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WTB Death penalty - HIV injections
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27681660...5773?GT1=31037
2 dudes injected 14 others with HIV infected blood, one got 9 years, the other 5.
I personally find this worse than murder, since you are ending up killing the person and making them suffer. If I had my way it'd be death by painful means, like watching sex in the city until they claw their eyes out in frustration.
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They effectively sentenced 14 innocents to death, and escaped the penalty themselves? That makes wonderful sense.
Reputation: 235
The death penalty is ridiculous and shouldn't be put to use anywhere, in my opinion.
What these men did is absolutely unbelievable, though. Horrible, terrible actions. Truly despicable.
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Complete isolation (with literally no social contacts at all) for the rest of their lives. That's the worst punishment.
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A suitable punishment for a terrible crime. Even those who enjoy solitude would not last long in such conditions.Originally Posted by Kentaro
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Where do you stand on the death penalty then?
Am I to understand from the above quote that, in the event of prison systems working as they should, you feel total life imprisonment without benefits is apt?
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There's really injustice in this world...anyone of us could become a victim.
I wonder how society feels after all these things come to happen?
Guilt is one tough enemy, I think...it would be the one following you around.
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Forgive me if I'm not making sense tonight, I'm staying awake by the grace of an Eggnog Latte from Starbucks after having pulled an all-nighter to sate a creative urge.
I have mixed feelings on the death penalty. On one hand I see it as a gruesome and necessary punishment intended to deter similar crimes through fear, but that doesn't necessarily mean I support it. On the other hand, I dislike the idea of ending the life of any sentient being for any reason. I am neither for nor against it, I simply recognize it as the penalty of the most unspeakable crimes and accept that many of the men and women subjected to it have been deemed deserving of such a fate by a [hopefully] fair trial.
I do believe, though, that the death penalty should only be administered when there is no shadow of a doubt that the suspect is guilty. One overturned lead or seemingly insignificant inconsistency, and the man or woman should instead be subjected to life in prison without parole. Rarely will such a case arise that meets the criteria, but the highest punishment should not be doled out like candy on Halloween.
Disregard my previous posts as the results of disgust and a lack of self control.
Reputation: 235
The thing is, you can never be 100% sure that someone is guilty, ever. Not to the fact.
To me, you have to be when the punishment is death. That's one of the very many reasons I don't feel it should exist.
Reputation: 677
Any form of punishment by the state is a profound misunderstanding of the separation of powers.
A legal system aimed at punishing people has given up on it's responsibility in front of humanity and is nothing but a sign of a failed society under the boots of the plebs, mobocracy and it's unecessary purely self serving violence.
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Inject them with aids.
There, simple solution, that'll teach them.
Kill someone? You die, IMO thats how justice should be.
If they feel they have the right to do such thing, they should be given the same fate
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hm, i wonder if they would let me hurl bricks at them...
or inject them with ebola.
Reputation: 677
People really don't know what a "justice system" is...
It's not for enacting justice but for enabling it.
Of course that is to complicated a concept for people to understand.
Just shows how they have no idea of what is just, nor how they are disinterested in anything but themselves.
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And yet, if I go out and kill in revenge for a murder against my family, I'd be eligible for the death penalty by your admission, yet...it's also justice to you.
Let's just make murder legal.
Some people...
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Well im not saying that, im saying that in cases like this theres no other way IMO, doing such horrible thing shouldnt just hold them for 9 years.
Killing, in revenge, isnt right, but it shouldnt be given death penalty for it.
Im saying in such cases like this, people should be given the same fate.
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Lets hear what Magic Johnson has to say.. "HIV is Not a Death Sentence"
http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...8-26-Magic.cfm
And many others agree.
Reputation: 316
Until there is a cure, I'd rather be dead.
Sidenote: I'm not really in favour of the death penalty (I don't have anything against it either mind you) but certain circumstances that are so abhorent I don't feel that reformation is enough and a price has to be paid, I can understand the victim's familys wanting blood. If you willfully go out and ruin 14 people's lives for no reason what-so-ever, and I was one of those people, I wouldn't want justice, I'd want strangle-y revenge. If the system wouldn't do it for me, I'd take it into my own hands. >
Reputation: 235
Well, you're wrong. You don't condemn someone for thinking they have the right to take a life, then take one themselves.
If your issue is that the justice system doesn't detain them long enough, then...fix it. Don't quick fix it.
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Thats the deal, for something like this, 5-9 years?
Ridiculous, i support the death penalty only in certain cases, and IMO this is one, or at least life in prison.
I find it dificult to believe these kind of people are getting let into the streets again.
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So then don't let them into the streets, just don't kill them.
Reputation: 677
Yea, that is what we should do:
What is least "difficult" to believe.
Farewell, freedom of creative achievement, here come the government of the morons.
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Omg i thought homosexuals didnt like to hurt other ppl (Well my gay freinds are like that >.<) no im not try to generalize but feh it turned out that wayBut in Wednesday's ruling, judges said while the victims all had HIV, it could not be proven that they were infected by the injections because they willingly took part in orgies where gay men had unprotected sex.
anyways this is just sick and wrong wtf are these 2 thinking..
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Thinking something is the opposite of knowing it.
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Alright now i fully read up tho seeing them 2 get away with giving 14 HIv thats death or you could say man slaughter >.> the fact however is this is in a different country and as you know everybody sees things differently. However i do see a death sentence for this not really possible because the people who end up getting have
A. Killed,Injured,Assault, Any physical punishment (and by this i mean alot of people)
B. Stealing from drugs to money
C. Probaly also have a long history of violence
Anyways this is my opinion and as said they see it as a Mental illness so different ideas again. well thats it for my piece
Reputation: 235
Let's not overlook the fact that this crime is most horrible in PREMISE.
It could be many, many years before they even develop AIDS, and even then, it's a heavily treatable disease nowadays.
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