A small Victory

[HiddenMist]

I'm going to try this once... for the fun of it
People don't kill themselves because they "deem their life to have no value"... well - usually not. they kill themselves because of things or persons that made them feel bad. Persons that would, let's say, celebrate their death. Persons begging for attention so much that they would post their death in any part of any forum just to get it. So try to see it like this - guy didn't killed himself because out of the blew... you killed him (metaphorically speaking), as well anyone here could kill you. To say that person is "weak" is not only immature, but impolite to the friends and family of the dead, who, in this moment wouldn't really want to hear some shonen-obsessed 12 y. o. talking trash about someone who has accomplished far more than you probably ever will.
My advice is: stop reading Naruto, and start reading Dostoevsky
There - I did my best

O.o -coughs- first of all he didn't kill himself over the SWG community, his family stated its because of personal issues, Now I consider killing yourself stateing it has no value, Life is the most valuable thing u can have,(along with family and friends) now When you kill yourself your throwing all that away over Something that happened, totally stupid. And im not shonen obsessed and you just proved your an idiot by calling me a 12y. o. Like all idiots turn to (oh your just 12 you dont know anything) even if I was 12 I could be a genius, So ya (anyway im 17 in a few months) but ya just saying. Next Just because my name on a site is a referance to a Anime character means nothing, I watch the show now and then and i liked this character so took it as a name, your names daylight O.o I could call you a sun-obsessed 12 y. o. but thats just as stupid because I know nothing about you, Hell you could be obsessed with the sun and day.
And about him accomplishing more in his life then me im 16 I still have along time to accomplish something, and guess what im not gonna kill myself later in life so ill of accomplished valueing my life and not making other people that devistated, Woo I accomplished something over him, and also If someone cured cancer then killed themself Id say the same thing they have no value, sure they saved the lives of alot of people but they took thier life which wasnt worth it.

This isn't even funny -.-'.

You don't see me laughing do you?

[Maver64]

Son of a ***** ruined my game. RIP

[Wicked315]

LOL he doesnt reply to my post.

Would you care if your mom comitted suicide? Answer that. Then I'll leave you be. In my eyes your just a fat 12 year old nerd, who thinks an MMO is better then an actual person. Good Go.

[Lawliet1]

Suicide and victory never go in the same sentence

Although,im sensitive to the emotional pain of others

[Reflaw]

MMOs are MMOs, if someone kills himself over an MMO it's stupid. However I doubt anyone is that stupid, its normally over a build up of things. Although some people did kill someone over lineage 2 o_o. MMOs are serious business.

[HiddenMist]

LOL he doesnt reply to my post.

Would you care if your mom comitted suicide? Answer that. Then I'll leave you be. In my eyes your just a fat 12 year old nerd, who thinks an MMO is better then an actual person. Good Go.

Um O.o you just proved you dont read my posts, I already said, My mom shares my take on suicide, and IF she killed herself id be upset, but i'd think of her as cruel for doing that to her family, and lose the respect I have for her.

www.myspace.com/nightschaos Yup im a 12 year old fat nerd.

[Wicked315]

Um O.o you just proved you dont read my posts, I already said, My mom shares my take on suicide, and IF she killed herself id be upset, but i'd think of her as cruel for doing that to her family, and lose the respect I have for her.

www.myspace.com/nightschaos Yup im a 12 year old fat nerd.

1) I dont click on Myspace Links-- because they arent worth clicking on.

I never called you "old" or "fat" so there you go again failing.

Anyways, stfu kid. Your just an idiot who cares about an MMO over a person, and yeah if you care about your mom suiciding why wont you care about him? Its because he ruined your MMO isnt it? As I said. Stfu. If your intentions on NOT caring for him because he ruined a game, is just wrong and pathetic.

[soultaker9639]

Ummm....no. Even if you don't value his life since he committed suicide, it doesn't change the fact it's not a victory. He already screwed up the game years ago. He is the one who initiated the change back in the day, but the change has been done. It's not like with his death the game turned back into the way it was, and no one gained anything, a guy just died. So how does that justify that as a victory. SWG will still be NGE unless SOE decides to change it back.

To put this in a different perspective, lets say an evil overload takes over the world, and send/turns it into absolute hell. He then kills himself out of cowardice, yet the world is still in a absolute state of hell. So, in the end some guy died, but were are still in hell. Someone died, but nothing was gained, nothing really change, the world wasn't really influenced in any good way. In the end were are still f'ed over, therefore no victory.

A guy just died, it's not a victory, but a lost. Who cares if the mmo had more value then his life or not. Nothing was gained out of this, nothing won, nothing happened. A man ended his life causing grief to so many people around him. So this would be more of a loss then a victory. Yes he did piss off a shitload of gamers, but it's a game. He caused great pain to family and friends. He hurt people in the end so no matter how you look at it, it's a lost. Nothing good came out of it, just pain and grief which out weighs the fact he f'ed up SWG. Saying this is a victory, a man ending his life is a victory, is like spitting in the face of all of the people who actually knew and cared for him. Your in a sense saying "Yea this guy screwed up a video game I play, it makes me happy that he died, I don't care if you feel sad about it." I honestly view nothing positive out of this.

[Sukiriso]

Heh for one we don't know thats even you.

Okay suiciding is not the best way out of it but how the hell is it a victory?

Oh and Offtopic Lawliet were you playing Blackshot like a hour ago?

EDIT: Then someone stole your name. I asked if they know what OnRPG is but that does not really specify if its you or not.Lulz

[Lawliet1]

I mean its just a game anyway.

Basically a bunch of code put together for people to enjoy.

But a life...you cant script a life...a human life....

Edit:@ sukiriso: Nope

[Sukiriso]

Let's hope he left.This thread needs a lock.

[HiddenMist]

Ummm....no. Even if you don't value his life since he committed suicide, it doesn't change the fact it's not a victory. He already screwed up the game years ago. He is the one who initiated the change back in the day, but the change has been done. It's not like with his death the game turned back into the way it was, and no one gained anything, a guy just died. So how does that justify that as a victory. SWG will still be NGE unless SOE decides to change it back.

To put this in a different perspective, lets say an evil overload takes over the world, and send/turns it into absolute hell. He then kills himself out of cowardice, yet the world is still in a absolute state of hell. So, in the end some guy died, but were are still in hell. Someone died, but nothing was gained, nothing really change, the world wasn't really influenced in any good way. In the end were are still f'ed over, therefore no victory.

A guy just died, it's not a victory, but a lost. Who cares if the mmo had more value then his life or not. Nothing was gained out of this, nothing won, nothing happened. A man ended his life causing grief to so many people around him. So this would be more of a loss then a victory. Yes he did piss off a shitload of gamers, but it's a game. He caused great pain to family and friends. He hurt people in the end so no matter how you look at it, it's a lost. Nothing good came out of it, just pain and grief which out weighs the fact he f'ed up SWG. Saying this is a victory, a man ending his life is a victory, is like spitting in the face of all of the people who actually knew and cared for him. Your in a sense saying "Yea this guy screwed up a video game I play, it makes me happy that he died, I don't care if you feel sad about it." I honestly view nothing positive out of this.

Thank you : D finally a good post so hard to find someone to give a intelligent answer on these forums, I was acctually kinda hoping Cyber would come in and just win, But ye, I get everyones stand points I do NOT consider it a victory it is true even though he's dead its done nothing to the game, If he killed himself because of the NGE then itd be worth a little more like admitting it was a huge f-up (like some other dev said so in his blog)
But It is true still that I have no value for people who commit suicide but no its not a victory if someone fed up something then kills themself, yes its sad but i still feel no loss for him I feel bad for his family that he would do that to them but eh.

I acctually saw this posted on a diff forum that the NGE dude killed himself and they were all laughing about it so I took it and saw if I could get oppisote reaction, im surprised noone said "Wrong section" 1000 times

And yes I would care if my mom killed herself but No i still wouldnt respect it and id be mad she did it.

ummm Ya that bout wraps that up That ends my boredom im gonna go back on rose now and lvl some more (And that acctually is my myspace)

p.s.I really liked the Turn to make it about a overlord turning earth into hell then him dying and it still being hell. Thats what I was looking for, Just because 1 component dies out doesn't mean it falls. Nothing is won.

-waits for the next 100 posts about "Ohhhh he got scared and backed out" acctually im just getting bored of saying the same thing over and over, I finally got a smart person so im done lol

Re-read your post nubsauce.

-Also I said you were a 12 year old I never called you OLD moron.

....O.o are you trying to be a idiot or just normally stupid I said "yup im a fat 12 year old" i didnt say u called me old how the fack can i be 12 and old.

You sir are a moron

[hyarume]

I would feel horrable if my mom died, i love my mama (mother)

[Vesper]

I'm pretty sure the world sighed in relief when Hitler ate a bullet.

[Wicked315]

That kid me lol 100x irl, he basically ate his own comments, its a joke. He needs to learn before starting an e-argument.

His thread is called "Small Victory" yet he says "I DONT CONSIDER THIS A VICTORY"

He fails.

[djaoni]

Wanting people dead because of a game.

I gotta say this deserves 2 Sisko facepalms!

[leathel]

Jeff Freeman The Man who said "OK" to Star wars galaxies(swg) NGE has killed himself.

http://kotaku.com/5057189/star-wars-...f-freeman-dies

A small Victory

dont EVER joke over someones life.

[soultaker9639]

I'm pretty sure the world sighed in relief when Hitler ate a bullet.

That wasn't the point of the analogy.

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It doesn't matter who was right, and who was wrong. This was just another pointless argument over the web based on opinion, with a rather inappropriate topic. Mod's this topic needed to be locked a LONG time ago, please lock it before a lot of pointless and irrelevant flame filled posts pop up. Honestly guys, let this one sink into the bottom of the board.

[Pikko]

I think this is appropriate.

[Grable]

no death is a victory mate

[Pikko]

no death is a victory mate

Except for wars in which we declare victory.