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Something about church...
Ok so ive been attending church every thursday and sunday with a friend.
The thing is, i enjoy going but, My mind is set towards science, and when it comes to religion i keep to myself that i think life started with the big boom and not the one we call god...
Dont get me wrong , im not Atheist but sometimes i think there has to be a creator for and somethings science deals with.
Is this wrong, cause it feels wrong.
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Arrival of BanMido in 3, 2, 1...Originally Posted by corasked
Srsly though, believe in what you believe in. ;/
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It sounds to me like you believe that we have a creator, and a watcher over, but believe that life itself started on accident...or not directly on purpose.
Thats kinda how I feel actually.
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Sounds like you shouldn't be going to church though since you don't agree with their views. Nothing is wrong with your view, if it doesn't fit with the church's that's ok, but I think I wouldn't go if I didn't believe in what they were saying.
I feel that organized religion is the worst thing to ever happen to spirituality. Go with what you believe, it is just as valid (or more so, go science!) as theirs.
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unless you get babtized from when you were a child......
wait..cant one choose another religion religiously...if that makes sense?
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You're exactly right friend, I don't know why everyone else can't just think that way.
Maybe they're afraid God will smight them when they get to Heaven.
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This is the most suttle conversation i have ever had on Onrpg. Amazing.
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It is quite fine that you are going even if you don't believe. A large amount of people in todays world use Religion more as a networking tool then for the belief of it. I suggest however if you really enjoy it that you do something called "young life" because it kind of evolves around religion but a lot of people like it alot because its more active and you do more fun thngs.
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Please describe one thing that a god that is not conflicting with science does.
In that case, he'd be an idiot.
You can't cut away the lower half of the cake, because you like the top better, and think, that it won't get ****ed up.
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Its really pointless for people who believe in evolution and people who believe in creationism to argue, because no one -really- knows, almost everything about it is just THEORY.
I believe that we have a creator, which I label as God.
I also believe that the universe was sprung into existence by said creator.
But unlike the religious ******s, I believe that we weren't made by said creator.
I believe that we evolved over time, once life started to form.
You'd have to be stupid to not believe in that, because that part is NOT theory, it HAS been proven to be true.
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I sense a sort of a contradiction
Somebody made a "creator" up and you liked the idea, so you follow it?
Sounds delusional.
I say that, because that concept is about as smart as thinking that winds are produced by hard blowing clouds with faces.
Those faces, they never existed and they aren't necessary, just because no one had a better explanation 800 years ago, doesn't justify to replace that ignorance with even worse: Lies.
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Yeah, just like the atomic theory where everything is made up of atoms. That is so proposterous! Stupid tiny balls that compose everything, what is between them then, right!!?? Wouldn't we just fall through them? Density is stupid, go salt!
It is just a theory, stupid theories that can't be disproved, but would need thousands upon thousands of years to prove... How absurd.
God, scientists are ******ed!
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I don't understand why someone must challenge someones faith, even though they aren't trying to start an arguement.
It's somewhat an equivalent to those wannabe gangsters trying to start a fight with an innocent bystander.
Most people who follow God and Jesus, dont necessarily like the Christian sect. Christianity is corrupt, but God and Jesus are not, so i dont need to be a "Christian" to have strong relationship with God and my Savior. I label myself a Follower of God/Christ, not as a Christian mostly, but most people dont understand that so i end up saying Christian.
I agree organized religion is corrupt, and ruins those who actually follow what is set out for you.
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I wish Norrin would come an-
oh hai there.
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As the great Siddhartha once did.
Follow your own damn path to enlightenment while learning from others as you learn from yourself.
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Well, not organised religion has the problematic of allowing lunatics to spread any kind of random crap that comes to their mind as "input of the holy god".
Like that infidels deserve death, or similar.
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Guys, 7 days of creation duh!
By the One God, Duh!
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When the scripture says "the Kingdom of Heaven is like a mustard seed" I'd say you'd need to make a pretty big jump to assume he's talking about us, wouldn't you?Ahhh the beauty of religion. Being able to interpret it in any number of ways.... as long as it's MY way.
Nice try though, that recycled argument always does manage to catch me by surprise!
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Im prolly gonna be agreeing wiht Maniac mostly, i think we have the same belief, unless hes catholic
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Nondenominational Christian, actually.Im prolly gonna be agreeing wiht Maniac mostly, i think we have the same belief, unless hes catholic
cuz "true" Christians arnt extremist. and extremist are the people standing on the side of the road screaming "Your going to Hell". thats not how God wants you to spread His Word. so if thats not how he wants you to, then that cant exactly be "extra mile". Im not saying they dont know the "reasearch" to say, but its more how you talk to God(relationship) and spread the Word of God that really matters. all the knowledge in the world wont help you if you cant share it.
Itd be like proving a point by murderering somebody. Still proves the point, but is not the right way to prove it, and wont be a "good" point at that. Nobody will remember the good point from that murder, but that he murdered someone.Like most of you see those guys yelling and think what a lunatic. YOu dont think their just spreading the Word of God.But when your helping a community rebuild a town through the Power of God, people will be more inclined to thing that God is a wonderful being(mission trips).
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Lolfail
You just called everything a theory again :3
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Hey Maniac, remember the conversation we once had in PM?
Since than I picked up one of thoes 80's proving the Bible books, which was in it's arguments undesirable clumsy, but I also found a critique to it and that was interesting:
One could say, the whole point of the debate is the actual existence of a divine force, or god.
The way god reveals himself is what we call a miracle.
The critique about the book was s follows:
How can it be a miracle, if Moses simply awaited the tide?
That made me think.
There was one members post in this thread , that said something along the lines of "gods will manifests in the world, even through everyday physics".
This viewpoint is very problematic, because there is no rule to be found which natural phenomenon to attribute to god; picking only the fitting would have us create an idea of god, that is solely shaped by our tastes and desires.
This is why the catholic church (i am just narrating here), where miracles and saints have an important value decided to only class miracles as such, who fail to be explained as "mere work of natures laws".
Still, even with a huge number of new saints and wonders, that got argumented by the Vatican and are set in the status of miracles, no one takes them seriously.
I think, that what we imagine as miracles, how we interpret and review them, makes up the biggest spiritual part of our religiosity or it's absence.
I see that as the main issue, be it concerned with the scripture , or more importantly with the happenings in the present.
This is just a thought I felt worthy of adding.
[Most of the recently said is still imho relevant to the topic in general and the OP.]
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