LoL vs Hon

[marcipaans]

Make love not war :3

[SonicCebalo]

this is the proof

Cya little boy

And this is my proof

of course it works. (you will not run over your ms speed but faster than letting your hero just run to a certain direction + you can get some bonus points)
same goes for deny..your idea is still wrong ^^

funny that you think that you a right and me the moron. I will leave this thread now..too stupid (like the first one) Will come back when i see more of this trash posts and then i will destroy this thread so olaph can close this thread again. Cya little boy

No, I'm 100% sure it doesn't work that way.
It's funny how you think that you're 100% right and I'm 100% wrong =o
It's also funny how now you don't back up any of your arguments, and are just gonna run away and pretend you won the argument.

Good job, you.
Amazing how idiots who can't even use simple grammar think that people who can actually come up with valid reasons are too stupid to be good at 'complex' games like Dota and HoN.
Being a bit intelligent is too hard for you, no?

[SonicCebalo]

lol... trying to make denying meaningless is sad.. Denying is a big deal.. Didn't want to try to argue since I already did loads on other threads but.. yall say so many untrue things.

Honestly.. LoL players = are like EM players on HoN.. there can be a 1800 PSR easy mode player who thinks he is good because he has high PSR. He can win almost every EM game he plays.. but if he feels really good one day and was to try to play in a normal mode game with 1700 PSR players (although most likely he would be kicked for being a EM player since they suck) if he wasn't kicked.. he would be destroyed mid vs a 1700 psr normal player since he thinks denying is useless..

I love playing against people who think denying doesn't mean much.. Since... they are always easy to beat.

Denying IS a big deal while laning HoN yes, but honestly, it does not take a lot of skill to do, which is why I don't understand why HoN players think being good at denying means you are a god.
You can pretty much master it in one day and in all truth it is probably easier to do than last hitting, as you are relatively safe from harassing on your side on the creep wave (assuming you are playing a melee hero, though being ranged is even safer).

so if you are 22 like me..than your brain is still like
the one from a 15 old boy xD You are really like a kid "no I AM RIGHT. I dont listen.All the things you told me are shit in my eyes wuäääh"

dude..everything i told you was right and you said you are 100% sure that the clicking has nothing to do with gameplay..and this is a big failure. Its not my fault that the game is like i said. You just dont see all aspects. If you are looking at the prog files and understand them..you should know this (+ if you had tryed this in game) all your "arguments" or comments are wrong. So pls..just stop it. The other people makin fun of you too not only me and many of them wont post anymore because this kiddy fight sucks ^^



you are so right man. We had fights too but i still know that you have some knowledge about the games not like sonic (lolz)

I swear you are actually stupid in the head, I don't know where to begin with you.
So why exactly, are all my arguments and comments wrong?

[fenix40k]

Denying IS a big deal while laning HoN yes, but honestly, it does not take a lot of skill to do, which is why I don't understand why HoN players think being good at denying means you are a god.
You can pretty much master it in one day and in all truth it is probably easier to do than last hitting, as you are relatively safe from harassing on your side on the creep wave (assuming you are playing a melee hero, though being ranged is even safer).

like i said..everything that comes from you is wrong (very funny!)

[SonicCebalo]

like i said..everything that comes from you is wrong (very funny!)

Yes just like everything that comes from you is a solid block of stupid.
Please just be quiet.
If you don't have anything smart to say then don't.

[fenix40k]

Yes just like everything that comes from you is a solid block of stupid.
Please just be quiet.
If you don't have anything smart to say then don't.

read the text above my last comment (you missed it again)
and no, you are the only one who should leave this thread + stupid
i mean..over 4 people told you allready that your "arguments" are stupid and you
still go on

[Stickypanda]

When people argue that League of Legends cannot compare to Heroes of Newerth because it doesn't have denying, I can't help but laugh.

All the HoN players can do to try to validate why their game is more competitive or take more skill is to hide behind one minuscule game play mechanic.

using the stats for the past 7 days from
http://honstats.heroku.com/?sort_by=...&sort_dir=DESC
we can see just how close to irrelevant denying is in the grand scheme of gameplay.

So you can see that most creep denies per game for champions average around 7. That's 7 additional clicks HoN Players do that LoL do not do. Wow.
When the average creep kill count hovers around 80 we can do simple math based on averages.
7/87
=
8%
So only 8% of the focus as far as laning goes is towards creep denies. It's not a major difference between the two games and it doesnt take much effort. If you can lasthit the enemy creeps, its not any huge stretch to be able to lasthit your own.

Seriously, the past 2 pages feature players who are rallying behind "denying" like its the main defining feature of HoN.

[SonicCebalo]

read the text above my last comment (you missed it again)
and no, you are the only one who should leave this thread + stupid
i mean..over 4 people told you allready that your "arguments" are stupid and you
still go on

The text you quoted was a valid and reasonable argument.
sigh you're not even reading what I'm writing, are you.
Take a good long read, and summarise what I'm actually saying.

[Stickypanda]

"I just believe the simplicity and lack of dynamics of gameplay in LoL leads to it being inferior at displaying and rewarding the player's skill."

Simplicity?

A lack of dynamics?

Really?

You've taken the fact that we use pressure and not A+Click to control the flow of a lane completely out of context. How much experience do you have with League of Legends?

[Creid]

"I just believe the simplicity and lack of dynamics of gameplay in LoL leads to it being inferior at displaying and rewarding the player's skill."

Simplicity?

A lack of dynamics?

Really?

You've taken the fact that we use pressure and not A+Click to control the flow of a lane completely out of context. How much experience do you have with League of Legends?

In lol you can't pull jungle creeps into your lane to control the lane. In lol you can't block your own creeps by walking in front of them since there's built in pseudo unitwalk code that gradually shrinks creeps collision boxes if they're blocked. In lol there's no courier or tps. Lol's 'brushes' (lol) are a sorry excuse for the actual jungle in hon.
Finally, lol's design team is color blind. Atleast that is imo the only possible explanation for their color scheme. I bet if you took all available lol colors with saturation/brightness etc included you'd end up with a very jaggy histogram. Hon looks much more natural.

In the end, it's obvious which one is lego and which one is duplo.

[Powster]

You've taken the fact that we use pressure and not A+Click to control the flow of a lane completely out of context. How much experience do you have with League of Legends?

In HoN you can pressure and.. deny so saying you can pressure on LoL doesn't mean much since you can do the same in HoN.

Anyway.. LoL and HoN are different games different gameplay etc.. will never end this argument. Only real argument that would make sense would be dota vs HoN...