Yeah Man, Stop The War.
Bring Our Troops Home!
How do you feal about all of America's wars?
Revaloution: Kick Ass
Civil War: Stupid.
WWI: Good cause
WWII: Good cause.
Vietnam: Stupid? Maybe
Iraq: Retarted.
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Yeah Man, Stop The War.
Bring Our Troops Home!
How do you feal about all of America's wars?
Revaloution: Kick Ass
Civil War: Stupid.
WWI: Good cause
WWII: Good cause.
Vietnam: Stupid? Maybe
Iraq: Retarted.
Revolution: Luck... If we weren't so lucky, there wouldn't have been any other wars. Lol...
Civil war was useful actually because it stopped slavery in the south.
We actually lost more than double the british casualties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. First Name Basis
War, the best way to get rich!
Or the best way to ruin the economyQuote:
Originally Posted by Icy
Or the best way to strengthen it. (Japan and China in this case.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sour
Well I was talking about the War on Terrorism actually lol XD. We've borrowed the most money from Japan and China. Yep, we skrew Japan in WWII, help em on their feet and now they say we owe them all this money. Nonsense! -_-Quote:
Originally Posted by Civil
vietnam war wasn't stupid
US was backing up a type of government and tried to prevent it from going bad
but failed
The purpose wasn't stupid but everything else was. Lack of supplies, lack of support, lack of everything. There were only two things plentiful: government apathy, and casulties.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRequiem
Just think, 50..60 years from now, we'll be fighting for the moon.
Vietnam wasn't a war. It was a conflict.
[Civil War]
All of y'all talking about slavery and The Civil War; while it is true that the out come of the Civil War completely removed slavery from the US, that was not the reason behind the Civil War.
Every history teacher I've had have all become so angered every time some one answers the Civil War "why?" with "slavery."
The US Civil War was fought over the argument whether the southern states had the right to separate from the Union. Note: The purpose of the US was to provide a Union-ship between independent states amongst the world, under one goal. An American is a person born anywhere on the American continent, not just the US. You refer to a US citizen by the state they where born in. [back on topic] It was believed that if the Civil War did not take place, slavery would probably only lasted 30-40 more years with a lot less of the grump that caused the Civil Rights movement to be so harsh.
[aka to above statement by me] Civil Rights movement may have not been required because the south wouldn't be so sore about losing the war.
[Revolutionary War / Vietnam War]
The only reason we won was because the British gave up fighting. This is very similar to the Vietnam War, which is why many consider Vietnam to be the similar. They where both wars that started, but the side attacking just gave up trying and left.
[Second Iraq War]
Tell me, would you like to see Sadam still wondering about, possibly plotting something?
I'm tire of how pacifist a lot of the world is today. "Oh yes it's a problem, but it's NOT OUR problem."
Yes the war needs to end, but most people don't see why it hasn't yet. Primary objective is complete, but leaving too soon will make it so that another corrupt entity can take over the gov't the same way Sadam did. The troops are still there inly because we still don't have enough faith that their gov't could withstand the rebels within their country.
Yes, a lot of troops are being mean and harasful and that needs to be stopped, but it is not only US troops.
Also note, US troops need to be the last to leave, in comparison to other troops. He who invoked a war needs to be that last to leave a war. The US being the ones who pleahed for the war, we need to leave after all other countries who entered the war, otherwise, we look manipulative, as though we abandoned the other countries that helped us.
I feel that all war is ******ed...and things should be able to be settled more tactfully.
The older wars...those made more sense, because that was then the world was originally falling into order. Some wars HAVE to be fought...but, the ones in the last 60 years...I dunno about.
I feel that all war is ******ed...and things should be able to be settled more tactfully.
The older wars...those made more sense, because that was then the world was originally falling into order. Some wars HAVE to be fought...but, the ones in the last 60 years...I dunno about.
Anyone saying the Civil War was unjustified, think again. Do you know where we'd be if we didn't have the South included in our Union? NOT a position of power, thats for sure...it would have caused ALL kinds of bullshit later on, if they hadn't resolved it way back when.
This was an enlightening read so informative.
dude that post is ******ed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Civil
the revolution wasnt kick ass, it was for a good cause but it wasnt kick ass. the revolution was about a bunch of people who wanted independence and then had to fight a long and bloody war to get it when it would have been a whole lot esaier if the british had said "well they are blatantly going to become an independent country at some point in the future so we may as well give it them as a gift so we can have them as allies sooner". maybe it was a war for the right cause but it wasnt kick ass.
civil war was stupid? you really want the whole of the US to be run by a bunch of ignorant inbred racist rednecks? oh wait.... nevermind, i see now.
ww1 was a good cause? what the hell cause was ww1 fought for? a bunch of fat politicians and ******s trying to hold onto their disintegrating empires so they spew forth a torrent of propaganda to mobilise the uneducated. ww1 would have been alot simpler if everyone left their armies at home and just shot twenty thousand of their own men each week.
ww2 a good cause? perhaps... but then look at the situation it was born from. 1918 was a total ****up, it was a war that shouldnt have happened, 1918 wasnt a victory... it practically ended the peace before it started and was guaranteed to cause problems in the future. yeah maybe fighting ww2 was for a good cause but we wouldnt have had to have done that if it wasnt for the mistakes made in the early twentieth century.
vietnam.... stupid MAYBE???? what the hell are you smoking dude? yeah i know lets stop the spread of world communism by invading some shitty ass 3rd world back water country thats been geting ***** by imperialism for the last 100 years and now is being ***** by the soviet union. what a god awful mess. all that did was cause an entire generation to clam up for 40 years because of their experiences. ****ing ww1 all over again on a smaller scale since nobody gives a shit about the guy coming home.
iraq - ******ed: for many reasons yes it was. but again the west has an xbox HUEG past of interfering in the middle east. all of that interference is ******ed, not just the current invasion.
Revolution: Which one of them?
Civil War: See ' Revolution'
WWI: The war where US got in, because of a submarine thingy, right? plain stupidity, but rich and famous they became the us government.
WWII: arrogant acts from US. only got in to the war because of their own ass getting whooped by japanese airforces and marine. then they realised how ''strong'' they were, and got into the whole '' lets rule the world'' point of view. And another thing: European guy: '' us help us'', american guy:'' nah, not yet, we wait till they burn pearl harbor''.
some time later
american guy and english guy talks together and crushes most of hitler's army.
Vietnam: '' lets go kill some of these creeps with weird eyes, and oh, they are pretty beautiful too. so why dont we **** their wifes and ruin their economy?
some time later
oh no. we ''lost'' the war, and now they want to get to america! HURRY lock all your doors!
iraq: pluses: who am i trying to fool? only plus in that war was the remove of saddam. negatives: ''three hours later''
On the I only see what I want to see: you might be right, I try to reread all posts that I comment on a couple of times, but if I am missing you I am sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by creasian
However, that question you ask me answers itself. You can apliy it to any moral question as well:
Take homosexuality for example.
I will not say, that sending troops into some country is always bad, as well as its not always good.
However, dont you find it sad, that we take so much time to discuss it? That its actualy the chaepest way to easen our minds about the horrible situations in other countries?
We send troops and are done with. That they have changed nothing about the situation at all: Let our grandchildren find out.
We are rested, have a calm conscience that we did something to contribute to world peace and ready, to reelect our dear leaders.
Edit:
I see the point you are coming from as being that an agressive war is sometimes possibly a moral option.
Leaving aside, that this is how the germans sold their war to their people (adding a little lies as spice), I do not say that it is a point that is easily shrugged of.
Sometimes a situation escalates so far, that there are no other options present.
However, a war is plaining to destroy the army of a diffrent nation together with diminishing its leadership entirely.
Its not like the police going to get a drug selling streetgang. Its plaiyng a gamble over the life of millions.
It has no grandour to it and to get what you wanted with such a tactic leaves a stench to victory. Sometimes polititicans lack imagination with what they do. The public doesnt like them to surprise them and come off with briliant, but hard to understand answers.
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Originally Posted by Civil
Wrong. Japan was basically defeated in every possible military way at the time the "Little Boy" and "Fat Man" were DECIDED to be used. At that time, Japan had already lost their military power or even the tiniest possiblity to survive if the war continued. Many and MANY military soldiers, general and commander at that time clearly stated that it wasn't neccesary to use a weapon of that magnitude. Plus, the chose the placement to be a civilized zone which was absolutely uneccesary. The majority of the casualties were civilians. A few hundred thousands died on the impact and many other in the aftermatch.
You might want to watch the way you speak your feelings because anyone could've reported your racist comments. You're selfish and just think about you.