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    Default [DEBATE](i guess) Euthanasia

    whats your view on Euthanasia. had a mock trial on this.

    Euthanasia - kinda a assisted suicide.practice of ending a life in a painless manner.

    its illegal fyi(in the USA that im aware of.).

    discuss.

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    As long as there is protocol in place to make sure that a doctor does it in a painless manner, and that the patient is suffering from an illness that means that the chances are that most likely (as in 80-90%) that she will die a painful death, then yeah, I'm OK with it.

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    If a person is suffering, has no chance of their condition getting better, and fully realizes what they are asking for...then yeah.

    Only using a short answer because I'm too lazy to type out all of my thoughts on the subject.

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    I feel those that are suicidal deserve to be given time to reflect and proper "treatment". But if a person has no will to live after all resources have been exhausted....why not? They will only prob commit suicide anyway.

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    Suicide should be legalized. people have the right to do with their life as they wish(as long as they don't hurt other, of coarse). Besides, there's 6 billion people in the world. 6 billion. The world isn't going to come to an end if a few people decide to leave on us.

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    Suicide should be legal as long as they don't make a big deal of it and block up subway transits and crap.

    I don't care if there's a dead body on the tracks damnit! I have school in 5 minutes and I sure as hell ain't gonna be late a third time because some moron decided to take the eternal sleep on Fourth Avenue =/

    Assisted suicide though, that could be questionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacn View Post
    Suicide should be legalized. people have the right to do with their life as they wish(as long as they don't hurt other, of coarse). Besides, there's 6 billion people in the world. 6 billion. The world isn't going to come to an end if a few people decide to leave on us.
    That isn't even pertinent to the situation.

    There are plenty of people that take petty crimes and misdemeanors to rather high courts, not because they aren't willing to pay, let's say a 50 dollar fine, but because they believe that, for example, some of their civil liberties and rights were infringed upon.

    It's not the fact that people are dying that concerns us, I most people don't commit suicide, that's a fact; the problem here is that we view death as an unknown, and frightening finality. The very concept of someone wishing to enter into that realm is simply incorrect and unfathomable in some of our minds. Therein lies the problem, the fact that many people think the idea of suicide is wrong.

    I couldn't care less if someone dies on the other side of the world because of, for example, a car accident; however I would find it much more disturbing if they had committed suicide.

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    People are too scared of too many things. Especially things that don't pertain to them. If they are not your family, your friend, or someone you hold close and they die, then it doesn't concern you aside from the giving condolences part.

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    Everyone has the right to die.

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    I'm going to echo Fabiann and say that I think having suicide be illegal in the first place is ridiculous. Euthanasia is tricky becuase it could be used as a method of trying to get away with murder. The ideal system would be to have some impartial witnesses stand by, have the person give definite consent while supervised (although that might have to happen early, sort of like a DNR note), and have it filmed for the court, I guess. Also, I am going to try to inject a note of levity by posting a funny comic, as is my wont:



    edit: debates were everyone agrees on everything but semantics are pretty awesome.

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    No issues with it what-so-ever. If someone wants to take their own life, there's nothing anyone can do about it.

    Say I wanted to end my life, and euthanasia wasn't legal. Then I would have to find another manner to end my life which might end up being more painful, or even endangering others around me. Sounds more humane to me.

    And besides, my family/friends won't have any doubt that it wasn't a framed suicide or accident. They wouldn't have to waste any time/money into those investigations.

    How it gets implemented is probably the bigger question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandHustle View Post
    That isn't even pertinent to the situation.

    There are plenty of people that take petty crimes and misdemeanors to rather high courts, not because they aren't willing to pay, let's say a 50 dollar fine, but because they believe that, for example, some of their civil liberties and rights were infringed upon.

    It's not the fact that people are dying that concerns us, I most people don't commit suicide, that's a fact; the problem here is that we view death as an unknown, and frightening finality. The very concept of someone wishing to enter into that realm is simply incorrect and unfathomable in some of our minds. Therein lies the problem, the fact that many people think the idea of suicide is wrong.

    I couldn't care less if someone dies on the other side of the world because of, for example, a car accident; however I would find it much more disturbing if they had committed suicide.
    I find medical needles disturbing. Doesn't give me the right to outlaw them.

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    Isn't there legal suicide machines in Australia?

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    If you want to die and are in such a state of suffering that you cannot, that is a worse fate than being dead as far as I'm concerned.
    And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear.

    You shout and no one seems to hear.

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    I'm all for Euthanasia.

    I wanna be able to die and stop using up my relative's money for medical bills if I'm in terrible agony waiting to die and I can't even end my life.

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    If I am in such a condition that I have to be hugely deformed or hooked up to machines to live and there is no andriod or robotic symbiotic technology available then I give OnRpg the right to legally shotgun me in the face.

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    Euthanasia is better than spending your life in terrible pain waiting for it to end, so yes, I’m for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowsworn View Post
    I'm going to echo Fabiann and say that I think having suicide be illegal in the first place is ridiculous. Euthanasia is tricky becuase it could be used as a method of trying to get away with murder. The ideal system would be to have some impartial witnesses stand by, have the person give definite consent while supervised (although that might have to happen early, sort of like a DNR note), and have it filmed for the court, I guess.
    It also induces the possibility of institutionalized mass murder and genocide.
    That is one of the big reasons, why the word itself is having a special emphasis.

    I am against one thing:
    Making it the norm for dealing with age.
    Besides that I don't stand on the side of criminalizing it in extreme cases, where it can allow people to end their lives in graze and be a humane end to inhumane suffering.

    On the technicalities:
    That is a very, very complicated issue.
    Most solutions that i know of were it is practiced are for my taste not living up to the problematic,
    and the procedure and how it is controlled are also a problem of it's own, that usually never satisfyingly achieves that no wrong use happens.

    It's a too important topic to have it go unattended by the law as it is, by a ban.

    Quote Originally Posted by darknight55 View Post
    If a person wants to die, let him >_> Theres overpopulation on earth anyways.
    A) I am al times wondering where people pick up things like "overpopulation of the earth", because that is absolute bull.
    B) The theoretical acceptance of such a measure because of a political global agenda is shocking and I totally reject this kind of sentiment.
    If there is a contest in doing it wrong, this is in the top scores.

    ~+~

    This topic might get fun as soon as religion gets on the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darknight55 View Post
    Unless of course someone wants to control how we live, when we die, how we die. Nope, not god, just the government.
    You mean like they will start to kill us off when we become useless in their eyes?

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