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    http://sg.news.yahoo.com/ap/20090314...e-c8e2916.html

    ROME - An archaeological dig near Venice has unearthed the 16th-century remains of a woman with a brick stuck between her jaws _ evidence, experts say, that she was believed to be a vampire.



    The unusual burial is thought to be the result of an ancient vampire-slaying ritual. It suggests the legend of the mythical bloodsucking creatures was tied to medieval ignorance of how diseases spread and what happens to bodies after death, experts said.

    The well-preserved skeleton was found in 2006 on the Lazzaretto Nuovo island, north of the lagoon city, amid other corpses buried in a mass grave during an epidemic of plague that hit Venice in 1576.

    "Vampires don't exist, but studies show people at the time believed they did," said Matteo Borrini, a forensic archaeologist and anthropologist at Florence University who studied the case over the last two years. "For the first time we have found evidence of an exorcism against a vampire."

    Medieval texts show the belief in vampires was fueled by the disturbing appearance of decomposing bodies, Borrini told The Associated Press by telephone.

    During epidemics, mass graves were often reopened to bury fresh corpses and diggers would chance upon older bodies that were bloated, with blood seeping out of their mouth and with an inexplicable hole in the shroud used to cover their face.

    "These characteristics are all tied to the decomposition of bodies," Borrini said. "But they saw a fat, dead person, full of blood and with a hole in the shroud, so they would say: 'This guy is alive, he's drinking blood and eating his shroud.'"

    Modern forensic science shows the bloating is caused by a buildup of gases, while fluid seeping from the mouth is pushed up by decomposing organs, Borrini said. The shroud would have been consumed by bacteria found in the mouth area, he said.

    At the time however, what passed for scientific texts taught that "shroud-eaters" were vampires who fed on the cloth and cast a spell that would spread the plague in order to increase their ranks.

    To kill the undead creatures, the stake-in-the-heart method popularized by later literature was not enough: A stone or brick had to be forced into the vampire's mouth so that it would starve to death, Borrini said.

    That's what is believed to have happened to the woman found on the Lazzaretto island, which was used as a quarantine zone by Venice. Aged around 60, she died of the plague during the epidemic that also claimed the life of the painter Titian.

    Much later, someone jammed the brick into her mouth when the grave was reopened. Borrini said that marks and breaks left by blunt instruments on several among more than 100 skeletons found by the archaeologists show that the grave was reused in a later epidemic.

    Such a reconstruction of events is plausible, as is the link to the superstitions about "shroud-eaters," said Piero Mannucci, the vice president of the Italian Society of Anthropology and Ethnology.

    "Maybe a priest or a gravedigger put the brick in her mouth, which is what was normally done in such cases," Mannucci said.

    The anthropologist, who did not take part in Borrini's research, said that at a time when bacteria were unknown, such superstitions were a way for the terrified population to explain the waves of plague epidemics that killed millions during the Middle Ages. Jews were also often accused of spreading the disease.

    Borrini said the discovery shows that vampires in popular culture were originally quite different from the elegant, aristocratic blood-drinker depicted in Bram Stoker's 1897 novel "Dracula" and in countless Hollywood revisitations.

    "The real vampire of tradition was different," he said. "It was just a decomposing body."

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    interesting read
    brick to the mouth lol

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    like a facepalm but better its mouthbrick

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    There was already a thread about this.

    EDIT: My bad, can't find it! Oh well, /unlock.

    Sorry Cinder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by power_gamer_6 View Post
    There was already a thread about this.

    EDIT: My bad, can't find it! Oh well, /unlock.

    Sorry Cinder!
    Its rather common sense to look at the article date and see if anyone posted, or do a simple search on "Vampire", which I did before posting.

    I'm still sending out PMs to the admins on why you locked my previous thread. Seems you're too trigger happy on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinderboy View Post
    Its rather common sense to look at the article date and see if anyone posted, or do a simple search on "Vampire", which I did before posting.

    I'm still sending out PMs to the admins on why you locked my previous thread. Seems you're too trigger happy on me.
    Alright, keep thinkin' that .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinderboy View Post
    Thanks to power_gamer for unlocking this thread, which he locked in the first place without any grounds for locking.

    Happy ?

    The vampire stories really originated during the times where epidemic was rampant, so were the witches' stories (burned on a stake).
    He locked it in the first place because he thought there was already a thread like this. He may have been right, but he couldn't find the link so he unlocked it.


    I love everything about vampires, until Twilight came and completely ruined their image with Sparklepires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowley View Post
    He locked it in the first place because he thought there was already a thread like this. He may have been right, but he couldn't find the link so he unlocked it.


    I love everything about vampires, until Twilight came and completely ruined their image with Sparklepires.
    doing a simple search on "vampires" will show you there is no such topic within the first 5 pages, how he thought there is a similar thread im not sure, but i dont "thought", i do a simple check.

    twilight is cashing on those teenage gals, the reports and surveys shown the fans to be them in majority. vampires in popular culture are getting further and further away from the classic interpretations of them.

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    lol, mouthbrick.. well thanks for info was a interesting 2min read.

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    Pretty sweet little read.

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    Awesome, but I noticed how most of the replies in this thread were mainly of arguing.

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    Cinder, he THOUGHT there was a thread posted already. Give him a break, god damn. He unlocked it, it was an accident. It isn't the end of the world. You'll be okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xynh View Post
    Cinder, he THOUGHT there was a thread posted already. Give him a break, god damn. He unlocked it, it was an accident. It isn't the end of the world. You'll be okay.
    apparently i stopped, why are people like you chipping in 30min after everything ended ? stick to the damn thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xynh View Post
    Cinder, he THOUGHT there was a thread posted already. Give him a break, god damn. He unlocked it, it was an accident. It isn't the end of the world. You'll be okay.
    He probably thought,

    "I am just posting an article to entertain OnRPGers but someone has got to ruin my sake for everyone."

    Yea, so just chill it out

    But damn it, this article is truly interesting huh.

    Come on, where are the vampires~~ suck my blood and turn me one LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviarel View Post
    He probably thought,

    "I am just posting an article to entertain OnRPGers but someone has got to ruin my sake for everyone."

    Yea, so just chill it out

    But damn it, this article is truly interesting huh.

    Come on, where are the vampires~~ suck my blood and turn me one LOL.
    eternal life is good... but only being able to move in the dark is kind of a turn off

    wait, modern vampires drink tomato juice, and can actually move around in broad daylight eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinderboy View Post
    modern vampires drink tomato juice, and can actually move around in broad daylight eh :hmm:
    Rofl, not technically. I know what you're getting at though. :P

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    No such thing as vampires.

    This topic and the news article should read.

    human skeleton found.

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    I bet Edward Cullen gave that guy a big boot!

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    Sheesh no respect at all here at OnRPG. Just butt out of their business guys...Cinder has been contributing to OnRPG since way before a lot of you gosayers have even joined. Just remember that.

    But anywho, that is an interesting article...although it doesn't exactly give any hard evidence...but I guess more theorizing is better than nothing. I think I'm going to read it again...There's something I didn't quiet understand...or maybe I missed it all together.
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    it was basically a skeleton of a human. They discovered a brick in it's mouth which points to the human being suspected as a vampire.

    They would insert bricks into the dead corpse accused of being a vampire. They believed it would shield the vampire from raising from the dead and feasting on other humans.

    Something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronyTaken View Post
    it was basically a skeleton of a human. They discovered a brick in it's mouth which points to the human being suspected as a vampire.

    They would insert bricks into the dead corpse accused of being a vampire. They believed it would shield the vampire from raising from the dead and feasting on other humans.

    Something like that.
    Well that clears up everything about the brick being in the womens mouth.

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    Woah, thats really cool :O

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    That was my great-great-great grandfather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymbaline View Post
    That was my great-great-great grandfather.
    We might be related >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gattsu View Post
    We might be related >_>
    Ohai grandma.

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