God Existence

[napaj]

Do You Believe in God? Please State Your Reason. You Could Put Some Verses that proof God's Existence. Enjoy this Spiritual Debate

[DProxy]

This will start a new end for you..

But personally i dont believe in god.. because i don't know if GOD is real or not and no one can prove his real.. when someone can then ill believe GOD is in existence.

[Jin-Roh]

PFT! I'm gods father. The good people at scientology'r'us let me know this!

Here is my son, who was the father of jesus.


Ya rly,

~Roh

[Cingal]

Don't be silly.

I grew out of fairy tails ages ago.

[Raiyne]

I don't believe in anything, we're all too fuzzy on the details so I don't bother with questioning our origin because I'm not gonna solve the mystery, I'll just wait until people find out with a solid explanation.

That young man was ALBERT EINSTEIN.

That was not Albert Einstein, and that was a really stupid argument, and if I had a student who dared argue with such nonsense to me I'd give him hell for it, especially for that idiotic brain comment.

[Avarance]

I believe in a universal God, a force out there in the universe. I do not believe in a God that guides us spiritually, to me God is just a stronger entity that is part of our universe.

[Pok]

Anyways, I do believe In A God but not so much the one in the Bible. I mean someone had to create this all. If the Big Bang made the universe, what made the big bang?

If god made the universe, what created god? This arguement is just adding in another link in the chain of questions.

Sometimes i do but sometimes i don't.
I use to pray alot, i mean alot, and whatever i prayed for actually got worse. I prayed to get good grades, for my family's health, for my mom to be happy since shes been through a lot.

But everything got worse and never better so that turned me away from god completely.

That isn't evidence against a god, that is evidence against a god that cares about the things you care about.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

Yes I have, working with fruitflies in a lab. Yes, other people have with discovering strains of antibiotic resistance bacteria.

another moot point. somone could just as easily point out "the lack of any evidence in favor of god's non-existence".

You can't really argue like that, you need proof to get your idea off the ground (There are purple dinosaurs living in my closet, would need proof of those buggers, not having people coming to try and disprove the fact that they exist [Oh, they went out for lunch right now]).

are there not contradictions in science? competing theories and constantly changing arguments?

Yes, but you are allowed (and welcomed to if you have valid proof against a them) to challenge a theory, you can't challenge dogma without being a heretic.

contradiction in religion means that there can be no god??? well do contradictions in scientific theories detract from the following as a whole? no of course not, because we learn.

Well, if a scientific theory has contradictions proving it is wrong, it is thrown out, does this mean that we should throw out religions with contradictions and accept they are wrong but a god might exist with a different interpretation? You're going to piss off more than a few people trying to do that.

Personally i don't beleive in the bible, i think it was some story that some drugged out dude wrote a while back, i think jesus existed but he wasn't the son of god.

I have a fairly similiar idea. I think that the bible was a best seller back in its day, it had a cult status and everyone was reading it because it was so awesome compared to the other stuff (Imagine if everyone suddenly was obsessed with Fight Club or Harry Potter). I also think that Mary was a bit of a tramp and cheated on her husband with everyone she could find (including a certain three wise men who bribed her not to tell her hulking carpenter husband or something) and was somehow able to convince her husband that the boy was from an immaculate conception instead of a cluster**** at the pub.

I may not be right, but I think that story is a lot funnier :3

[Norrin Radd]

Agnosticism is logical but it isn't a belief it's a statement made on what you can know.

You either believe in something or you don't.

Well that's clearly wrong, isn't it?

I am living proof that you can neither believe in, nor deny God's existence. I don't believe in God, I don't DISBELIEVE God.

I BELIEVE that it's ridiculous to jump on either side of the fence since there's no proof for either that convinces me.

Try again.

[Ronin]

Nobody can prove or disprove God, nobody is sure of anything but their own beliefs.

I.e: Agnosticism is logical.

Well, I don't find it very necessary to "disproof" god.
The fact, that he is not there right now is enough.

Take it for example, you surely have a chair in your reach;
It might just develop into the second entrance of Alice's Wonderland tomorrow, but when you look at it right now, it's not.

"The world is everything that is the case."

Nothing else...

[xkittyxlicksx]

I feel that most humans need to believe in a higher power because the idea of chaos is, well, chaotic. Most people do not seek disorder, they want to know that their lives are neatly lined up in some form or another. Also, the idea of the world being completely material (just what we can see / touch / experience) is also frightening, because it has a limit. If there is nothing beyond the material world then it suggests something finite, and not limitless.

My own belief is that people turn to a God, diety, some form of higher power, in times of need and when they are too lost to manage their own problems. People turn to God when they want something, or are feeling run down. In a world like ours filled with people that are hurting and want a way to escape their hurt - it's not suprising that religion has the power that it does.

This is why I oppose religion (not faith but organised religion). I see religion as a tool to control the masses, that too often deviates from its original purpose - to teach morals and bring people together by their faith. I think it is disgusting how human beings have perverted faith into a tool, which is all too often used for control and manipulation.

I do not oppose faith, I am liberal minded enough to accept the fact that some people need faith in their lives.

[nawrasz]

It's what i believed in since my parents told me about it.

[Celor]

I'm a Protestant/Christian -- I forgot the difference, nor do I truly care, to be honest. So, I believe in the Lord. However, I also actively read arguments against God, and several others. In fact, I rather liked Nietzsche's "God is dead" quote.

So, I do believe. Why? Because.. have you ever truly just taken a long, hard look at the world? There are so many incredibly complex things, it makes it nearly impossible for them to have occurred at random. I mean, for Christ's sakes, look at DNA!

I'm not going to argue, though. I'm in too good of a mood. Flame each other if y' want.

[Str1der]

Yes, I believe in God, whose Son Jesus died so that we may live.

[Deimos]

you can't challenge dogma without being a heretic

thats idiotic.

this is why i never bother with these arguments. people make too many assumptions.

[Norrin Radd]

Yes, I believe in God, whose Son Jesus died so that we may live.

I prefer Son Gohan, personally.

Seriously though, we were all alive anyway. Don't you think Jesus was overreacting a bit? "I'll die so you can all live.", when we were all here?

[Popsai]

I dont take religion seriously, so no i dont.

[IronyTaken]

I don't believe in Jesus since there isn't even proof he existed aside from the bible which can't even agree on birth and death they are 30 years difference on both. Plus the bible isn't a reliable historic source.

[Str1der]

I prefer Son Gohan, personally.

Seriously though, we were all alive anyway. Don't you think Jesus was overreacting a bit? "I'll die so you can all live.", when we were all here?

You know where I stand and I know were you stand. No point in jumping in to an arguement we both know won't change anything.

*EDIT for IronyTaken* You should do your research. The MAN Jesus has been proven to have existed for a long time. He's mentioned in historical records, and a man named Jesus did stir up a lot of commotion and was crucified for it. Whether you believe that man to be the Son of God is your decision, but stating he didn't exist is silly.

[Z0MBiE]

Yes, I believe in God, whose Son Jesus died so that we may live.

so if he lived, we all died?

was jesus a time bomb?

[Norrin Radd]

He did say "I come not to bring peace, but the sword.".

So maybe they thought "Dude wants to be a gladiator.", but wouldn't allow him to because he was a Jew.

[Str1der]

nothing, becuase that is not evidence. Jospehus wrote this stuff 70 years after Jesus' death and rebirth. This is not a reliable source.

Not one contemporaneous Historian has recorded any history on this Jesus.

there were many contemporaneous hisotrians of the 1st century palestine that refer to hundreds of supposed messiahs but not one refered to this jesus who had supposedly cause all this commotion. I mean it is impossible for him to start a riot at the temple of jerusalem on passover and not have it recorded.

You're just choosing to be blind. If you're refusing to believe what a HISTORIAN wrote down, then choose to. The Romans were noted for their documents and files that they kept. Why is one, just because it was 70 years after the death of Jesus, less notable than the others? I don't care if you don't believe in God, or Jesus, or accept Christianity, but the least you can do is admit that a man named Jesus did exsit. Not doing so just really makes you look foolish, as I can do the exact same with any Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or Jewish diety/prohpet.

[hian]

You're just choosing to be blind. If you're refusing to believe what a HISTORIAN wrote down, then choose to. The Romans were noted for their documents and files that they kept. Why is one, just because it was 70 years after the death of Jesus, less notable than the others? I don't care if you don't believe in God, or Jesus, or accept Christianity, but the least you can do is admit that a man named Jesus did exsit. Not doing so just really makes you look foolish, as I can do the exact same with any Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or Jewish diety/prohpet.

Nope, completely different.

You're the one choosing to be blind by failing to be critical to your sources and denying the results brought forth by the scientific process.

[Z0MBiE]

There is no God.

Adults with imaginary friends are stupid.
- End of story.

*hands zymb the flame shield*

[Thas]

There is no God in my opinion.

Adults with imaginary friends are stupid, though its just my opinion.
- End of story.

Fixed Your post was just very idiotic and offensive.

[Manic]

There is no God.

Adults with imaginary friends are stupid.
- End of story.

The same could be said of silly girls who vie for attention by giving blowjobs to bananas, but for me to make such an accusation would be incredibly offensive. Almost as offensive as if I called all religious peoples stupid.