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    Ok i was really bored one night and i started to research on some weird shit.

    and that later came to me researching "genetic memory".

    Is it like,Real? can some genes that are passed on to you during birth from your parents,infact hold memories of them or there ancestors?

    Discuss,Now>_>

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    Hasn't been proven but could explain "instinct". And if anything I'd say it was passed down perhaps through your DNA seeing as only 1.5% of it actually codes for proteins which makes up your entire body. Somewhere in that other 98.5% there could be the coding for enzymes and aminoacids which could trigger responses in your brain, thus causing you to have an innate ability to react to certain events or have habits from birth, aka instinct. :o

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    It's possible, but highly improbable.

    Haven't looked into it, but I doubt there is much evidence for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenonight2 View Post
    It's possible, but highly improbable.

    Haven't looked into it, but I doubt there is much evidence for it.
    Doe's it need to much evidence? I mean..it makes perfect sence..

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    assassins creed much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtGrimmVegas View Post
    assassins creed much?
    Uhm..What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtGrimmVegas View Post
    assassins creed much?
    Yes probably if Technology gets so advance we could tap into our genes and see our ancestor's past.

    Quote Originally Posted by holy11 View Post
    Uhm..What?
    Hes saying you are rip your genetic idea from Assassin's creed

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    Quote Originally Posted by holy11 View Post
    Is it like,Real? can some genes that are passed on to you during birth from your parents,infact hold memories of them or there ancestors?
    i certainly doubt this

    i think it can hold vital body information, like to where send the brain impulses to breath, to let your heart beat etc


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    Im pretty sure Timothy Lery (sp?) talked about this some

    Keep in mind he did a lot of LSD


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    Quote Originally Posted by Espada1 View Post
    Yes probably if Technology gets so advance we could tap into our genes and see our ancestor's past.



    Hes saying you are rip your genetic idea from Assassin's creed
    I like didnt read any of the cut scene and shit so,idk what hes talkin bout

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    Quote Originally Posted by holy11 View Post
    Doe's it need to much evidence? I mean..it makes perfect sence..
    Just because it makes perfect sense theoretically does not mean it makes sense when facing reality.

    You can theorize a whole new system of physics if you wanted to, that is theoretically sound, but if it lacks any evidence, then it's a worse theory than the current model, the standard physics theory.

    The scientific model, which has shown itself to be pretty darn good at advancing the quality of life and progressing technology, requires that you accept the hypothesis which has the most evidence over the hypotheses that have lesser amounts of evidence. No matter which hypothesis it is. (and don't forget to try and prove all of those hypotheses wrong, while you're at it)

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    It's entirely possible. Have you ever had those dreams where you're running and running to try and get away something, but you can't gain any speed?
    Have you subsequently got on all fours and tried to pull yourself along the ground to gain speed or get away from whatever?

    That's a cause of genetic memory right there, going back millions of years to when we used to run on all fours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by power_gamer_6 View Post
    That's a cause of genetic memory right there, going back millions of years to when we used to run on all fours.
    I wouldn't call that a genetic memory, I'd call that more of an artifact of evolution.

    Genetic memory could be possible (eventually we could program a child to be able to do things right away, or have memories of someone else), I don't think it is too different of a concept from instinct (Babies apparently hold their breath after going into water, if you had to learn this, babies would likely drown when they were dunked).

    That being said, I don't think you have memories of your ancestors tied into your genes currently.

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    I run up the stairs on all fours.. people call me crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pok View Post
    I wouldn't call that a genetic memory, I'd call that more of an artifact of evolution.

    Genetic memory could be possible (eventually we could program a child to be able to do things right away, or have memories of someone else), I don't think it is too different of a concept from instinct (Babies apparently hold their breath after going into water, if you had to learn this, babies would likely drown when they were dunked).

    That being said, I don't think you have memories of your ancestors tied into your genes currently.
    Artifact of evolution... precisely. And how did it get to you? THROUGH GENES AND MEMORY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenonight2 View Post
    Just because it makes perfect sense theoretically does not mean it makes sense when facing reality.

    You can theorize a whole new system of physics if you wanted to, that is theoretically sound, but if it lacks any evidence, then it's a worse theory than the current model, the standard physics theory.

    The scientific model, which has shown itself to be pretty darn good at advancing the quality of life and progressing technology, requires that you accept the hypothesis which has the most evidence over the hypotheses that have lesser amounts of evidence. No matter which hypothesis it is. (and don't forget to try and prove all of those hypotheses wrong, while you're at it)
    Please don't use theory when talking about science in that way.

    At best his idea would be a hypothesis it wouldn't be a theory until proven true. I know you kind of corrected yourself later but still just adding my thoughts.

    But no I don't think we can carry memory from are ancestor's lifes. There is no evidence for it either just speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by power_gamer_6 View Post
    Artifact of evolution... precisely. And how did it get to you? THROUGH GENES AND MEMORY.
    I wouldn't call instinct necessarily memory, though, although it may feel like a memory sometimes.

    It could just be that we evolved a response mechanism that when given a certain input, we receive a feeling that guides our actions (instinct) that is not influenced by our ancestor's memories somehow becoming genes, but rather through simple natural selection. We gain a mutation in our gene that gives us this instinct that lets us know certain things that increase our evolutionary fitness, and so we produce more offspring.

    Please don't use theory when talking about science in that way.

    At best his idea would be a hypothesis it wouldn't be a theory until proven true. I know you kind of corrected yourself later but still just adding my thoughts.
    I never corrected myself, and I'm not sure what you're talking about.

    Yeah, sure, the idea of genetic memory is just a hypothesis. I know that, and I never denied it. However, he asked why you need evidence when an idea (hypothesis) makes perfect sense, and I explained to him what the scientific model has to say on that.

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    Lol, all I have to say; Shouldn't you be in your Ayurveda class right now, or seomthing? You are really wasting your time on this boards, if you can get to learn how cosmic energies talk to you, you know...
    Hilarious link, btw.

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    Nice one Ronin. You're cool, let me tell you. I know about cool.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pok View Post
    Genes yes, memory no. What I meant by an evolutionary artificat is: Some of the ways that our brain is wired (and therefore how we think and react) hasn't changed too much from our quadrapedal ancestors, so in some situations we might have tendencies to act similiarly to a previous ancestor. It isn't about having their memories, it is about being evolved from them and still having remnants of their parts.
    More to my point; when people say 'genetic MEMORY' they don't mean memory in the literal sense. It FEELS like remembering but it isn't actually. At one point this stuff was so crucial to survival that it became hardwired into our genes, and thus we "remember" through genetics; genetic memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by power_gamer_6 View Post
    More to my point; when people say 'genetic MEMORY' they don't mean memory in the literal sense. It FEELS like remembering but it isn't actually. At one point this stuff was so crucial to survival that it became hardwired into our genes, and thus we "remember" through genetics; genetic memory.
    Problem is they than start to get deja vues of memories from their grandparents, start to see auras, rethink their opinion on reincarnation (1/3 of all regular churchgoers in Germany believe in reincarnation; where the BS flocks it flocks thickly, but I personally wonder how they wrap up their heretic behavior into any form of spiritual sense.) and start to watch movies and buy books and bother normal people with how they can recharge their energies with gems and how to contact their guardian angel etc.

    All in the pretty sure fact that their lives suck and they need to start fantasizing to cope with the reason that it's their own fault.

    It's not "memory" and therefor the only point calling it one is, to make it look more as if it was.

    Genes are genes, you don't need "memory in genes", to understand what genes are and what they amount to; It's just a hindrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Problem is they than start to get deja vues of memories from their grandparents, start to see auras, rethink their opinion on reincarnation (1/3 of all regular churchgoers in Germany believe in reincarnation; where the BS flocks it flocks thickly, but I personally wonder how they wrap up their heretic behavior into any form of spiritual sense.) and start to watch movies and buy books and bother normal people with how they can recharge their energies with gems and how to contact their guardian angel etc.

    All in the pretty sure fact that their lives suck and they need to start fantasizing to cope with the reason that it's their own fault.

    It's not "memory" and therefor the only point calling it one is, to make it look more as if it was.

    Genes are genes, you don't need "memory in genes", to understand what genes are and what they amount to; It's just a hindrance.
    What the fυck are you talking about?

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    He's zoobaty bopping the zippity zop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by power_gamer_6 View Post
    What the fυck are you talking about?
    There is no "genetic memory".

    It does not exist.

    So what the **** are you on about?

    Do you remember stuff through your genes? Lol...

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    Proof pls ronin pls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaika View Post
    Proof pls ronin pls.
    Hahahahhaaha, best thing I ever heard.

    Prove that I am not the almighty god.

    Pls.

    [Just so to make further posting less necessary;
    I would like to see an example of how you imagine such a prove to be shaped, as that it might please you in your ignorance.
    If you need proof that something no one has ever witnessed is not there, you need help from other sides than from proof. You have already left the grounds of reality.

    Also it is freaking idiotic to bring metaphysical "proof" Bullcrap like this into a medical topic.
    I might even take it as an indicator, that the discussion about the facts is depleted on your side.]

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