Why do you guys

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05-02-2007, 09:01 PM
Damague

Why do you guys

Hate God or think he doesn't exist trust me he does he has helped me alot but tell me why
05-02-2007, 09:06 PM
Vek

I don't hate God... I do have a bit of faith when it comes to certain situations. Luck is what I believe. >.>
05-02-2007, 10:06 PM
iMicro

I think god is fake. Same with jesus imo.(Sorry to those who are religious)
Btw there is a BC(Before Christ) and an AD(After Death) What did they call it when jesus was alive? Or was he born then he died a second after?
05-02-2007, 10:15 PM
Negrac

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Originally Posted by iMicro

I think god is fake. Same with jesus imo.(Sorry to those who are religious)
Btw there is a BC(Before Christ) and an AD(After Death) What did they call it when jesus was alive? Or was he born then he died a second after?

roman time periods, time was caculated diffrent befor the roman empire. They set a date, in which he LIVED and thats how they dated everything from then on.

To say god is a fake is saying that something that cannot be proven is fake, which is a unreasonable conclusion. Jesus, was a man, he did die on the cross, but was he the son of god? i belive so but thats up to you to decide.

and AD is not After death, its latin

Anno Domini (Latin : "In the year of (Our) Lord")
05-02-2007, 10:20 PM
Xynh

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Originally Posted by Inugami

I do not believe in what i cannot see.

Do you believe there is Oxygen? Hydrogen? Helium? Space? Carbon Diox-
Oh wait, you don't believe in anything you can't see.
05-02-2007, 10:23 PM
Negrac

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Originally Posted by Xynh

Do you believe there is Oxygen? Hydrogen? Helium? Space? Carbon Diox-
Oh wait, you don't believe in anything you can't see.

oxygen? thats a myth

good point, but do you belive in magic(in a young girls heart)[starts humming the song]
05-02-2007, 10:36 PM
onesbronson

Im gonna be straight up honest on this thread. I dont hate god and i 50% dont think hes real. Why, because it hard to pray to someone or something that u just cant see to believe they r real. All this religious crap goin on in the world is just for other people's beliefs. To some religions theres more than one god, in christianity theres only one. I prefer to live my life to the fullest with only miracles from my actions, and not by praying. I been telling ppl alot that i would pray for their hardships and so on, but I can already tell the outcome is based on their actions.
05-02-2007, 11:11 PM
Riz

I believe God exists, but I honestly don't think he cares at all about many things, humanity included. Anybody thats seen "Bruce Almighty" knows my views on this fairly well. He simply watches, but does no affect anything. Think of it all as a test, if you will. That idea is one of the few reasons I'm still alive, actually.
05-02-2007, 11:12 PM
Negrac

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Originally Posted by onesbronson

Im gonna be straight up honest on this thread. I dont hate god and i 50% dont think hes real. Why, because it hard to pray to someone or something that u just cant see to believe they r real. All this religious crap goin on in the world is just for other people's beliefs. To some religions theres more than one god, in christianity theres only one. I prefer to live my life to the fullest with only miracles from my actions, and not by praying. I been telling ppl alot that i would pray for their hardships and so on, but I can already tell the outcome is based on their actions.

thats the way i live, people who devote there lives to god are ******ed, god never wanted us to be stuck up on worshiping him. thats what all the probloms in the world come from.
05-02-2007, 11:18 PM
onesbronson

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Originally Posted by Negrac

thats the way i live, people who devote there lives to god are ******ed, god never wanted us to be stuck up on worshiping him. thats what all the probloms in the world come from.

Amen to that dude! :)

That was exactly what i was thinking of, couldnt have said it better myself.
05-02-2007, 11:20 PM
Spirit

I just don't belive in him.
05-02-2007, 11:21 PM
Negrac

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Originally Posted by Spirit

I just don't belive in him.

it doesnt have to be a guy... :3
05-02-2007, 11:35 PM
onesbronson

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Originally Posted by Spirit

I just don't belive in her.

Think about it, take a second...:rolleyes:
05-03-2007, 01:32 AM
Damague

Well yeah i believe everything you guys are saying and stuff
05-03-2007, 01:48 AM
NINJADUDEv.2

OMG!! stop posing on this threadd!!! that guy's really an undercover christianity converter!! AHHH!!!! lol jk

back on topic...I dont believe in god. not that i hate him, but whenever i wished for something from "god" when i was a kid, i didn't get. So yah.

(i would definitely hate god if he was responsible for making the PS3 600 bucks though..xD)
05-03-2007, 01:50 AM
Damague

wow do you expect it to pop out of thin air you have to work for it
05-03-2007, 01:55 AM
Negrac

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Originally Posted by Damague

wow do you expect it to pop out of thin air you have to work for it

there commies. dont know the value of a $... and defiently dont know the value of 600$, i could get....alot of food for poor people with that.

i think
05-03-2007, 02:15 AM
Dreakon

Does God exist? Yes, in the hearts and mind of all those who believe in him/her. However, god and religion as a whole is just that... a belief.
05-03-2007, 02:17 AM
Negrac

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Originally Posted by Dreakon

Does God exist? Yes, in the hearts and mind of all those who believe in him/her. However, god and religion as a whole is just that... a belief.

and in life, belief is all we have.
05-03-2007, 02:23 AM
Dreakon

But it doesn't mean what you believe in actually exists. By that logic, I could believe a ham sub is our creator and watches over us and because I believe it, it's true.
05-03-2007, 02:27 AM
Who

im christian, but i still cannot believe how an old guy opened the red sea and walked through it and closed it back up. thats the only thing i almost dont believed.
05-03-2007, 03:12 AM
Dennis56

I don't believe in religion OR god i believe in evolution from that 1 cell that has been a proven theory by scientists. How the hell that one cell began we have to wait and see.

I prefer to think logically like a programmer.

In ancient times the geeks did not understand what lightning came from so they created Zeus and so did COUNTLESS other civilizations what makes us different? We don't understand how life began and other things so we made up god.

Was it him who helped you out or was it you? Your belief and thought that god helped you, made you stronger inside and made you do whatever it is. Everything is inside you sometimes you need belief and some hope to activate it. I personally have adapted and getting that inner strength by some other feelings, most likely you can to with practice. Concentrate on a person you love and to create emotion image that person in different ways for example image your loved one death and being tortured to get furious and raged.
05-03-2007, 03:22 AM
magicjubin

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Originally Posted by Dennis56

I don't believe in religion OR god i believe in evolution from that 1 cell that has been a proven theory by scientists. How the hell that one cell began we have to wait and see.

I prefer to think logically like a programmer.

In ancient times the geeks did not understand what lightning came from so they created Zeus and so did COUNTLESS other civilizations what makes us different? We don't understand how life began and other things so we made up god.

Was it him who helped you out or was it you? Your belief and thought that god helped you, made you stronger inside and made you do whatever it is. Everything is inside you sometimes you need belief and some hope to activate it. I personally have adapted and getting that inner strength by some other feelings, most likely you can to with practice. Concentrate on a person you love and to create emotion image that person in different ways for example image your loved one death and being tortured to get furious and raged.

Rofl you called the greeks geeks
05-03-2007, 03:23 AM
theultimate2004

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Originally Posted by Who

im christian, but i still cannot believe how an old guy opened the red sea and walked through it and closed it back up. thats the only thing i almost dont believed.

Prince of Egypt (Movie) ? Lols.
I am not into religious stuffs.. and I don't believe in GOd.
05-03-2007, 03:31 AM
Jeszus

I be leave in god, It would be hard not to also this picture comes to mind.....

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...5838159384.jpg
05-03-2007, 03:48 AM
Dennis56

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Originally Posted by magicjubin

Rofl you called the greeks geeks

What the hell do you mean....?
05-03-2007, 04:56 AM
FabianN

Lets face it, he's an asshole.
He watches us every moment of our lives, what ever we are doing. PERVERT!
Sends you to hell if you don't believe in him. What an ego *****!
He created us with natural drives and then required us to live in a state of constant deprivation.
He killed people left and right
And he was such an asshole to both Lilith and Eve, that womanizing bastard!!

All joking aside, I don't think god is real for the simple fact that there is 0 evidence supporting his existence.
Like lothia said, you CAN see Oxygen, Hydrogen, Helium, Space, Carbon Dioxide, and so much more. Just because you can't see it with the human eye does not mean you can't see it at all.
I'm a realist, plain and simple.

And this here pretty much sums it up. Long vids, but it covers anything you could ever come up with.
05-03-2007, 10:10 PM
Dennis56

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Originally Posted by Lionhart

I am agnostic, I see the value in all religions but I am not in a religion myself.

well i have someone like me. I don't believe in religion altogether.
05-03-2007, 10:27 PM
NINJADUDEv.2

God is Dead. We should all just wait for Godot. :D

(i hope you people know what this is)
05-04-2007, 01:20 AM
Damague

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Originally Posted by Deimos

im not even going to bother posting my opinion since nobody will read it and this thread will son be 14 pages long BUT

people need to STOP saying "omg u cant see oxygen but that exists" you ******s there are TESTS that can be carried out on elements to prove that they are there. geez.

Also.... the big bang.... "in the begining there was nothing" .. umm NO. in the beginning there was EVERYTHING compressed into a point of infinite smallness. THATS what the theory states. ALL energy in the universe was compressed into a single point and that point WAS the universe. The explosion didnt expand into anything because there was nothing for it to expand into. The entire universe was a pinpoint which exploded then expanded, thats why you cant travel outside of the universe because it hasnt expanded that far yet. Thats the theory. People need to at least get these things straight before they start throwing them around in arguments.

oh really? well cool, thanks for clearing that up. What a ******ed post.

what you said made me feel funny like theres a big wall at the end of the universe because it hasnt expanded enough

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Originally Posted by Str1der

If we could, let's keep the ridicule of our faith to an aboslute zero. That's probablly a good step in the right direction.

None of you can prove God does not exist. You just can't. There is absolutely nothing that you can throw at me that proves he isn't real. While I say this, you're probablly thinking to yourself that I can't prove that he is real. And while I won't be able to get past that thick barrier of realism and/or materialism (for some people) I can bring up a lot of things that just can't be scientifically proven. The Bible itself is the best account of all of the events that occured and is all the proof one needs to know God exists.

Believing in God requires faith. It requires the mind set to not give up when the going get's rough. I don't know how many times I've had to suffer through a ridicule due to the blatant stupidity of a person who really has no clue as to what they are talking about. Don't get me wrong, I give science a hell of a lot of credit. Without it we'd be living in a whole different world. I'm not an extreme creationist in the sense that I belive and/or take everything based on plain text. I'm more set on the idea that faith and science work together to prove the existance of a God at times.

Anywho, that's just me opinion!

She said what i was sorta trying to say just lot better
05-05-2007, 09:02 PM
Mr. First Name Basis

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Originally Posted by lothia

But what you would have to prove god the way you are discussing is it that he created a exact formula to explain how wind moves. The fact of the matter is, why would gravity have an exact number, or air resistance? You can say they don't but do 3000 different tests using different variables but WITH the formula that has been proven and you will get the right answer. You can do manual not technological tests if you still don't believe. One way is counting how long it takes a certain object of a certain weight down a slant. Now you need a few other things such as the resistance/friction of both objects. But once you have these, you can calulate how it will take. And then do it at a different angel to see if the time still comes out the same. My point is, is that it's not just tests, maybe you are to young (I don't know how old you are First Name) but the formulas to prove such things have been done millions of times. So how can you truely say that we do not know the way wind moves?
And if you are saying it is god, then it is god doing it the same way over and over, yet you would have said that, so I am just guissing that you don't know a huge amount about physics.
Now I wasn't talking completely about wind, but I was talking about a few other things we cannot see such as gravity, and air resistance.

Yea you can do thousands of tests and "prove" that air resistance is there, but does that mean that it's actually there. What if there was something more. That's what I'm hinting at. Sure, all objects (as of now) react to wind in the same general manner, but what if there was an object that in fact didn't react to wind in a predictive manner? Would that discredit air resistance and would you still believe in it? Would it still be wind? *

Well, I see God doing great acts everyday. Sure you say that I can't "prove" his existance but can you really prove the existance of wind resistance. It goes like this: You see a leaf float in the wind; I see a man's life spared after being in a terrible accident. You see a runner going around a track and it taking him longer going around the other side because the wind is blowing against him; I see a priest bless the Holy Communion and it transforms into the Body and Blood of Christ right before my eyes.

My point is, you don't know that wind is actually there. You can't see it, you can't feel it, you can't taste it, you can't smell it, there's no proof that it's actually there besides what you see it do. I can't see God, I can't feel him, I can't taste him, and I can't taste him so there's no proof he's there besides what I see him do and that is why I beleive.

* I belive that there is air resistance. It was just an example.