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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTingTing View Post
    he probably got his fingers burnt while trying to burn a koran
    Hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by V-Opolis View Post
    anyone heard bout this. Floridans burning a koran tjonight. Ill get ana rticle later when i get outta class. But im sure google will hafve sometjhing.
    If they burned a bible at the same time I'd thank them, relgion is not needed anymore!
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    I f*cking hate people so much.

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    Great, burn their "bible" so that we start another religious war. Sounds like a great idea.

    People are idiots.

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    oh god ... i mean "oh guard" war is coming......

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    Seriously?

    What the **** is the problem..?
    If they have such a hard time with the mosque being built there, take the opposite sideway walk and pass it, there, no problem.

    Wasn't The United States the country of free speech and shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatashi View Post
    Seriously?

    What the **** is the problem..?
    If they have such a hard time with the mosque being built there, take the opposite sideway walk and pass it, there, no problem.

    Wasn't The United States the country of free speech and shit?

    Yes, but as you know, freedom has it's limitations. Well, at least that's what they keep telling us American's...

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    Well then Florida needs to stfu and worry about whats going on in their state.

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    Like, really wha da fawk, is there problem....

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    This is why we can't have religion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatashi View Post
    Seriously?

    What the **** is the problem..?
    If they have such a hard time with the mosque being built there, take the opposite sideway walk and pass it, there, no problem.

    Wasn't The United States the country of free speech and shit?
    Imagine this: a bunch of crazy Christians steal an airplane and crash it directly into Mecca, destroying it completely. 9 years later, Christians want a church built near the former site of Mecca. Should they be allowed to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramstien View Post
    Imagine this: a bunch of crazy Christians steal an airplane and crash it directly into Mecca, destroying it completely. 9 years later, Christians want a church built near the former site of Mecca. Should they be allowed to?
    Gotta agree. This has always been my main issue with the ground zero mosque.

    Oh and, here's a bit about the event: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...1-victims.html

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    Actually some of the Muslims said that for every Qur'an that is burned they will donated 20 (or more I forget the exact number) to libraries and other places across the city.

    Even though I don't like religion I got a good laugh out of that.

    It's a good peaceful way to deal with the issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramstien View Post
    Imagine this: a bunch of crazy Christians steal an airplane and crash it directly into Mecca, destroying it completely. 9 years later, Christians want a church built near the former site of Mecca. Should they be allowed to?
    You are comparing all Christians to one small group.

    Just like you are comparing all Muslims to an extremist group.

    Did you know there are Christian churches in Hiroshima even though America (considered a Christian nation by many, even though I don't agree) bombed it and killed tens to hundreds of thousands of civilians.

    Or did you know that there is a Japanese cultural center in Hawaii even though the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

    How about All Americans should not be able to build in america at all since our ancestors brutally tortured and ***** and killed the Native Americans and drove them off the land they used to live on.


    Three other things you forget.

    They are building it as a community center with places to play basketball, a pool and much more.

    The man building there is Feisal Abdul Rauf who is a well known activist against terrorism for over a decade. Hey helps unite the Muslim communities in America and speaks for peace. He helped the Bush Administration after 9/11 and even aided the FBI on counter terrorism.

    Also you forget that the man owns the property and can build there if he wants by law.

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    Oh my god! What an OUTRAGE!!!!

    They're going to burn a fifteen dollar book?!?!?! No ****ing way those intolerant assholes!!! I am so mad I am going to post about it on the ****ing internet!

    No, seriously though, burning a book pertaining to someones' religion is the equivalent of talking shit. So who listens to shit talkers anyway? The more you get mad about things like this, the more it fuels the people who are doing it, because all they want is a reaction.

    Whenever the media gets involved in something like this they make things a thousand times worse. Let them do whatever the hell they want. If they want to be dicks, let them be dicks. Who are they harming? I like Final Fantasy 7. If someone abhorred FF7 because they preferred 8 and broke a copy of 7 in front of me, I'd just be like "Bro, you just wasted like 20 bucks, lol".

    Haterade, and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramstien View Post
    Imagine this: a bunch of crazy Christians steal an airplane and crash it directly into Mecca, destroying it completely. 9 years later, Christians want a church built near the former site of Mecca. Should they be allowed to?
    Imagine this:
    The Westboro Baptist Church crashes a plain into an economical center in Saudi Arabia. Almost a decade later, secular protestants from Sweden build a community center with a small interior chapel a 5 minute walk away from the crash site.
    Should they be allowed to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eusnon View Post
    Why is everyone spelling it Koran? >_> I thought it was Quran or Qu'ran summin...

    Anyhew

    ******s will be ******ed.

    IMO though in this case it doesn't amount to much as I'm not an american there's nothing wrong with building a mosque near ground zero. Perhaps if it was right smack dab in the middle or at least a few feet away but a few blocks seems kinda...ridiculous.
    Americans are very patriotic and close-minded. Everything to America is black and white with no grey in between. 9/11 was a slap to the face which is why we went to war. And to Americans who care, building a mosque near 9/11 is equivalent to being spat on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synlea View Post
    Great, burn their "bible" so that we start another religious war. Sounds like a great idea.

    People are idiots.
    Hahaha, this isn't going to start a religious war. Don't be silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by KREVA View Post
    Americans are very patriotic and close-minded. Everything to America is black and white with no grey in between. 9/11 was a slap to the face which is why we went to war. And to Americans who care, building a mosque near 9/11 is equivalent to being spat on.
    Yr over-simplifying things.

    Only thing 9/11 had to do with our series of invasions and occupations in the Middle East was that none of us felt secure anymore, and we identified the source of the threat, so we went to attack it directly. It's only natural. It's not right the way we did it, but it wasn't because of a "slap in the face" like you mean it. It's a measure to protect us against outside threats by attacking them there. Afghanistan was harboring terrorists, so we swooped in there and took it out; Iraq was potentially developing WMDs that was a threat to Israel and ourselves, so we swoop in there to take it out.

    This idea of yrs that America will invade because of pride is pretty silly once you get off yr pedestal and look at what really happened. I'm not saying whether the invasions were a good thing or not, I'm just saying why we did it.

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    *sigh* What a load of shit what do they get for disrespecting Muslims nothing but a self serving feeling of superiority that will wear off in a few days. Not to mention how stupid are they. They are making themselves a target for the crazy Muslims who might retaliate by burning their Church. I swear people are just too stupid these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarwen View Post
    *sigh* What a load of shit what do they get for disrespecting Muslims nothing but a self serving feeling of superiority that will wear off in a few days. Not to mention how stupid are they. They are making themselves a target for the crazy Muslims who might retaliate by burning their Church. I swear people are just too stupid these days.
    Are you 7 years old or something?

    Give me 1 example of a legitimate source of ''Crazy Muslims'' burning a Christian church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatashi View Post
    Are you 7 years old or something?

    Give me 1 example of a legitimate source of ''Crazy Muslims'' burning a Christian church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thas View Post
    I was going to edit it with "I've seen cases like this quite often even in the Finnish news" but then you replied so meh.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...rderers-o.html

    http://www.iris.org.il/blog/archives...ned-Alive.html

    http://sheikyermami.com/2010/02/25/s...he-muslim-way/

    Just find more by yourself. Ain't too hard.
    Oh, and I forgot to add, say there are 5 cases of 5 different Christian families killing their children, would you think that every Christian family is capable of doing this?

    How about a guy, he is a Christian, he rapes a women and kills her after, if something like this came into the news, would you believe that every Christian is like this?

    Because I don't.
    You get too much sources from the news, you should try to dig a little deeper on it and perhaps you will learn and understand a few things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatashi View Post

    Just because you watch your daily news and see something about Muslim terrorists it doesn't mean every Muslims is like that.
    I never said everyone is, but the propensity to violence is so much higher than in other religions. Yes, i do indeed see it in the daily news, and have seen it alot during my youth at my hometown.
    Most of the Muslims, which might be around 90% don't even have any intentions of harm or whatever.
    Depends on where you are. I wouldnt scream HEY IM A CHRISTIAN on the streets of teheran if i were you.



    And the terrorist and extremist ones basically aren't even classified as Muslims by the religion.
    Lol? Of course they are. In almost all of those stupid terrorist videos you're going to hear some kind of WE DO IT FOR ALLAH, THE HOLY WAR.

    The Quran neither says that women should walk around dressed entirely only revealing their eyes since everyone thinks thats true too :l

    It does. From the Koran: Sure 24: 31:

    And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. They shall cover their chests, and shall not relax this code in the presence of other than their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their sisters, other women, the male servants or employees whose sexual drive has been nullified, or the children who have not reached puberty. They shall not strike their feet when they walk in order to shake and reveal certain details of their bodies. All of you shall repent to GOD, O you believers, that you may succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatashi View Post
    Exactly what I meant, those people aren't Muslim and are not recognized as Muslims by the ones that know the proper meaning of the religion.
    Every normal every-day Muslim you see walking down the street knows what they are doing is wrong, and should in no way be approved.

    And about the Quran part, it tells you not to reveal your body, and that does not mean wear a dress that only shows your eyes, its the husbands that tells them, it also mostly happens in the western countries, and its the Husbands who tell them to dress like that (Extremists).

    I've been to turkey 3 times, all the women dress like that. It's not only in the western countries...they wear atleast a muslim headscarf and a garb, pants are frowned upon.

    Of course it's wrong to sterotype muslims because of that, but it's a sad fact that terrorist assaults are justified with their religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eusnon View Post
    Yeah people would prolly look at you strange even if you did that in a church.

    IMO people srsly need to realize that terrorists can be shouting that they're doing this for allah and all that jazz but it doesn't matter.

    Plenty people say that they're christians and that God told them to do this and that but that doesn't mean that they're actual christians just because they said it.
    Yeah, they might be saying they are doing it for Allah, but thats they're own imagination, they think it is correct, they think they will be praised for it.
    Its not true.. really, The Islam is a peaceful religion.

    It is only misunderstood by some idiots, and those idiots are literally breaking the religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrTingTing View Post

    I've been to turkey 3 times, all the women dress like that. It's not only in the western countries...they wear atleast a muslim headscarf and a garb, pants are frowned upon.

    Of course it's wrong to sterotype muslims because of that, but it's a sad fact that terrorist assaults are justified with their religion.
    Believe me, the Muslims that understand what ''The Islam'' even is, don't justify it one bit.

    My family, which is half Muslim, and my friends which are Muslims hate Muslim terrorists as much as you probably do, you can hate the extremists, and the terrorist, but all that I am asking is, please, don't start to think that everyone is like that, the friends I have, are normal people, who like to have fun, they are open minded, and every other human of the opposite religion is just as important to them as someone from the same religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KREVA View Post
    Americans are very patriotic and close-minded. Everything to America is black and white with no grey in between. 9/11 was a slap to the face which is why we went to war. And to Americans who care, building a mosque near 9/11 is equivalent to being spat on.
    9/11 was a convenient excuse for GW to do what he was waiting to do all along. It successfully scared the public into supporting a war on something they didn't fully (or, at all for that matter) understand.

    How convenient is that? A bit too convenient.

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