burning of koran

[Hatashi]

I agree with Oister.

I mean, it was never fully proven that it was a act of terrorism.

If a building in the US explodes, what will people think? Ofcourse, Islam.

What will you do if a building does explode and a Christian has done it?

[IronyTaken]

Well since I suck in arguments I'm just going to agree with everything TingTing said here.

And not once have I said that peaceful muslims do not exist either. I've just noticed that like 95%+ of the "religious" terrorist attacks commited are done in the name of Islam.

Not to mention the president of Iran himself has said that jews need to be wiped off the planet and stuff but that's another story.

Every period in History has it's religious disputes and wars.(well the wars are not really because of religion but religion is used to push people into wars)


Back almost 900 years ago we had the Crusades....
Places dominated by Islam used to be the height of scientific advancements.
Actually places like Iran right now are the fastest growing in science.

You rely too much on the news.


It's not so much the religion itself that causes violence but the society and community.

The books based on the god Yahweh; Old Testament, New Testament and Qur'an are all contradictory and can be interpreted in a number of ways so it can be peaceful or violent.

So depending on the people and society they could be peaceful or violent even if it's the same religion.


For instance.

pretty sure evferyone knows not all people are the same in a religion. But still someones gonna flip a switch about this and attempt to do something in retaliation i bet. Or aqtleast have a big outrage.

There were people admitting outright that if the community center was built they would burn it down.

[gratscorpio]

eh


scorpio

[Vesper]

I don't see the problem here.

I burn bibles all the time.

[matey]

This is stupid.Just for a building they will burn a religious book?

[Hizumi]

Imagine this: a bunch of crazy Christians steal an airplane and crash it directly into Mecca, destroying it completely. 9 years later, Christians want a church built near the former site of Mecca. Should they be allowed to?

of course they wont, they have a theocracy, we don't.

Also:
David Koresh
Jim Jones
Eric Rudolph
Timothy McVeigh
etc

Crazy christian people who blew up shit and killed people, yet no ones abhorring at priests or anything. Theres tons more killing, kidnapping, molesting, blowing shit up, right now that are christian. I guess it's only something we start to care about and get into deep discussion and debate if they do it in the name of Allah

[Kostolomac]

Wouldn't mind them burning those books, if they read them first, which I doubt they did.

[IronyTaken]

haha that video made me laugh.

but ya ima move to switzerland for a few days while Florida gets ***** by angry muslim gangsters. Dont see this going well for people in the USA because of these dumbasses.

Did you see that in the video the black guy was getting less points at the beginning even when they both answered all the same questions correctly?

I think he was making a 2/3 vote joke.

[matey]

lol,these people need to open their eyes,they probably go to church every sunday to hear a man say Jesus said do upon yourself that you want others to do upon you or something like that,never read the bible,nor christian

but yeah,so when Disney gets blown up,we know who to blame

[Ronin]

Iraq was potentially developing WMDs that was a threat to Israel and ourselves, so we swoop in there to take it out.

No it wasn't.

It wasn't even "potentially" doing that.

I am not even talking about the kill first ask later attitude.

[matey]

ah ****. i forgot about Universal Studio....may have to take a trip through time, Terminator style, and murk some peeps for US's sake.

Terminator's 3D movie is sweet,go before it is gone

[Ronin]

Something I would like to say on the topic of the comon cited peacefulness of the Islam:

People say that Islam is a religion that does not have have any inherent frictions with human rights;
Honour killings are not part of the Islam, just as stoning women to death or all the other funny ideas.
This is a half-truth.

The Sharia as it based on the 5 fundaments of islamic laws, namely
- believe in the right religion (Islam)
- adherence to the right life (eg. Islamic tradition)
- Sanctity of property
- Sanctity of the right mind (eg. no intoxicants)
- The sanctity of indisputable heritage

These pilars and how they are treated in the Islamic world make up the groundwork of any Islamic society and not adhering to the rules in the Sharia is more or less on the level of an heretic act against Allah.

Now how can the last one be ever be coexistent with women rights and equality?
It can't.

How can the adherence to the right believe ever be coexistent with free speech?
It can't.

how can the adherence to the right live ever be coexistent with human rights?
Human rights are no part of it and it can't.

Saying that Islam is a peaceful religion might be something that is easily said.
It's not a religion of freedom and it's not a religion of social equality and it's not a religion of tolerance.

When a Muslim lives a tolerant live, he does not because his religion tells him too, but because it is his choosing for other reasons.
His religion often tells him the opposite.

[Avarwen]

Are you 7 years old or something?

Give me 1 example of a legitimate source of ''Crazy Muslims'' burning a Christian church.

Some one already linked a case. Did I say ALL Muslims no I did not never assume. There are SOME Muslims who will do crazy things sadly it is ok to SOME Muslims.

[EpicPhail]

Alright, I'm not even going to @ at whoever, I'm just counter arguing like 50 points.

Let's start with something I like to call..Succesful terrorists were succesful. I HIGHLY doubt those 5 extremists were aiming to ruin america by taking down two towers. They wanted to create a shockwave, and create fear and instability in the nation. They sure as hell did that if today americans are holding grudges against FELLOW AMERICANS BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION. You realize one of the "Founding" ideas of america was the multi cultural-Believe and see what you see as you see it; and you're still AMERICAN concept, correct ?

You're not punishing extremists here, you're hurting americans.

Now let's be honest here..No matter what this is to you guys.. A slap in the face sure be it, what would you guys saying "No you can't pray to your god here, despite it being in your rights" say to them ?

These people were not responsible for your towers falling. Letting them pray peacefully is better than them "Killing people for sacrifice" like you guys would like to believe.

Has anyone here even LOOKED at the religion ? Islam is NOT a violent religion by natural means. People take it to the extreme.

Hell, wasn't there a christian serial killer who went around killing people because he saw them as "Inpure" and believed they deserved to die in hell.

What about those christians that "hear god" and kill people because he tells them ?

Ya..

Or you know, let's use a more "Global" term for you guys. 60 years ago you treated black men like slaves. This wasn't just one or two people, this was EVERYONE. Does this give the black man I right to just go around ****ing every white man up ?

No.

What about stealing native land ? Do the natives have the right to say we can't build where we want..

They have more of a right to stop us from building, then we do to stop these men.

Fact is the chance 9/11 is an inside job is still VERY WELL POSSIBLE.

This to me, seems like it's going to give the U.S a reason to stay in the middle east longer-again a potentially inside plotted idea to create another war over a stupid thing.

These guys get this, then a muslim bombing goes off in NY they get blamed,government gets blamed-they can crack down on all people believing in ISLAM and invade the middle east, while being cruel to the muslims in america.

Just seems like an instigated problem.

and then instigate the average muslim man by burning their bible. I mean the normal person would get pretty dam pissed, and possibly rebel. Meaning tougher holds on laws-and more restrictions.

[Domokun]

The irony makes me laugh.

1.Burning the Quran when you have no use for it is often seen as a acceptable way of disposing it.

2.Islam and Christianity believe in the same god and thus the Christians are calling their own god a devil.

[Greed]

If they actually go through with this, it would piss off so many people. The US is already on bad enough grounds with Islamic nations, this is just pure idiocy at its finest.

EDIT: I just checked my calender. Isn't the 11th Eid?

Holy shit, that's like taking a Bible and burning it on Christmas.

[RendascusReborn]

ITT: Useless arguments about Religion.

So, did the burning actually happen? I wonder how certain extremists will retort to said actions.

[sinnful]

It happens on 9/11.

I do have to admit, this is possibly the best way to piss off large portion of the planets population. Good job crazy church people!

[Sandman53]

It's stupid and bigoted. That pretty much sums up not only this book burning, but those extremely moronic religious zealots and their need to have their religion feel superior.

We really need to get rid of religion if we are going to continue to progress as a species.

[sinnful]

It's stupid and bigoted. That pretty much sums up not only this book burning, but those extremely moronic religious zealots and their need to have their religion feel superior.

We really need to get rid of religion if we are going to continue to progress as a species.

Yea, that will never happen.

[Thetake]

Lol so what? Its no big deal. When our church goes on trips to cities etc, there is always some punk snot nosed teen trying to be tough burning the bible shouting ''your god doesn't exists!!! blah blah bla''. We just look and walk away.

[Greed]

Lol so what? Its no big deal. When our church goes on trips to cities etc, there is always some punk snot nosed teen trying to be tough burning the bible shouting ''your god doesn't exists!!! blah blah bla''.

Snot nosed teen is different from a pastour of a church trying to establish an "International Burn a Koran" day at the end of a major religious holiday for muslims.

[Str1der]

The irony makes me laugh.

1.Burning the Quran when you have no use for it is often seen as a acceptable way of disposing it.

2.Islam and Christianity believe in the same god and thus the Christians are calling their own god a devil.

There is nothing similar about God and Allah. If you want to compare the two religions, atleast realize that the two are not the same being. Muslims refer to "God" with the name Allah, but that's where it ends.

And for those who don't believe that the Islamic faith was founded on extremely violent principles needs to go back and study up a bit more. I'm by no means sitting here and claiming that people haven't done horrible things in the name of Christianity, but stop preaching Islam to be some happy-go-lucky picnic fest.

[Sandman53]

There is nothing similar about God and Allah. If you want to compare the two religions, atleast realize that the two are not the same being. Muslims refer to "God" with the name Allah, but that's where it ends.

And for those who don't believe that the Islamic faith was founded on extremely violent principles needs to go back and study up a bit more. I'm by no means sitting here and claiming that people haven't done horrible things in the name of Christianity, but stop preaching Islam to be some happy-go-lucky picnic fest.

Stop your Christian lies scum! We all know you come from the holy land!

*edit*

The Crusades...

[matey]

Indeed,the Muslims believe there is only ONE God,Allah and his messenger Muhammad

Islam is built on the five pillars,which i forgot since 2 years ago