Well, if your looking for a budget card. DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT buying the factory OC'ed versions.. thats kinda stupid in my opinion. When you can just raise the fan speeds manually and manually overclock the gfx card yourself for free. Just get the normal 4870 without overclock, but a true "budget" card would really be the 4850. It's all up to how much your willin got spend for performance, but let me say this again. Don't buy cards already overclocked...please?