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    They can charge whatever they want for novelty items in-game. Guess what, it's your fault for not choosing a name more wisely or taking more time to design your character. Also I doubt that the character customization is going to be so limited that you'd feel you'd NEED to shell out another 10 bucks for more hairstyles or BS you think you deserve. Should they give you their collector's edition and whatever other merchandise they decide to market to you for free also? I highly doubt they'd destroy the integrity of all their hard work on this game by resorting to the quick money making schemes most F2P's use to scam people who'd pay any amount of money to become the "best".

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    I wonder how people expect games to survive without any means of steady income... everyone must really enjoy free loading so much. btw I'm totally fine w/ this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liaght View Post
    I wonder how people expect games to survive without any means of steady income... everyone must really enjoy free loading so much. btw I'm totally fine w/ this.
    Games do not cost 775 million to make and servers do not cost 50 million a month to maintain. They could do fine with just b2p for a loooooooong time. They're out to make as much money as possible so of course they're going to go with this but stop acting like they'd go bankrupt otherwise.

    Anyway as long as they do it like GW then it's fine but if they start selling any in game equipment not obtainable besides buying directly from the shop I'm not gonna touch the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djaoni View Post
    Games do not cost 775 million to make and servers do not cost 50 million a month to maintain. They could do fine with just b2p for a loooooooong time. They're out to make as much money as possible so of course they're going to go with this but stop acting like they'd go bankrupt otherwise.

    Anyway as long as they do it like GW then it's fine but if they start selling any in game equipment not obtainable besides buying directly from the shop I'm not gonna touch the game.
    if that were the case they would have already released an unfinished game.
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    F---.

    I hate games with cash shops.

    I am weak-willed and if given the opportunity to pay-to-win, I will.

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    I would probably use the cash shop for only the transmutation stones.
    Get a pirate suit and put the stats onto that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djaoni View Post
    Games do not cost 775 million to make and servers do not cost 50 million a month to maintain. They could do fine with just b2p for a loooooooong time. They're out to make as much money as possible so of course they're going to go with this but stop acting like they'd go bankrupt otherwise.

    Anyway as long as they do it like GW then it's fine but if they start selling any in game equipment not obtainable besides buying directly from the shop I'm not gonna touch the game.
    As much sense as what you said made... it's like you're asking a company who want's to make money, to start working for free. So your idea is to make it b2p, and let it eventually die in the future?and make the company who made said game go bankrupt at the same time?

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    The reason i post this to show you b2p games will still use cash shop method anyway plus that company is a p2p company lazy servers

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    Liaght - The giant hole in your argument is actually GW1 though. Arenanet isn't working for free nor are they going broke. This is just a cheap ploy to milk extra cash outta the consumers.

    If this was a F2P model game, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But it's not.

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    i dont see what the big deal is...most games even p2p games have cash shops... WoW, Aion, FFXI(to an extent) so its not that big a deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagurasu View Post
    Liaght - The giant hole in your argument is actually GW1 though. Arenanet isn't working for free nor are they going broke. This is just a cheap ploy to milk extra cash outta the consumers.

    If this was a F2P model game, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But it's not.
    The thing is, GW1 also has a cash shop. They're practically the same, offering expansions and additional quests to reveal parts of the story and offering unique gears... + the regular change how I look packs. :/


    Edit: They offer the same things, nothing game breaking. They don't sell the OMGWTFBBQ weapon of mass destruction. :/

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    Why are people even crapping their pants over shop that sell novelty items ?I say more power to them as long as what they are selling in the shop is not game breaking. For those of you who are crapping your pants on the novelty items, why don't you go and start your own company, then give out lots of free stuff with no return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kite View Post
    i dont see what the big deal is...most games even p2p games have cash shops... WoW, Aion, FFXI(to an extent) so its not that big a deal
    Well it is..Anyone who is stupid enough to buy My Little Pony for $25 in WoW needs to see there Doctor..But in turn WOW puts out a expansion pack for less than $25 and has more content in it...>_> Boy do i see something wrong with this picture...We have people with mental problems.. Cough,cough..No big deal right? LOL

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    Most of Cash Shop Sucks :/

    If all were just "Visual" its ok...

    But then come "Get your mount and ride at any lvl"

    Then "Get Double XP and Double PvP/PvE Tokens"

    Then "Buy More Quest"...This one really sucks...

    Get more Character Slots

    ETC...

    Most of cash shops arent visuals and indeed..it SUCKS if you already pay for the game if the Cash Shop is imbalanced...

    I Would like more if they just put a lot of good expansions :/

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    That's the reality in gaming.. Only the rich player will survive and strongest.

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    So long as it's merely vanity as GW1 is doing, then I don't see the problem.

    Lets be honest, look at GW1, it's hardly making them any real money at this point. Which is obvious by the recent edition of costumes to the shop with more surely on the way. In fact I fully expect Halloween costumes.......and I will surely buy them if they look good.

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    It will most likely be something around the same level of STO and the Guildwars 1 shop. Minor things that may impact gameplay a little, but nothing too out of control.

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    you buy the game to play, hence b2p. Them having cash shop may enhance the person's experience while playing the game but doesn't hinder you from playing the game after you buy so what's the big deal here? The console games release DLC all the time does that magically make them not B2P?

    Transmutation stones seem a lot like the armor appearance customizing in Aion from the way you described them. It was not game breaking and people just ended up using the normal models (some people wanted to look cool and used the fallen w/e set they use). People are freaking out about nothing.

    Also, they're not ripping you off if you knew ahead of time about what they're doing with cash shop and bought the game. But as of now, no one has enough information to pass judgments, so why are you posting this? get haters riled up like how they did with final fantasy 14 and go crazy with rumors (well game did suck but people exaggerated way too much)? You people are making accusation blindly with vague information that you're putting down as sources.

    and by the way, The OP seemed to copy/pasta'd the entire post from this dude's blog
    http://my.************/1cd10251c16a4...7c40be365.html
    the ***** part is (M m o si te . co m) without spaces
    Who had misleading information (check the comments below for correction) but has some pictures

    You should state your sources as they're not your thoughts nor you took the time to write them as it is extremely disrespectful unless you're the blog owner and you're the one that made the post.

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    Do I pay a subscription? No.
    A cash shop is fine then.

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    GW1 works just fine with a Cash Shop, really didn't expect GW2 to operate too much differently in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djaoni View Post
    Games do not cost 775 million to make and servers do not cost 50 million a month to maintain. They could do fine with just b2p for a loooooooong time. They're out to make as much money as possible so of course they're going to go with this but stop acting like they'd go bankrupt otherwise.

    Anyway as long as they do it like GW then it's fine but if they start selling any in game equipment not obtainable besides buying directly from the shop I'm not gonna touch the game.
    games do not cost 775 million and servers do not cost 50 million a month to maintain indeed. However, if they get paid mediocre income for what could be a huge hit, what would be the motive driving them to make improvements with updates and expansions?
    what you're asking for is like the employers wanting their employees working overtime with no benefits and on minimum wage.

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    For a MMORPG a constant income of cash is very important. B2P is not enough in the end, it was good enough for GW 1, but GW 2 will be obviously much bigger. I'm totally fine with a balanced item shop like character slots, appearance, unique skins for items etc.

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    You have to remember that as with any company their main desire is making money. When you pay for GW2 you are paying for quality content (I assume), I don't know about you guys but back in my day I spent $20-$50 on a console game that lasted maybe 20-50 hours and afterward I was done with it, threw it in my cd binder and never really bothered it again. You could pay for GW2 and get hundreds of hours, then an expansion and get hundreds more. Seems worth the money to me.

    Just remember the key is content quality. You get what you pay for. I'd much rather have quality over quantity, but if you'd rather quantity over quality there are plenty of F2p MMORPGs you can go play.

    Cash shop wise, just cosmetic stuff isn't a big deal at all.

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    ...Well, if you ppl don't like it then go back to your cheap P2P or "F2P" MMO's with "uneeded and balanced" CS...

    But seriously, GW 1 CS wasn't anything major or "must have" to have players criticise it like they are being robbed or something. GW releases costed less than a normal full game price and over a period of 5 years when adding all chapters + expansion cost, it's still less than it's P2P counterparts over the same period of time. And during that time, the game has been maintained, patched,events,etc frequently.

    The fact GW2 is going to be B2P like Anet promised a long time ago when they announced it tells much about the company when the majority of AA(A) titles still use the P2P (or even the "F2P") format. Many ppl were attracted to GW1 because of the B2P payment mode with balanced gameplay and i doubt Anet (NcSoft) is going to kick their fan player base in the face by changing that.

    GW1 offered enough "free" vanity items to keep me interested and i never saw the need to buy CS cosmetic items in 5 years+ of playing it.

    Here are some of the armors (which can be matched freely) found in GW 1 now:
    http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ranger_armor

    I'd expect GW 2 to later have similar if not more free content to keep players happy.

    Bottom line, enough of QQ'ing for something that seems normal and not game breaking on a upcoming AAA title which will be release as a B2P MMO.

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    Not bothered about it. If it breaks the game balance which I doubt then oh well, just join another game or go back to GW1.

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