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    Default Why is no one as smart as Square Enix?

    After playing loads of pay 2 play games in 08 (all of them...) ive come to notice that there are always two different servers for each region. One for the NA and one for EU.

    im kinda wondering what is going on in the mmorpg market and when they will sort this issue out.

    Since mmorpgs are also about meeting people from across the world and adventuring with them i hate it when i see restrictions on servers. These restrictions can even hurt games at times.

    Now what confuses me is. Square Enix released FFXI in 2003/2004 (consoles were 04 wiki says) and they were able to deal with these issues.

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    Everyone plays on the same server no matter where your from and doesnt cause any lag issues.

    Auto Translater in game to help with anyone who doesnt speak english and works amazing. I had a party with 3 other korean users and was able to communicate fine using the Auto Translate. Those who have played it see how well this is put together.

    Consoles/PC users all on the same server which is by far the best idea ever. Sure there are not many mmorpgs that are on the consoles at the moment but im sure we will be seeing alot more soon.

    An extra that may not be true but im not sure someone else can validate. Servers can Hold 5k people while other mmorpgs start their ques at 2k (WoW and WAR) if im wrong about WoW leave a comment.

    I dunno why companies havent picked up on this especially since games are focusing alot on pvp nowadays and for decent pvp you need a large community.

    Im sure alot of you guyz are NA players but i bet you have some EU friends. Leave a post with your opinion !

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    Legal issues being the main reason servers are split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archill View Post
    Legal issues being the main reason servers are split.
    I wasnt talking about F2P games where most of the time licensing issues are in the way. Im talking about P2P games.

    (no paytoplay section)

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    Yup, it's pretty sad actually that we are meeting the same kind of people inside the same country when we are all in the "world wide web" playing online games. But companies in other nations want to suck out money off players too, so that's why...

    But actually I just realized if you have a game with players from different countries, you can easily get racism all over the place. You are going to start getting racial conflicts, such as Americans don't get along with Korean players, or Japanese players don't get along with Brazilian players etc. I still remember back in when PristonTale was F2P and still popular, there were crazy conflicts between American players and Brazilian players, and they hated each other in the guts. It's gonna happen very easily, especially when you can type so many languages in game anyway. You are going to feel isolated and violated more or less if other players around you in the party are speaking in other languages and not using the translator because they didn't feel like it. Plus... does auto translator really work? I have always wondered. I always thought it wouldn't work that well because slands just don't translate that well, and also translator can have trouble translating sentence that do not use proper grammar in the respective language.

    Regardless though, I still agree that they shouldn't isolate people from different nation; they should at least make an international server just so that people who want to interact with other ethnicities can actually do that.

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    There's currently 40,000 players on some of the most populated realms active within a month.

    But just imagine if all those realms merged into one, there will be literally hundreds of thousands of players online. :S

    http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php?sort=Total

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    Quote Originally Posted by leathel View Post
    After playing loads of pay 2 play games in 08 (all of them...) ive come to notice that there are always two different servers for each region. One for the NA and one for EU.

    im kinda wondering what is going on in the mmorpg market and when they will sort this issue out.

    Since mmorpgs are also about meeting people from across the world and adventuring with them i hate it when i see restrictions on servers. These restrictions can even hurt games at times.

    Now what confuses me is. Square Enix released FFXI in 2003/2004 (consoles were 04 wiki says) and they were able to deal with these issues.

    Example:

    Everyone plays on the same server no matter where your from and doesnt cause any lag issues.

    Auto Translater in game to help with anyone who doesnt speak english and works amazing. I had a party with 3 other korean users and was able to communicate fine using the Auto Translate. Those who have played it see how well this is put together.

    Consoles/PC users all on the same server which is by far the best idea ever. Sure there are not many mmorpgs that are on the consoles at the moment but im sure we will be seeing alot more soon.

    An extra that may not be true but im not sure someone else can validate. Servers can Hold 5k people while other mmorpgs start their ques at 2k (WoW and WAR) if im wrong about WoW leave a comment.

    I dunno why companies havent picked up on this especially since games are focusing alot on pvp nowadays and for decent pvp you need a large community.

    Im sure alot of you guyz are NA players but i bet you have some EU friends. Leave a post with your opinion !
    Thats because FFXI is a dieing game and they must regroup all the players they can. I tried the xbox 360 one and it was like literally DEAD. Noone in town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Declis View Post
    Thats because FFXI is a dieing game and they must regroup all the players they can. I tried the xbox 360 one and it was like literally DEAD. Noone in town.
    Well.. That must have been a waste of subscription.

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    FFXI is just old. I wish they'd let the game die and make something better. there are a number of their games that would make better MMO's


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashis View Post
    FFXI is just old. I wish they'd let the game die and make something better. there are a number of their games that would make better MMO's
    They are developing a MMORPG for the PS3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faith View Post
    They are developing a MMORPG for the PS3
    Seriously!? What is it called?

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    Try playing on a server in Korea from the US, tell me what your ping is like.
    Really.

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    pfft smart, if they cant even get a free mmo out after like 10 months then theyre not smart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neutral View Post
    pfft smart, if they cant even get a free mmo out after like 10 months then theyre not smart
    Lets see you do it in 10 months. After all, you claim their stupid correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leathel View Post
    After playing loads of pay 2 play games in 08 (all of them...) ive come to notice that there are always two different servers for each region. One for the NA and one for EU.

    im kinda wondering what is going on in the mmorpg market and when they will sort this issue out.

    Since mmorpgs are also about meeting people from across the world and adventuring with them i hate it when i see restrictions on servers. These restrictions can even hurt games at times.

    Now what confuses me is. Square Enix released FFXI in 2003/2004 (consoles were 04 wiki says) and they were able to deal with these issues.

    Example:

    Everyone plays on the same server no matter where your from and doesnt cause any lag issues.

    Auto Translater in game to help with anyone who doesnt speak english and works amazing. I had a party with 3 other korean users and was able to communicate fine using the Auto Translate. Those who have played it see how well this is put together.

    Consoles/PC users all on the same server which is by far the best idea ever. Sure there are not many mmorpgs that are on the consoles at the moment but im sure we will be seeing alot more soon.

    An extra that may not be true but im not sure someone else can validate. Servers can Hold 5k people while other mmorpgs start their ques at 2k (WoW and WAR) if im wrong about WoW leave a comment.

    I dunno why companies havent picked up on this especially since games are focusing alot on pvp nowadays and for decent pvp you need a large community.

    Im sure alot of you guyz are NA players but i bet you have some EU friends. Leave a post with your opinion !
    Lolx~ you are not as smart as well. Have you ever heard of the Mana Fiasco? Kochi Ishi's arguement with the FF team? Know what's happening before making stupid conclusions about why should people should follow square Enix noob

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinalTat View Post
    Lolx~ you are not as smart as well. Have you ever heard of the Mana Fiasco? Kochi Ishi's arguement with the FF team? Know what's happening before making stupid conclusions about why should people should follow square Enix noob
    While it's true the mana games got worse over time (I used to be a fan) that isn't the only series they have going for them. Front Mission for example has been a overall good series over the years. Square and Enix both put together some classics solo and together as well.


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