why does every new game have to have openpvp with itemdrops? i hate it

[NorthM]

and so my newest addition to the "open pvp with itemdrops - dont play" list
is Ether saga
apparently there is no level restriction you can kill whoever you like after level 45
as well as apparently grabbing their items from the corpse too

where did all the non-pvp servers go ? no new games seems to have them
i want the option to not getting attacked if i dont want to, hence i want to play on a pve-only server

yes im a carebear i know
im just frustrated thats why i post this , maybe someone else thinks the same way?
good games like ethersaga with nice pve elements in it, simply not playable because the pvp part is UNOPTIONAL!

[kon11]

list all the new mmo's out there with open pvp and item drops

NOT MANY

i'm grateful that mmo's are finally catering to the pvp-centric side of the community

i mean look at Runes of magic onlines pvp only-SERVER, it fails and fails bad

im glad games are finally taking notice that pvp is an important aspect of a game.

and are actually trying to improve their pvp. I don't see what's the point of PvE games to be honest. read: maplestory etc. You just grind and grind to what.. grind?

I prefer games to have pvp and non pvp servers though, and for each to cater to their own community successfully.

im surprised ether saga has open pvp, i really can't wait till it's released into open beta now. Finally something different in a new 3d MMORPG. The only other decent NEW pvp centered game atm is rf online to be honest

[MediumZ]

imo open pvp allows me to kill botters and some annoying a-holes

item drop is to prevent too much murdurers

[NorthM]

i just want them to separate pvplovers with pvelovers
youre right about that all the openpvp games dont have itemlooting , i guess i was wrong about that
but the openpvp games surely exploded in numbers lately

it totally kills the game if you dont like to get killed by highlevel players all the time
it totally kills all the good pve-parts in it like grouping,questing,hunting for skills,helping people out (yes its possible to help people, not just kill them...)

it totally kills any game if it has open pvp for me, no matter how good it is otherwise
sad but true

i just dont see the problem with deactivating pvp alltogether and putting that on a different server. shouldnt be too costly for them to have a pve server running should it?
anyways i asked them on http://eso-forum.perfectworld.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5 .. lets see what they say, maybe they change their minds

[MediumZ]

u need supporters for that
but i dont think it will work
they choose to have open pvp for a reason

[cinderboy]

wait, pvp needs the consent of both players, pk means you just kill the other player without requesting for a fight.

so is it open pvp or open pk

[MediumZ]

i think he means pk xD

[cinderboy]

Erh if a game is open PK on any map minus town, im out of it.

I wld prefer open pk in selected maps =/

[ChickenDewd21]

u need supporters for that
but i dont think it will work
they choose to have open pvp for a reason

Yeh, I was around on the Malay PW boards when this issue was brought up. ;/ I can't remember what happened, though. Oh well. Ether Saga blows. ;o Such a cool name for a lame game, they should've called it Perfect Happy Baby World.

[Krunkmasta Flex]

open pk games do get annoying(see lineage 2) you could be minding your own bussiness then suddently some *** walks up and kills you then proceeds to kill you every single time you leave town and you cannot do anything about other then log off and pray to whatever god you worship that he's gone by the time you come back on, if not well TFB i suppose.

i aswell love PVE mostly because i as an author to be, enjoy a well made and thought out story(see Lotro) where quests actually lead up to a climax in a story.

but if they had seperate servers then you know bolly, if not they can go to hell.

[Echtolion]

There's games for PvE, there's games for PvP, and there's games that manage to mix both together.
I'm sorry not every game caters to how you enjoy playing, but you should remember that some people enjoy open PvP/PK.

[kon11]

There's games for PvE, there's games for PvP, and there's games that manage to mix both together.
I'm sorry not every game caters to how you enjoy playing, but you should remember that some people enjoy open PvP/PK.

memememememe

i think people are generally moving in the pvp direction too, at least there's enough demand for it now

but i'd also like to see a pve and pvp server... once Open beta starts

[fenix40k]

its definitly a good thing and the item drop idea is really nice..You get something for killing ..thats good

and like the one on page 1 said allready...many? lol no ..only some.
But ty for the info .Dunno that ethanal saga have this feature .Thats awsome

( i am the one who pk all the people like you , stop whine xD )

[kon11]

Yes, i do wish i had a plethora of pvp open games with item drops. Sadly this is not the case.

[AMyth]

Seems i will Alt TAb less ....YESS

[Ratto]

Having actually just played this game, I didn't have any problem with PKers myself. And the few people I did see while I was doing quests, were busy doing their own thing, and no one was really even talking, much less killing other players. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

EDIT: Apparently there will be a PvE and PvP (PK) server each for the west coast and east coast. PK servers will have safe zones like towns, and PvE will have arenas. Right now only 1 server is open on each coast for Ether Saga CB, but nobody really knows what's going on with PvP servers at this point so we don't know which server is which yet.

[fenix40k]

yeah that is standart .All games like that have pvp + pve server

[NorthM]

EDIT: Apparently there will be a PvE and PvP (PK) server each for the west coast and east coast. PK servers will have safe zones like towns, and PvE will have arenas. Right now only 1 server is open on each coast for Ether Saga CB, but nobody really knows what's going on with PvP servers at this point so we don't know which server is which yet.

btw, "unrestricted"(except towns like you said) pk starts at level 45+ in ethersaga(they have a pkrulesystem also if you check their info/helptab ingame)
pve + arena sounds totally ok to me lets hope they do that

yeah that is standart .All games like that have pvp + pve server

youre not completely right about that. im thinking about : world of kung fu,cabal,celestrialdestroyer(zhuxian),godswaronlin e,
_4story_
those games have a bigbig pveside and still they allow openpk with no alternative pve-server existing

[davidemo89]

carebear!

[fenix40k]

@ NorthM of course i am right.
look at your list of "pvp based" games.They have pvp areas .They are pve with pvp areas and 4 story is based on pvp so you cant make a pve server lol
look at the games and think about it

[minajkl]

1. maybe cause servers don't tell you that its open pk or pvp till you get in game. and 2. if you are going to drop stuff when you die whats point of paying for stuff just to lose it. lets say you get the best thing in game and all of a sudden you get pked and it drops your a sad f*** aren't you.

[ControlKill]

1. maybe cause servers don't tell you that its open pk or pvp till you get in game. and 2. if you are going to drop stuff when you die whats point of paying for stuff just to lose it. lets say you get the best thing in game and all of a sudden you get pked and it drops your a sad f*** aren't you.

Your kidding right? look at Runescape both players risk losing all their items when they die and if they manage to beat their opponent they gain rewards, this is the way Pking works not killing someone only to find out they don't drop any items.Seriously if your so afraid of losing items go play WoW or some other carebear game.

[Avarwen]

I agree PVP can be fun but not when you are forced to do so. I like games that allow the player to chose their server PVP or PVE. Getting killed by a level 30 when you're level 5 just trying level up sucks because it makes leveling take a ridiculous amount of time. Now that I know this I won't be playing Either saga unless they get a PVE server.

[Elion]

And you know, odds are it'll be similar to UO where if you do kill someone, you quickly can become a murderer and not be able to enter ANY towns besides one.. that was full of other murderers who would often kill you. That status wouldn't wear off for a REALLY long time too, so even when you got great shit from killing people, you certainly had to pay for it.

You could even put BOUNTIES on people who killed you. Some people in the original UO had bounties in the millions, it was pretty cool.

And come on, theres no open pvp till LEVEL 45. Odds are 1% of you will make it that far. People seem to be completely ignoring this fact. And since this game is more than likely a cash shop game, I doubt those items will even drop when you die.

[Avarwen]

Your kidding right? look at Runescape both players risk losing all their items when they die and if they manage to beat their opponent they gain rewards, this is the way Pking works not killing someone only to find out they don't drop any items.Seriously if your so afraid of losing items go play WoW or some other carebear game.

Not everyone wants to wast their life sitting in front of a computer all day. If I work hard in game to get something I would like to keep it. I don't have all day to try and get the same item again or endless amounts of cash to buy the same item again. I mean really it can't be that hard for a game to have a PK and non-PK server that way you get more players form BOTH sides.