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    Viruses are hardly examples of force, but rather subterfuge and simple espionage. A virus disguises itself as the food of cells, and the cell ingests it, but when it is ingested, it releases its RNA and hijacks the cell.

    If you want a better example through the biology route, go with cancer. These cells don't stop growing until they've destroyed everything and taken all the resources the body has, similar to many ethnic groups throughout history that "won" through simple sheer reproduction ability, which allowed them to control most of the resources in a geographic area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenonight2 View Post
    Viruses are hardly examples of force, but rather subterfuge and simple espionage. A virus disguises itself as the food of cells, and the cell ingests it, but when it is ingested, it releases its RNA and hijacks the cell.

    If you want a better example through the biology route, go with cancer. These cells don't stop growing until they've destroyed everything and taken all the resources the body has, similar to many ethnic groups throughout history that "won" through simple sheer reproduction ability, which allowed them to control most of the resources in a geographic area.
    While the cancer example is quite good, viruses are a perfectly applicable example as well, in my opinion.

    Take Ebola, for example. Once this virus enters you it undergoes "extreme amplification". During this process, the virus, quite obviously, multiplies uncontrollably. Massive hemorrhaging occurs, blood clots are thrown everywhere in your body, as essentially this virus is now everywhere, liquefying organs left and right. These blood clots in effect act as a stroke occurring throughout your entire body.

    This process of extreme amplification is almost as if the virus is trying transform its host into itself, which is quite similar to force theory. Muscles, organs, connective tissue, all begin to dissolve, and further add to the mess of virus infected sludge. For example, a simple drop of an infected person's blood may contain as many as a hundred million particles of virus, in the latter stages of the disease.

    As this occurs, a blackish-red ooze starts forcing its way out of every orifice on the body. All is lost except perhaps the deeper functions of the brain, which allow a person to perhaps keep moving, and infect others. (Near the end your body is basically a biological time bomb, as the virus has forcefully transformed you into a carrier.)

    If this isn't forceful I don't know what is.

    Fortunately these shows of force are rare, as hosts die too quickly for it to be spread.

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    id say Aztec, Safavid.

    viruses arnt trying to control you, they are just trying to replicate, and stay alive.

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    I'm merely talking about the basic principle of viruses: they infect not by slamming their way through the defense cell's membrane, but by disguising themselves as food (that is, having proteins on their outside that fit the receptors on the membrane for "food") that gain them entry into the cell, and then they hijack and often times destroy the cell in its attempt to replicate itself. More often, though, it illicits an immune response and it does not have time to replicate more than is necessary for the virus to survive.

    A virus is more akin to a terrorist insurgent, gaining entry to a country and then blowing up a government building for his cause, rather than a good example of a theory that governments come into being because they have force behind them. Which is what I think force theory is: wikipedia wasn't much help, and I didn't pay much attention in government classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenonight2 View Post
    I'm merely talking about the basic principle of viruses: they infect not by slamming their way through the defense cell's membrane, but by disguising themselves as food (that is, having proteins on their outside that fit the receptors on the membrane for "food") that gain them entry into the cell, and then they hijack and often times destroy the cell in its attempt to replicate itself. More often, though, it illicits an immune response and it does not have time to replicate more than is necessary for the virus to survive.

    A virus is more akin to a terrorist insurgent, gaining entry to a country and then blowing up a government building for his cause, rather than a good example of a theory that governments come into being because they have force behind them. Which is what I think force theory is: wikipedia wasn't much help, and I didn't pay much attention in government classes.
    I said what you said, so ida guessed uda assumed i was aimed at GrandHustle not you...i was, not you. and i know how viruses work lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V-Opolis View Post
    I said what you said, so ida guessed uda assumed i was aimed at GrandHustle not you...i was, not you. and i know how viruses work lol.
    I was talking to GrandHustle.

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    Well, since my idiocy could not comprehend viruses, I was thinking of going a different way.

    1.) A sheep dog herding, what else, but sheep.
    2.) Something along the lines of a strangler fig, should there be another plant that does it on a larger scale. (Time for some research.)
    3.) ...

    I am still open towards other ideas / opinions on my current ones.

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