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    Default Millionaire jailed for fighting off burglar while burglar is set free

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...r-let-off.html

    Millionaire who fought off a knife-wielding burglar is jailed (while the intruder is let off)

    A millionaire businessman who fought back against a knife-wielding burglar was jailed for two-and-a-half years yesterday. But his attacker has been spared prison.

    Munir Hussain, 53, and his family were tied up and told to lie on the floor by career criminal Waled Salem, who burst into his home with two other masked men.

    Mr Hussain escaped and attacked Salem with a metal pole and a cricket bat. But yesterday it was the businessman who was starting a prison sentence for his 'very violent revenge'.


    Munir Hussain, right, with his brother Tokeer, left, outside Reading Crown Court where he was jailed for attacking an intruder who had held his family hostage

    Jailing him, Judge John Reddihough said some members of the public would think that 56-year-old Salem 'deserved what happened to him' and that Mr Hussain 'should not have been prosecuted'.

    But had he spared Mr Hussain jail, the judge said, the 'rule of law' would collapse.

    He said: 'If persons were permitted to take the law into their own hands and inflict their own instant and violent punishment on an apprehended offender rather than letting the criminal justice system take its course, then the rule of law and our system of criminal justice, which are hallmarks of a civilised society, would collapse.'

    Salem, who has previous convictions, has already been given a non-custodial sentence despite carrying out what the judge called a 'serious and wicked' attack.



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    So self-defense is considered breaking the law?
    Good thing I don't live in the UK....


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    OMG ... well this is the law... even thought we all know that most of the times its wrong ... they got to do something to protect it... even if it means to take innocent people to jail...

    Quote Originally Posted by SnOwBunZz View Post
    So self-defense is considered breaking the law?
    Good thing I don't live in the UK....
    i think self defense without weapons or something thats like weapon is considered appropriate self defense but when you use weapon or something its more like a crime ... well atleast thats how it is in my country ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by poeticas View Post
    OMG ... well this is the law... even thought we all know that most of the times its wrong ... they got to do something to protect it... even if it means to take innocent people to jail...
    So someone attacks you and you defend yourself, knocking out the attacker and get jailed for that.

    This judge is a plain ****** and should get time himself.


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    okay, what does this tell me?? when i get robbed, i will let them rob my stuff, then kindly ask the robbers their social numbers so that i can hand it to the police and let them handle it.

    bah.. i think i will just kill those robbers myself.

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    So, the guy had a knife, and he was threatening the family, but the owner of the house still goes to jail for fighting him off?

    This didn't happen in America, did it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarchoftheBlackLions View Post
    I think I'd much rather be an uncivilized wretch.
    Same.

    We need rules, yet we cannot apply those rules in every case.


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    The judge needs more law school.

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    The burglary and the revenge were seperate cases.

    Stopping the burglar is one thing.

    Chasing him down the street to capture him is another.

    Beating him up until he can't move is another.


    But when you then get your mate to come and proceed to give him a prolonged and brutal beating as revenge, then you deserve to face the punishment.

    This is not about self defence, this is about vengance. Yes, we'd all like to take vengance on criminals who affect us, but if you go and beat the shit out of them, then you deserve to get in trouble. This attack went on long past the point where the guy couldn't get back up. This was just some evil shit perpetrated in response to some evil shit and gets nobody anywhere unless you punish everyone. Unfortunate coincidence that they got more time than the burglar but, as I said, seperate cases.

    Otherwise the line "He hit me first" would be the most common defence in the land"

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    Agreed with BGLamb.

    At the same time, though, the burglar should get prison time.

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    God bless the USA, if you break into OUR homes. we can shoot you. :]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenonight2 View Post
    Agreed with BGLamb.

    At the same time, though, the burglar should get prison time.
    It can be quite shocking when you see the actual jail times that people get for a variety of crimes. Basically it's never anywhere near as long as you'd think. Possibly due to the fantastically high cost of keeping people imprisoned and the consequent lack of space in jails.

    Just break a couple of his fingers, then watch him try and pick a lock.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinay View Post
    God bless the USA, if you break into OUR homes. we can shoot you. :]
    Yeah, or you can invite someone over, pretend they were breaking in, then shoot them.

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    Reading Crown Court heard how Mr Hussain and his brother then beat Salem while he lay on the ground, using a cricket bat, a pole and a hockey stick - leaving him with a fractured skull and brain damage following the 'sustained' attack.
    It wasn't him defending himself, it was him and his brother beating a guy on the ground. IF the guy shot him while he was in his house and wasn't subdued, that'd be fine. Beating someone lying on the ground who is no longer a threat, is not fine. For everyone who says this is OK, why do you (stereotypically) get mad at police brutality in similiar situations.

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    He got jailed because his name is Hussain >.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGLamb View Post
    Yeah, or you can invite someone over, pretend they were breaking in, then shoot them.
    lol............................................

    thanks for making my day.


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    In new york you have the right to do to beat the **** out of the intruder to keep him from running to police arrive

    Mind you, you cant kill him but you can knock him out none the less

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    Completely justified verdict.

    It's his own fault.

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    Kinda iffy, but I think the sentence is justified. Self-defense is one thing, chasing a guy down and bashing his brains in while he's lying unconscious on the floor is another.

    In most jurisdictions in the US, you are entitled to defend yourself, but you can only use deadly force if you are in immediate apprehension of death or serious bodily injury. So if he had clubbed the robber in the head while he was holding a knife to his family, that would be ok. But chasing a guy down who's trying to flee and then kicking the bejeezus out of him is not.

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    I would sue the burglar, his family and the whole police department. If that failed, I'd hire thugs to rob the burglar. With money everything is possible.

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    In America the guy would of been on the front of the local paper smiling with his bat, but unfortunately in a lot of other countries what he did would be seen in a court of law as a crime, even in my own opinion his action went to far, but to let the crime off without jail time really....
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    Laws suck who ever came up with this law is an idiot retarted.

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    The burglar probably wasn't sent to prison because he suffered brain damage from the attack. You don't imprison people who are mentally disabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladuck View Post
    The burglar probably wasn't sent to prison because he suffered brain damage from the attack. You don't imprison people who are mentally disabled.
    he looks fine to me. doesnt look like he has the signs of being disabled or ******ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked315 View Post
    ...Whoa, and I thought USA had a screwed up Justice System..heh.
    it so does.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobolord View Post
    If he didnt beat the jajebbers out of him, he would not be in jail. Still bit messed up that he had to go to jail.
    I would settle for 3-6 months of jail as the robber did something as well.

    The main concern here is why didn't the robber get time?


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