why is it important to believe in a higher being?Originally Posted by Attila
I see no importance.
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why is it important to believe in a higher being?
I see no importance.
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Eh, it gives you hope. In fact all religions gives you hope. Then you have the fear, and some just need explanations. For me, it's because I wish to....live good in the afterlife...And because it's making me a better person to some extent.
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you don't need religion to have hope.
Life is beautiful and fantastic without the need of some dogma to explain it.
If you know this is your only life you will get then you will treat it with much more importance.
I think an eternity of living whether it be on this planet or in an after life would be torture.
There is no such thing as absolutes, everything eventually comes to an end.
People don't need the religious crutch they can walk without it. It causes more problems anyway.
All I can say is stop caring about what goes on after your dead becuase there is no answer. Start caring only about what goes on in this life becuase right now it's the only life you might ever get.
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Unfortunately I cannot fly, shoot lasers out of my eyes, or live forever now so that's something to look forward to. :P
Now I'm off to sleep.
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I would see it diffrently;
The world can only show things that are facts, which are true.
It can't show things that are wrong (this is the turned around definition of wrong).
We can only find things that are wrong by reiterating the contents of of the world.
We can have thoughts that are false (god doesn't throw dice, etc.)
The object of these thoughts can not exist (there are random events, so whatever god can be, he must be shaped in a way so that he does dice; A god that does not does not exist).
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It sounds to me like you want to go up to someone who is perfectly content and happy and try to talk them out of it.
If you're an Atheist, I can see why you're represented that way.
Ignorance is bliss. Let people be happy.
Because, again if you're an Atheist, You're going around telling people who are, again happy, that they're going to rot in the ground forever. Do people want to hear that when they're happy? NO.
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Actually I could refute you on many parts of what you said, but it would be a waste becuase you already believe such absurd things. Tell me do you believe in noah's flood, the man living in a fish for 3 days and the part about a talking snake ect ect?
Next your going to tell me you think evolution is false.
i know, i didnt feel like havin to think which term to use, species sounded good.
your ****in implying it, your sayin it behind your forestry of words...the "how irrational" wouldnt be needed if if you wernt tryin to disprove/belittle. and no reason to beleive in a god right now?
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The fact that some squirrels have genes producing brown fur and some producing black fur is irrelevant to my arguement. Even traits produced by random mutations of genes are shaped by evolution (they are either killed off, or float around in the population).
That also doesn't change the fact that humans and apes exist alongside each other - and therefore one could not be FROM the other, because they are contemporaries.
Also, they are called 'swear' words for a reason, they are offensive. Try not to use them as much.
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So...if God is omnipotent, why does he make earth such a shitty place?
God is like that kid in the YouTube video slamming his cat into a wall just because he can.
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If you watch the video then you would understand.
It proves my point.
I am not changing what they believe I am only telling them they haven't answered the question.
It would be as if your part of the jury and you must come up with either guilty or not guilty. And you give the judge the answer of I choose neither.
You have basically not answered the question.
if you say you don't believe he is guilty then you automatically fall onto the not guilty side.
Like I said if you watched the video it will prove my point.
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did you just call me a ******.
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If the question is: "Do you believe God exists?", then why can you not accept "I am undecided." as an answer?
The problem lies with you. Not agnosticism.
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No, Irony. I was agreeing with you.did you just call me a ******.
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no he is calling me that becuase he has nothing better to say.did you just call me a ******.
A strawman is all he has.
undecided is not an answer. You either believe a claim or you don't.
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Agnosticism has nothing to do with that question.
Do I believe or not believe in a god?
Yes there may be a middle ground. How can you say someone can not be undecided, uncommitted to either sides?
There is black and white, and then there is gray. I am sure millions of people view this question with a "gray" answer. They do not choose a side to believe.
Like I said, yes I did say I was Agnostic. I brought it up as something I believe, that influences me to say that I have a middle ground view of your question. I did not bring it up to answer whether I believed or not in a god. But it was something I shared, that has to do with why I am not on either side of your question, thus answering your question.
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Pretty sure a person's decision about his beliefs isnt like a war where if you dont take sides and you are in the middle, you will get shot anyways.
Until a war among religions come, such labels need not be so distinct.
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addressing Doll becuase I think don't like ignoring someone posts when they spent time typing it up to direct at me.
I didn't ask if you know there is a god I am asking if you belief in a god.
You have mistaken what I was asking.
I said agnostism is different from an answer to a belief. It is an answer to the question is there a god.
I am asking do you belief there is a god. If you say I am agnostic then you have not answered the question.
Like when I used the court example.
the person is innocent until proven guilty.
You are in the jury and you must come up with either guilty or not guilty. You give the judge the answer as neither. This is not answering whether the person is guilty or not.
If you say I don't believe the person is guilty then you are automatically on the not guilty side.
Now there may be another part on that side being those that believe the person innocent too.
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this is why innocent people end up in jail.
not everything is so black and white.
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In conclusion you don't have to know anything to have a belief in it.
ok that didn't make sense.
I said innocent until proven guilty, I didn't say guilty until proven innocent.
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Why would you insult Him if you are Atheist, and do not believe he exists?
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Actually if what that picture says is true, it would mean that what is said in the bible is a lie and if anything in the bible is a lie then god is a lie.
So I don't think it's saying he exists at all. Therefore your point would be invalid sir.
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The way you're talking makes it seem like Atheists don't even know that others believe in god and they simply don't believe in him because they don't know about him.
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Not true.
Stories are written today with grains of truth, but embellished for unknown reasons, because people are generally stupid.
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That's a sophism.
It's not really possible to say:
I do not believe that it's right to say there is definitely a god;
I however say that it's right to say there is definitely a god.
You do not believe in god if you say that in your individual position you can not answer the question of existence.
Your middle ground is there, just not what you pretend it to be.
Agnostics do not believe in god.
You can not make a statement of faith?
Then you do not have it.
[Lock it for what purpose?
Imho it is pretty dumb to lock a thread, because it's evident, that people are still wanting to post (constructively) in for whatever reasons they see fit, but if you want to do that, go ahead.]
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