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I really really don't get it.
Humans always die.
Even if you're making the world a better place for future generations. Those people die. o.o
But people continue to live. Why? I really don't get it. I don't even know why I'm still alive =.=
Making the best of it? Blerrrr, the end result is the same! Gah.
I guess that's my view :\
I guess this can be a... "Post you're view on life" thread.
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Well people die...
I think that life is pre determined. Or "fate" is there.
Its the only reason why it explains deja vu to me.
I think we get deja vu because life is already in a set path for us.
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The scientific explaination for a deja vu is when one part of your brain works faster than the other.
Which gives you that feeling it happened before.
Of course, I never accept anything unless I've seen it. Seeing that brain-work will never be possible for me. therefore, yeah, I don't believe it.
I also don't know if fate is true or not, but I'm not someone who denys other's beliefs.
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i don't feel life is pre-determined
i am a huge believer in chance and luck
i feel the flip of a coin can decide a fate
every time i go to do something i put it in the perspective of a flip of a coin or the roll of a die (always carry my dnd 18 sided die)
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/agreedOriginally Posted by Useless
and to people who have a fear of dying...why?
were all going to kick the bucket someday, stop worrying and live your life while you can
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I don't know if this is deja vu...
But when you are dreaming I see images of it already happening before.
I usually have it once a week.
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I don't understand the fear of dying either but I don't get it.
Why? why live life while you can while it's going to come with the same end result? death death and more "omfg I'm dead"...
EDIT:
Cereal&Milk
Is that why you live? xD
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youll still feel my presence even after im dead
this shits enternal, ill rock the heavens well
and even if they dont let me in heaven, ill raise hell
thats my view on life, leave a landmark
what a bull view on things...
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Here's the secret to life: you people over-complicate it. There must always be a meaning to you. A set purpose for why you have been born, why you are alive. Here's another secret: you're her e to live. It's that simple.
When you are born on this beautiful Earth we have, there's no reason, you were just born. You have no predetermined path or a road of life that you must walk one. You pave your own path. You live how you want. This is what life is about.
Life isn't like Monopoly or Candyland. Those are boardgames.
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Fate doesn't exist in any manner that is pre-destined. Essentially, things you do in life to help sculpt your future, but that's about it. For there to be fate, the future would have to exist, and it doesn't; it's conceptual.
My view on life that people should stop trying to find a reason for being alive and just make one themselves.
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I unno I already told you I think living is more important to focus on than dying.
Like that saying that tells you to live to the fullest, 'cause no one makes it out alive.
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That was really weird. Look at the post times and content.
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Oh. I thought that was the depressing version of the video. It's just the music video.
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With the whole life being pre determined aspect is everything really. Your choices in life no matter if you flip a coin or not would already be determined.
In my way of thinking, everything we do is already chosen. Your actions to believe it or not is also a part of "fate."
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Answer me this: why do you think this way?
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Lmao,Oh. I thought that was the depressing version of the video. It's just the music video.
Nice job C&M.
I understand what you're all saying.
But I guess it's all a matter of perspective.
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Because of Deja Vu.
We dream about events in the future. Which means that they would already be pre determined in life.
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one of the great mysteries of life, noone can answer your question because an answer doesn't exist
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Welcome to the absurdity of existence.
Why am I in University? Why do you want an education? Why do I want to make a difference that won't last? Why do I do things that ultimately don't matter.
The Atheist Answer: Does your life have to mean something? Humans may not exist for a reason. Their accomplishments may not last forever. But there is a reason people do the things they do. Pleasure. Be it intellectual or physical. Be it the pleasure of watching a great T.V. show, or the pleasure of getting a great *******. The pleasure of philosophy, or the pleasure a great hamburger.
While I don't agree with Richard Taylor's essay on the meaning of life, he does bring up a very valid point. I shall use the same analogy as him.
In the Myth of Sisyphus, Sisyphus has greatly offended the gods, and is forced to live an eternal life of suffering. He has to roll a stone up a hill only for it to roll back down again. He will do this forever. The stone will never stay on top of the hill, and he will never have ANY rest.
Now, imagine that Sisyphus was implanted with some kind of desire or urge, one that would never diminish, to roll stones up a hill. He would be accomplishing his one desire for eternity. Does his life now have meaning? No -- but I'd be incredibly jealous of him! He has an eternity of pleasure ahead of him!
Point is, the only way to avoid the absurdity of life is to look at our actions at face value, rather than trying to find a "greater" meaning. Why do people continue to live? Because life is full of pleasure. You just have to find it.
It sounds to me like you're having an existential crisis. Philosophers can be very convincing (I'm assuming you're reading some Nietzsche?), what with their clever rhetoric and world wide acclaim. But I suggest that you broaden your horizon a bit, and realize that there is a converse way of looking at everything.
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I hope life isnt set up. Just thinking about it makes me feel like i have no control of what even happens in my life, and that its just a course, and im letting it run out with time.
You do what you want with life, and thats whats right. The dude next to you can have his own rules, you will have yours. You dont have to be what your father wants you to be, or what that dude next to you is going to be.
Who knows whats waiting for us. How we evolve and learn is up to us.
Humans can do extraordinary things. I believe we are yet to see the full potential of what a human can do or will do.
Who knows what Deja Vu really is. It could be a possible view into the future, and if humans can control that, or how it works, it could lead to great things.
Who knows tho. You dont. I dont.
We can only assume and have opinions and hold grudges on opinions we dont approve of.
Like we do.
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What is the meaning of life? WHy did "God" if he exist put us on this planet we call Earth?
Is it jsut so we can be his friends when he first created Adam? Or he just wana see how we would function as people. Like some sort of "experiments" you might say.
Fate is hard to say. Let say if u work hard in life, you gona be rich some days. YOu might say its ur fate to be rich/ or it cause ur work ethnics that get u there. But u might also be poor even if u work very hard. Is it ur fate to be poor or is it just your dam bad luck?
If time never stop, because theres always tomorrow. Then wat about in the beggining? When did time start? Since theres always yesterday? Wat the fuk?
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Actually, I've always thought like this x.x
It's not really a crisis as a matter of how I think o.o.
My mind hit the line of realizing thing entirely too fast. If that makes any sense... I see what you're saying but the thing is my thought can also be of the mind of an atheist o.o.
-is atheist-
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Modern physics disagrees with you.
determinism != belief of fate.
The idea of fate presumes that greater meaning exists. "Why did he do this? It was his fate." It was his fate because god made it so, it determinism is a concept of causality. The idea of "free will" in a causal world is simply an illusion created through semantic equivalency. Implies, Causes, and if/then are all equivalents. However, when the word "if" is used, there is a presumption that something can EITHER go one way or another. It can't.
A -> B
B -> C
C -> D
D -> E
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A -> E HS 1-4
SAME AS:
A causes B
B causes C
C causes D
D causes E
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Thus, A causes E HS 1-4
SAME AS
If A, then B
If B, then C
If C, then D
If D, then E
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Thus, If A, then E HS 1-4
SAME AS
If I hit you in the head with a stick, It will hurt
If it hurts, you will be upset
If you will be upset, I will feel guilty
If I feel guilty, I will ask you if you're "okay"
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Thus, if I hit you in the head with a stick, I will ask you if you're "okay" HS 1-4
So on and so forth.
They all mean the same thing. However, because in english, the word "if" presumes a possible future occurance of A, people tend to believe that the outcome can be changed. It cannot. The reason people tend to assume free will exists, is because they believe that a prevention of A, would also mean the prevention of E. However, A is not the start of the causal chain. In fact, the start of the causal chain was the start of the universe. In reality, there are many more causal variables before AND after A. I'll add a few more variables to the derivation to prove this point.
If you're reminded of your gym class, dead baby jokes will suddenly come to your mind,
If dead baby jokes suddenly come to your mind, we'll be telling dead baby jokes.
If we're telling dead baby jokes, I will make a joke about dead babies,
If I make a joke about dead babies, you will make a joke about my dead parrot
If you make a joke about my dead parrot, you will piss me off a lot,
If you piss me off a lot, I will grab a stick
If I grab a stick, I will hit you in the head with a stick
If I hit you in the head with a stick, It will hurt
If it hurts, you will be upset
If you will be upset, I will feel guilty
If I feel guilty, I will ask you if you're "okay"
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Thus, if you're reminded of your gym class, I will ask you if you're "okay"
We can also add variables at the end, and continue the chain. There are an infinite amount of variables to take into consideration, such as your mood, your physical status, your environment, or even the weather. However, each one of these have their own causal chains that are intertwined with one another.
It's really hard to wrap your head around at first, so to approach this topic another way, I will talk about time.
In physics, the fourth dimension (time) is a static object. Seeing as we see only in the third dimension, we are observing instants of the fourth dimension. Similarly to how, the second dimension can only see flat planes (instants) of the third dimension. However, we do not shape or mold the fourth dimension. Such is the concept of the tesseract.
Another way to approach this. If time were to reset, and the universe would start again, with that very same big bang, would everything happen the exact same way? Yes. In order to change the future, you must have prior knowledge of the future. To have prior knowledge of the future is impossible.
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