countries that view us like that.

Well the usa has their own problems to deal with endless. Hope you didn't forget theres already a war going on for years. Theres also the occupation in iraq, which has been disasterous. Trying to liberate a another country whose government does not want any outsiders interfering will pretty much declare war on sudan. So that adds another war the us has gotten into. Also the fact that getting into this war will cost a lot of money and lives, which us citizens will pay for with blood and money.

Your better off getting china liberating sudan than the usa at this time or ever.

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Ladies and Gentlement, this is the definition of a third world country

There have been many civil wars in that region for a long time, and is an ongoing war. The southern sudan mainly christians are trying to sucede from sudan composed mostly of muslims. The government will not allow that to happen. I'm positive there is corruption and strictness in the government and they will take out anyone who tries to rebel. Ladies,Gents, this is a ****ing third world country and every one of them does this from a small scale to a really huge scale like in darfur, israeli-palestinian conflict, the entire serbian region with russia, hell even che in s.america. A checkbook won't help, but people who are willing to fight and I mean fight for what they truly believe in can only make a difference. If you guys want to go complain about whats happening, don't because i highly doubt you'll truly do anything to fix this conflict. What you want is for a total reform in a nation's government and well how do you expect that? 1. War 2. Rebel. I for one do not want to do either.

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To learn more about why this is happening heres a link on wiki

Second Sudanese Civil War: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sudanese_Civil_War

Darfur: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict

i advise read second sudanese civil war

Don't worry Danke, I know there is a way going on. But I think America puts a little too much money in the food industry. People here are complaining that their burgers are too fat, or this French Fry doesn't taste good. People constantly waste food. As your parents have probably said 'You should be glad you have something. There are kids in Africa with nothing'.

I'm just saying doing something is better then doing nothing. We might have our own problems to deal with, but that doesn't mean we can't help out the needy.

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I totally agree, but US DOES help other countries. I'd probably surprise myself if I researched it. I also didn't say I don't think US should go in and help but you can't just say, "well I want to help" and rush into it blindly. It takes a whole lot more thinking than that.

I was just making an argument because it's like US is a country that tries to do things right, screwing up sometimes along the way and that's all everyone sees and doesn't appreciate what US does accomplish. Yes, US is probably corrupt and has it's own agenda, but you don't focus in on that all the time, because not everything is apart of the agenda. US helps this world out ALOT. I would like to see US do something but I just don't want them to rush in and screw things up or cause more problems for US and Darfur itself.

All these jokes about Americans too. Americans do a lot for their country and towards donating to Red Cross(And other funds) for foreign relief. Should do a bit of research.

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I'm sure that most Americans don't know what the government is doing. They just see all the bad things America is doing because of the press. When they see that, they feel that America is a bad country. I'm proud of my country, but that doesn't mean I need to be proud of what the government does.

People say bad things about America, but they think that America should help other countries. Why? Because they see those needy people, and would like to help.

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And I don't think the other Nations SHOULD ask the US governmant. Darfur should. And if my friends and family were being massacred for what we believe in and look like, I would be grateful for foreigners to bring us out of it.

Weren't you the one blathering on about picking up a gun and fighting is the best help? You sound like a Shogun.

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The Sudane' government does not want any outside involvement with the darfur conflict.

What i previously quoted was : If you really want to help people you don't give them a check, you go yourself to sudan and do something about it. More likely pick up a gun and fight. Thats how atleast i see it.

You don't fix decades worth of killing with cash. And if one truly wanted to stop this then they need to actually do something about the darfur situation.
I never said that government should do this and that.

I don't understand what you meant that i sound like a shogun (general?). Not like i'm telling people to fight, i'm just saying that theres not point on trusting organizations with your money that will be wasted on something else.

As for contradicting myself, i never did that. What i said was there are some things at fault for the american people because they elected a president that represents all the american people. If that president is bad that reflects how other people view the american people.

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Really, Arucard, whats the fun of defending our own country's reputation when he's contradicting himself?

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I didn't agree on going over there and fighting. I agreed on going over there to help if someone wants to help, not send money. Sending money to African countries has failed many, many times.

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Originally Posted by Danke

The Sudane' government does not want any outside involvement with the darfur conflict.

What i previously quoted was : If you really want to help people you don't give them a check, you go yourself to sudan and do something about it. More likely pick up a gun and fight. Thats how atleast i see it.

You don't fix decades worth of killing with cash. And if one truly wanted to stop this then they need to actually do something about the darfur situation.
I never said that government should do this and that.

I don't understand what you meant that i sound like a shogun (general?). Not like i'm telling people to fight, i'm just saying that theres not point on trusting organizations with your money that will be wasted on something else.

As for contradicting myself, i never did that. What i said was there are some things at fault for the american people because they elected a president that represents all the american people. If that president is bad that reflects how other people view the american people.

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Most of America never met Bush in person. We never had the oppurtunity to sit down, and chat with him, see his personality, judge his smarts, see if he was a good person in general. We got what the media got. Dont blame us completely.

Organizations? Not all of America is corrupt and political necktied. I dont consider the the Red Cross as an organization. They're a godsend gift for all human beings alike to me. I can bet money many Marine's dont like what they're doing, but it's their job, their JUST doing their job. If I could get anything in the world right now, the first thing I would start is a message to every other "American Hate" bandwagon country is "Sorry, we ****ed up, we picked a bad president, we should have stayed neutral like our forefathers said. It's bush, not us."

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Sending money to African countries has failed many, many times.

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That's a truth that has been ignored so many times its unreal.

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organizations with your money that will be wasted on something else.

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We have the law for that.

And you did contradict yourself. Your first post encouraged more bloodshed, and somewhere above you discouraged the idea of troops? It's quite confusing argueing with you.