Since like forever? Staff's gotten that crap for ages. I don't think it's totally my fault though > : 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arri
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Since like forever? Staff's gotten that crap for ages. I don't think it's totally my fault though > : 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arri
This thread is going to turn into a flame war you should have just locked it
Arri, if "abuse" means "enforcing the rules" then no "abuse" will ever occur at onRPG. The rules here are NEVER enforced, it's just "Oh you're not kissing my ass enough in this argument so I'm going to warn you."
Well if thats what you want to think, be my guest, but I suggest going over the rules instead of the easy way out
What I see, is that certain people get away with anything, while others cant do anything.
There has been several instances where another person would use "derogitory" or racial words, but have not been warned. There have been instances where personal attacks have been made, and no warnings have been administered. Me and several others have sent "warnings", but they fell on def ears.
TBH, you have too many admins and mods, and none of them care to enforce the rules when its needed. They only enforce them when they feel like it.
Also, I have had this warning well over 8 weeks. Why is it not removed?
It's like this.
We're the parents, you are the kids.
When was the last time that your parents enforced rules around you were you happy about it?
'Yeserday.Quote:
Originally Posted by FabianN
..you said kid and parents?
I LIKE CHOCOLATE MIIIILK!!!!!
-Cheese 28:4
:P oh thats good one ..mixing the bible and some ******ed charecter litterly from a cartoon i saw
haha
Anyway
i don like the fact where people are warned/banned for nothing ...im all for rules etc but if u cant argue to a admin for a reason whats the point in living ..you can tell your boss if something is wrong..do it here and ur smoked
but if u go all out abusing admins well u have it coming sucka
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Originally Posted by FabianN
That's what I was trying to say in my first post.
Thought stealer! <3
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Originally Posted by FabianN
http://psychologytoday.com/articles/...01-000027.html
You forget I was a mod since this site opened. I know how the moderation works. Most (more than half) of the moderators (myself included) just warned people who they didn't like whenever they got the chance. No one will admit to this of course, as they are still in power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arri
Exactly what I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoix
I wonder since when has the forum has been so dramatic around whos flaming who?
Its not used in a derogitory manner. Please think next time........Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint
We are all probably guilty of that at one time or another. After all we arn't robots. I always like it when people give thier opinions and views on a subject, but some prefer to be... doragatory rather than giving criticism. There is a fine line between flaming and criticism...Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoix
I really don't care if people are mad at me, but most of the time it's how they express it that just angers me. I probably did flame a member once or twice, but that was when this community was at its low point where a simple thread would turn into a giant flamewar that we would have to lock. I think the community we have now is getting much better. Sure there are fights and stuff but its all good. I mean I have seen a few debates go on for quite sometime without someone flipping out and getting the thread locked.
Just so you guys know, for the stuff I may have done in the past I may not have gotten physical warning, but I was... I suppose lectured by a few staff members who will remain nameless. So it's not like my actions went un-noticed. If you have noticed I have not done anything like that for probably a few months now. I still don't believe there was an "abuse" of power. If I really wanted to abuse my power... everyone in this forum would notice :eye:
All in all there are good ways to handle situations. What K-Rizzle did, I hope you all never do. Ban Dodging just to flame the site/people/ect... is really childish and highly looked down upon by the staff of this site, and I hope the members as well. I really do expect a lot from you guys, and your finally starting to live up to my expectations! Good job!
O_o What other usage is it from? Are you referring to a chick in your armour? Seriously, what do you think the first inference from your name is going to be?
See your taking as meaning as a derogitory word. It only signifies that I am asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint
Its how the word is used that makes it derogitory. Please learn that.
Here is a perfect example of it being used in a derogitory way.
http://www.onrpg.com/boards/46627-25/Quote:
Keyword there.... You admit what you did wrong. Flamming is nothing innocent if its against the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperJedi
Funny you claim racism against you, since you and your brother are the ones who like to throw the word ***** around in a racist way.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2...tpeopleym8.png
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Originally Posted by PaperJedi
Its just sad that you try to attempt that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperJedi
Heh. Still, how else am I supposed to take it? I mean black people say the N word but it doesn't mean it isn't a bad word.
Its like when black people call each other "niggas" right?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber7chink
Oh, BTW we are kind of getting off topic here... So get back on.
It's stuff like this that makes me not wanna go here anymore, idiots having a go at each other over a game (not you cyber).
Its like people flame nowadays for the sake of flaming, it's just tiresome, and if i had the power to do so, i'd make a difference around here.
cyberchink, the forums already keep a recourd of all staff activity, mod or admin.
And only the root admin, Gabrial, can delete them. Him, and him alone.
And so often do I get people that were warned by Sandman that come to me, but they rightly deserved the warning.
A good recent example was in a anime topic, someone posting something alone the lines of
"anime sucks and Bleach sucks"
He was warned for trolling. The member though, claimed that he was just joking and didn't deserve the warning.
Thing is, you don't go to a group of black people, call them niggers, and then when they start beating you up over it go "HEY! I WAS JUST JOKING!"
Whether or not you really were joking, it's just stupid and rude to behave like that.
And for people's information, I was the one that originally banned krizzel's account that he was ban dodging with for a simple reason.
You do not ban dodge.
If you are perme banned, and kindly contact us some time later(a month or two), depending on your offenses, we may remove the ban.
Ban dodging shows us that you have 0 regard for our rules and you will not be ever let back in.
Krizzle decided to ban dodge, and he was imedittly banned for that.
He was originally banned for flaming, which was simply due to his warning limit had been reached.
You break the rules enough times, you will get banned. Simple as that.
There was no "favortism" in it.
If you have been wrongly warned, do contact me.
I have gotten on nearly everyone's ass about a time that they warned wrongly or was behaving very poorly in the line of moderation.
(Saint can surely attest to this)
But, if you deserve that warning, I will tell you, and I will be more than glad enough to explain why.
I love how I was mentioned.
Your still not discussing the favoritism related to when justified reports are being made and ignored with specific community members.Quote:
Originally Posted by FabianN
Only time I have done reports is when its an obvious violation of the rules. And only 10% of them I have seen enforced.
Also, your only telling me half of what can be done. Its good Gabrial is the only one that can delete staff activity, but what about the cross monitoring of these admins/mods related to the times when these reports are posted?
Half is still nothing. Cause all you get is still imbalance. Its like a seesaw with weight one one side. There is nothing happening.
All? >.>;Quote:
Originally Posted by Pipster
And I don't think this thread would make it any better, honestly.
I don't really see any reason for it to be locked yet, because no actual flaming has occured imo.
I think that many of the mods lock any threads that seem to criticize them way too fast, and instead of trying to deal with problems, just come down hard on people who've offended them.
But those members who are going out of their way to piss off the mods for no reason aren't helping either, though I think they do (for the most part) have fair grievances.
Edit: This thread has nothing to do with talking about racism. Stop it.
Off the top of my head Sandy, Arri, and even Terrin once, would be added to that list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint
Now *****, if I understand correctly you are saying that reported posts are being ignored, right?
I myself have gotten many reported posts that were in fact not breaking rules. It was merely a personal confusion of what the post was saying/meaning, and in truth didn't break any rules.
Other times it's something like a brand new member that just bumped his topic. This is not allowed, but we do generally go easy on the newbies(depending on the offense). He's told to not do it, but not warned.
Those such posts are not warned.
If they do get reported and are actually breaking rules, I do make sure that the user is warned.
Now, from what I know I seem to only get the reported posts from sections that I'm listed as a mod to, but I'm going to see what I can do to get the reports from all sections on the site.
And monitoring of the logs is done when ever there is a problem, but what you seem to be talking about is monitoring when a report is sent out and when a mod comes in and sees the report, ect.
Reports are sent to our e-mail inbox, something that this site can not tell when we access.
All of our moderation activity that we preform upon this site are recorded though.
All of the admins (Me, Gabriel, Fabian, Roon, and Terrinblaze) can view what a mod does, and when s/he has done it. AFAIK staff activity is always logged and can't be deleted except with mysql commands. We also have a forum where all warnings are logged with the warner, and the original post. We also only soft-delete threads so we try in every way possible to back ourselves with evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber7chink
As for reports, only moderators assigned to a forum recieve reports from those forums. If you have a serious issue that isn't being delt with it would be best to PM a more active moderator or an admin. If you think a forum is not being moderated as well as it could be than PM and admin with your complaint. We will look into it and decide what needs to be done. We can always use user input to better the forum.
If you do think favoritsm is going on, please PM an admin and cite examples. I can't stress enough that if members are going to complain they should back it up with physical evidence, because otherwise its hearsay and we can try to do something but I doubt anything will come of it. So far I myself have never been PM'ed by a member about favortism, or bad moderation or lack of moderation. So I assume everything is moving along smooth.
Perhaps we should come up with some kind of ticket system that a user can fill out and it gets put into a database that the admins can look over... Would that work better than havin to take time to PM and admin?
Who is talking about racism? I am talking about how the meaning of a word can evolve with culture and society. Of course, you may not be talking about me.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowsworn
@Fabian
Yes I am talking about when justified reports are ignored. I do recall at one time someone went out of their way to make a personal attack on me in a post that was civil. I reported it, and nothing was done.
I do understand that specific admins/mods are assigned to certain sections. I dont think that should occur. It gives them control where others do not.
I agree with shadow all the way. I mean, part of the staff is so caught up in OTHER'S post counts, they count almost everything as spam. I mean, I remember when 'old OnRPG' did, "The Longest Topic", game. It was fun. If you tried to do it now, that thread would be locked before you could breath again.
Incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arri
If you are assigned to get reports from a specified section, while others have another section, this does mean you have more control of one section than other mods.
Since Fabian stated that not all mods get the same reports, this does mean what I say is true.
Argue, get mad, whatever. Fabian has said what happens when reports are made.
@Sandman
I am aware of what you are saying. I have been a moderator of a few games. I am familiar with the process. I was not aware how extensive your forums/monitoring was. I was going on assumption, that is my error.
A ticket system would be nice. Maybe when each report is sent, a copy can be sent to a new "inbox" labeled "My Reports" linked to our PM system. This way, we can have a copy and have proof of what we sent if nothing has been done. Kind of a "checks and balance" is a must.
Geez, I left this forum while it was in the middle of chaos two months ago to achive WoW nirvana (Man I love that game), and there's still argueing on the EXACT same subject? Come on kids, play nice. I've steamed off and I;m going to devoutly follow the mods. While arguing is fun, and some of you won't give up so easily, I just want this top stop. In any way possible.
On the note of racial slurs, I feel as if there's been an ijustice put upon the white people. Asians have the their word, Blacks have their word, but we don't have a racial slur for everyone else to call us? Poppycock! (great word) I'm going to start enforcing that white people greet each other as "Crackers". C'mon, fair's fair.
Also, this might sound a tad suck-uppery, but of all of the forum mods I've had to post under, Fabian takes the cake. 'Keep on goin' Fabian :)
Vendayn's moodswing was crazy lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakuza
I'm not bitter for my warnings or temporary ban. Gaurunteed i deserved it.