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You only have PCI? and yet u just listed a PCI-E card taht u want to buy...
Incorrect, well somewhat.Quote:
Originally Posted by mercuryami
The 1550 and the 1300 have cards for PCI and PCIe
Main reason why they do this, some people are still using PCs that only have PCI.
Only difference in the 2 (PCI & PCIe) is the "backwards" bridge hardware within the PCI, since you need to be running it at X4, rather than X16.
But the speed really doesnt matter when it comes to players looking for a graphics card just for MMORPGs, it would matter if you were concerned about Benchmarking or FPS.
Please put forward some research before posting, its really easy to do. Afterall, you are on the internet
Id advise getting a new computer before getting that x1550 or the phsx, but get the x1550 if youre gonna get a new card.
And why is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Eyes
He says he is looking for a better graphics card for MMORPGs.
ATM, with the PC specs I have read about. He does not need a new PC for what he wants to do.
My son can use a Dell 2400 with 1GB memory for most MMORPGs out there. ATM, it only has a ATI 9250 in the PC. So he is limited in what games he can play by the shader tech within the card. I am going to place a X1550 or X1300 in it here soon. So then, he will be Up-to-date. Even with 10.0.
i have the same comp o.O except i dont have 1 gigz ram and that video card. anywayz wats kind of video card slot is in dell 2400? (cause i just might buy a better video card and make it 2k ram instead of buying a new comp)Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber7chink
how do i know how much shader my video card has? i raelly dont know..and also could u guys psl help me search some cheap and best good video card for my comp?
i only have 150$..so..yea.
i think i should just get x1300
this:
http://www.diamondmm.com/X1300PCI256.php
ur video card shader is probably 3.0 (u and my cousin have the same video card)Quote:
Originally Posted by jh0n9
which can make guildwars lagless though?
Radeon X1300 256MB PCI
OR
Geforce 6200 128MB PCI
Thx..Pls Reply..
USE THAT 150 $ TO GET A NEW motherboard...PCI=crap on stick
Asd also X1550 is the same as the X1300 they just renamed and relaunched it >_>
ummm.i dont wanna buy a motherboard..cuz i dunno how to replace one..and my dad will go hysterical..lol hell get mad for sure..
cyber is dell 2400 is pci or agp?
vash..mern akong isa pang comp Dell Dimension 2400 ren..PCI lng yan..pero ok ang memory max..hanggang 4Gb..lol..
IN OTHER WORDS
vash..i have another comp which is Dell Dimension 2400..It only has PCI..but the max memory it can have owns..its upto 4Gb..lol..
I hate messengers really, cause of this one I got that links me to the main office.Quote:
Originally Posted by jh0n9
The X1550 is good, but remember this. Yes a fast memory clock might sound sweet, but how hot do thing get where the PC is? Read some reviews about the card. It has a decent fan from what I read. BUt why would you want that? Your only playing MMORPGs right?
Its good for FPS and benchmarking, but you really dont need to worry about that. with all the pros and cons, the X1300 looks to be what you really want.
Personally, I want this one graphics card that costs over $2k. BUt its only sold to gaming developers. Its basically a huge graphics card in a box that links to more than one PC through firewire. Its really sweet, but my wife would kill me....... it would take away from her shoppin cash.
PCI, unless they have different upgrade models, but the ones I have come across are all PCI.Quote:
Originally Posted by *vash_the_stampede*
4 gigs? Hmmmm, dual channel? See Vash, like I siad, sometimes they have models that have different set ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by jh0n9
Dual channel is nice to have in a PC. ID you cant afford ones that take DDR2 memory, then get a PC with dual channel capability.
Vash, if your is like my son's, it has 2 slots and max it can hold is 1 gig. BUt thats still sufficient with a decnt graphics card, which your looking for now.
u think x1300 would really improve my lags in guild wars? cuz i kinda lag wen lookin at those far places using geforce 6200..
thanks for the info cyber and jh0n9 u guys help me alot ^^
offtopic: O.o john ur a flip too XD
ur lazy.. thats ur job?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber7chink
imma work at construction wich is better then sitting down..
I wanna be strong and not lazy ;)
cyber u got any answer for my question?
hold on let me look if i can find a better card..Quote:
Originally Posted by jh0n9
bah x1300 is prolly the best card for $150 less..
PCI is shitty...
if u had PCI-e..
his not lazy. if he was lazy he wouldn't help people all over internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostUnit
if people work in computers , it doesnt mean that there lazy.
x1300 is better then 6200 but not alot..Quote:
Originally Posted by jh0n9
you will lag bad cuz X1300 is ati has AA , af on.. or auto..
cant turn it off... >_<
Well i know that but still.. sitting down all day...Quote:
Originally Posted by *vash_the_stampede*
But thats good that his helping people...
but IS easy anyway.. i never needed help with anything.
i guess he aint doing that good.. he always having warning...
Btw i would save for a computer
PCI-E is way better
the 7900GS cost $130...
and is 100000000 times better then a x1300 wich cost $120.
7900GS has 20 pixel , 450/1320 easy to Overclock.. i got it at 541/1320
while x1300 is so shiity >_<
i can play Guild wars on high... smoothly
What the heck? A Jobs a job, you do what your good at, just because hes sitting doesn't mean hes not doing anything, if everyone worked at construction sites then society would be doomed.Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostUnit
btw is there good nvidia card for PCI?Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostUnit
Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostUnit
LMAO, you assume alot.
I do sit a lot, but I also work out alot. Like I siad before, I do Judo, Kickboxing, and Jeet. I go to the dojo 3 times a week to spar and practice for amateur events in kickboxing. I do the events 1 time every 3 months.
1 warning last 8 weeks. You love to bring that up, but you never say much of anything else.
You dont really know much about PC. All you do is regurgitate information you find or get from your peers. BTW, ATI Catalyst Control Center has setting for AA and AF. They have variable slider going from X2 to X8 and other options as well,and yes it can be turned off, its called "let the application decide".
Anyone with a brain can find this out by looking it up. BUt you dont, nor do you try to research before you assume.
You are right though, by the minor "search" you have done about PCI graphics cards, X1300 and X1550 are the best ones you will find, but I think someone has said that already, without the hesitation.
You claim alot but deliver very little. Care to show us the benchmark scores on these cards. I mean all of the ones in this quote above. Like I said research before opening your mouth.
ONE MORE THING!!!!! My son's Dell 2400 ( P4 2.22Ghz, 1 GB memory, ATI Radeon 9250 256 MB pci with shader 1.2) runs GW with 20-30 fps on full setting including bloom. GW was built to be PC friendly too, you would have known this if you just researched.
You have not said much. Just regurgitation. Please try to bring something to the table that isnt a repeat.
Since you like to stereotype and assume. Construction workers are failures at anything else. Just the ex-jock from school who wanted to be "the star". What they cant solve with brain, they "mule out" with muscle........ just a bit of typical stereotyping that is said about most construction workers.
Sorry about that. From all that I have gathered about your PC, and you have lagg. You might need to clean things up more than get a new card.Quote:
Originally Posted by jh0n9
Try the software I have posted previously, first. They might help you out and you wouldnt need to use that $$ on parts. But if it doesnt, try the X1300. And if that fails, it may be just a problem caused by location.
1. try the TuneXP 1.5: follow the documentation instructions
try the WinCleaner Memory Optimizer: set it for every 120 min, maximize your memory, and minimize it. Keep it running.
if that dont work
2. Then go for the card, but keep those 2 programs, they help out in the longrun.
LOL..ghost..u wanna be like those illegal immigrant mexicans who work on constructions that get paid really low..
Wow, LMAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by jh0n9
i dunno how to work tune xp...could u help me out will a lil guide here..
I knew some of you were racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by jh0n9
Im Puerto rican not mexican
USa helping Puerto rico. so don't be racist... and also Puerto rican helping USA in war.
.
so yeah
no matter if ur spanish , etc ull still get paid same as others.
so don't be a ****** i trying to help u
I do know about PC.
cuz i bought Ati for my old pc and it was worst.
nvidia is good
I don't care whos racist or mess with me
is just internet.
but i wont let people talk to me like that in IRL.
i wanna see someone try.
How come so many haters and racist ???
I love everyone , im not a racist.
Like i said , im a nice person
i didnt do anything wrong here to make me a bad person.
lmfao wow i just skimming this Thread and watching cyber argue with people like he always does and then THIS MADE ME LULZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by jh0n9
Now i have to contribute to the topic or the nazi mods will warn me. So i say get the X1300 Why? Its 128-bit Memory Interface. My bro got a X1300 he is not happy with it he insist's his old 5200 Was better an less "buggy" i don't beleave a word of this but its a 2nd opinion eh.
Also LOL@ you for thinking PhysX was a Normal "graphics card"
Yeah go ahead and laugh i don't see it funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Afro-American
thats racist. i feel bad for latinos that get paid low in usa.
but gotta move on..
wont live for ever
but im going to college etc...
so go ahead and laugh.
wheres the latino at? in this forum to back me up? :)
So wheres the mods at?????
:( What do u mean tune?U cant oc a frickin X1300 thats like unpossibly possible
good thing i have an XT1300 536/836 XD. F.E.A.R at high is soo awsome :D
You have been stereotyping and assuming a lot in the past 3 threads. Not to mention you have made personal attacks on me several times.
You dont attack you say? Well, please set your hypocritical thought aside, and please think before you post.
Your bad experience with ATI is due to ignorance. Not the hardware. Its been proven. Especially when you claimed that ATI does not have any types of options for AA or AF except "auto" and "on".
Maybe if you read up on the ATI hardware you would know that its easier to manage the graphics if you had Catalyst Control Center. Eh, you dont learn, nor will you ever.
How come so many haters and racists? Its only your assumption that there are a lot. ANd look at your defenses kicking in, cause you got PWND, sure go ask for a mod. BTW, you got PWND by someone else this time.
Not bad....Quote:
Originally Posted by GM Meow
x1300 should be good for PCI...
but you can play free mmorpg fine
but some ati card are buggy...
bought a x1600 for my sis.. and the FX5200 was way better...
dude dont be racist, theres alot of illegal pinoys in america too -.-.Quote:
Originally Posted by jh0n9
BTW U WON THE FUNNIEST POST OF THE MONTH XD
I said Ati has AA , AF but you cant turn it off i think...Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber7chink
but what ever i would still choose Nvidia.. they own
but i don't think theres good PCI for nvidia..
And nah i was bored i guess.
i didnt talk crap.. i was saying wow has better graphic.
im not fighting with no1 on this forums
just typing. and talking clean ^^
and how i got pwned????Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber7chink
Im not a fighter if i was i would say something and pwned anyone.
but im too nice... so i wont say anything... so those who wanna act cool can go ahead and talk crap to me... cuz don care.
Nobody is even laughing...
no1 even cares either...
theres only 3-4 people hating on me.
Ohwell im done.... plz stop being mean to me.... k. i said "plz"
Cuz ull never get me mad.. i never get mad... so nt
I swear iv seen a X1600 PCI version before. I saw it on newegg when i was card hunting a while back but it disappeared. That would be a much better choice if you can find it.
PS: GhostUnit I am not "hating" on you i merely thought that comment by john? was very amusing and out of nowhere.
I doubt you saw it as a PCI, since it is CrossFire ready card. Which means its only for PCIe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Afro-American
Anything is possible though.
I have been hearing rumors about 1 of the 2 major "graphics" companies creating a graphics system that has 3 cards, one for each axis. Whats funny is that its PCI. From what I understand its speed is phenominal cause of how it processes it. Instead of being X4 across the 3 cards, its X4 to the third power, which means its X64. I dont really understand how this is possible, but I dont think the "3D" card will be practical. Since things in PC tech is evolving, I dont see the PCI slot being much use in about 3-4 years. But who knows.
Now if this is true, and it can be applied to PCIe, then this can be a huge breakthrough in 3D tech. Since what they claim with the "3D" card is like "looking out a clean window". This would mean what we percieve to be 3D on our screen, would be much more like true 3D.
It wasnt really out of nowhere. GhostUnit began to stereotype me as being lazy since I am on the PC most of the day. So I posted a stereotype, and then another stereotype came along.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Afro-American
last one! lol...Ghost, u speak english real great man..lol..are u in ESOL Class? LOL..just playin..aight no more bullshits..lol..I JUST DONT GET IT!..u gusy tell me x1300 is good..now x1550 is better..then u would say i should stick with 6200..i dont get yall...OR MAYBE i should keep my $150 and try saving up to 300..and buy a new comp..but im too EXCITED!
300 $ comp o.O i dont think so.
Yup, they have some good deals at WalMart for PCs that have Vista.Quote:
Originally Posted by *vash_the_stampede*
The start from $298 up to $898, but no monitor.
I have built PCs for people before that would be about .5 to one year behind the newer models for just $400. It has no monitor and no OS, but you get 1GB memory (w/dual channel capability) and a decent video card.
@jh0n9
I would see if you can "tweak" your PC's performance before you buy a card.
Then go for the X1300, it has good reviews.
general advice, don't get a PhysX card right away. I haven't come across many games that really gain a lot of benefit from using PhysX. Besides, they stll cost about 200 Euros, which is a lot of money ...
Perhaps in 2009 they will become more commonly used.