Quote Originally Posted by Norrin Radd View Post
Fate doesn't exist in any manner that is pre-destined. Essentially, things you do in life to help sculpt your future, but that's about it. For there to be fate, the future would have to exist, and it doesn't; it's conceptual.

My view on life that people should stop trying to find a reason for being alive and just make one themselves.
Modern physics disagrees with you.

determinism != belief of fate.

The idea of fate presumes that greater meaning exists. "Why did he do this? It was his fate." It was his fate because god made it so, it determinism is a concept of causality. The idea of "free will" in a causal world is simply an illusion created through semantic equivalency. Implies, Causes, and if/then are all equivalents. However, when the word "if" is used, there is a presumption that something can EITHER go one way or another. It can't.

A -> B
B -> C
C -> D
D -> E
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A -> E HS 1-4

SAME AS:

A causes B
B causes C
C causes D
D causes E
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Thus, A causes E HS 1-4

SAME AS

If A, then B
If B, then C
If C, then D
If D, then E
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Thus, If A, then E HS 1-4

SAME AS

If I hit you in the head with a stick, It will hurt
If it hurts, you will be upset
If you will be upset, I will feel guilty
If I feel guilty, I will ask you if you're "okay"
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Thus, if I hit you in the head with a stick, I will ask you if you're "okay" HS 1-4

So on and so forth.

They all mean the same thing. However, because in english, the word "if" presumes a possible future occurance of A, people tend to believe that the outcome can be changed. It cannot. The reason people tend to assume free will exists, is because they believe that a prevention of A, would also mean the prevention of E. However, A is not the start of the causal chain. In fact, the start of the causal chain was the start of the universe. In reality, there are many more causal variables before AND after A. I'll add a few more variables to the derivation to prove this point.

If you're reminded of your gym class, dead baby jokes will suddenly come to your mind,
If dead baby jokes suddenly come to your mind, we'll be telling dead baby jokes.
If we're telling dead baby jokes, I will make a joke about dead babies,
If I make a joke about dead babies, you will make a joke about my dead parrot
If you make a joke about my dead parrot, you will piss me off a lot,
If you piss me off a lot, I will grab a stick
If I grab a stick, I will hit you in the head with a stick
If I hit you in the head with a stick, It will hurt
If it hurts, you will be upset
If you will be upset, I will feel guilty
If I feel guilty, I will ask you if you're "okay"
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Thus, if you're reminded of your gym class, I will ask you if you're "okay"

We can also add variables at the end, and continue the chain. There are an infinite amount of variables to take into consideration, such as your mood, your physical status, your environment, or even the weather. However, each one of these have their own causal chains that are intertwined with one another.

It's really hard to wrap your head around at first, so to approach this topic another way, I will talk about time.

In physics, the fourth dimension (time) is a static object. Seeing as we see only in the third dimension, we are observing instants of the fourth dimension. Similarly to how, the second dimension can only see flat planes (instants) of the third dimension. However, we do not shape or mold the fourth dimension. Such is the concept of the tesseract.

Another way to approach this. If time were to reset, and the universe would start again, with that very same big bang, would everything happen the exact same way? Yes. In order to change the future, you must have prior knowledge of the future. To have prior knowledge of the future is impossible.