Any good extreme metal bands?

[power_gamer_6]

Well, it's symptomatic, that they sing in English. If you take a Finish band, you can easily see that there is an interest in an international scope, because Finland is partially overcrowded with Metal bands already.

German metal bands sing in English for no real reason, other than the image they want to convey.
So, yea, it's cheesy in a way no other Metal scene is.

LOL I don't understand man, are you saying it's cheesy cause they sing in English? Cause that goes for most of the world too. :P

[MrTingTing]

German metal bands sing in English for no real reason, other than the image they want to convey.
So, yea, it's cheesy in a way no other Metal scene is.

Being a german myself, i can assure you that german is a terrible language to sing in. The most german musicians and bands prefer to sing in english because german is just so ridiculous if used in metal songs

[Runwiththelight]

There's hardly any singing in screamo, and virtually none in death metal.
And cheesyness is easy to determine. Typically, the less Americanized they are, the more cheesy the music is, so, by that logic: Iced Earth - not cheesy, HammerFall - cheesy, Holy Grail - not cheesy, Edguy - damn cheesy, Savatage - not cheesy, Rhapsody of Fire - dangerously cheesy.

Of course, there are some exceptions. Most notably for the American side; Manowar. For the European side; Blind Guardian.

I love Blind Guardian, that singer has talent. Wait, Blind Guardian isn't extremely metal though right?(Honest question, I don't know too much of extreme metal)

[shadowsworn]

they are extremely metal. not extreme metal, though

[Ronin]

Being a german myself, i can assure you that german is a terrible language to sing in. The most german musicians and bands prefer to sing in english because german is just so ridiculous if used in metal songs

What can I say...

I mean it's not that bad, actually it's kinda funny.
(The situation that German bands are singing English, not directly related to the video.)

[$$$]

but wait ramstine is german n they sing in german lol

edit: there metal to

[power_gamer_6]

What can I say...

I mean it's not that bad, actually it's kinda funny.
(The situation that German bands are singing English, not directly related to the video.)

So only German bands sing in English?

[Ronin]

That's one song by Rammstein.

I think they perhaps have maybe one other where they sing in English, they have one where they sing in Spanish.

Otherwise, it's German.

Well, the point is not that it's a song in German.

The song is about the what I am talking about.

"We're all living in America!";
Those would be one of the points where you can feel free jump in and say "Uh, but that is like totally not true, not everyone lives in the Americas, saying that or acting like it makes no sense."
Well, that's what the song is aiming to communicate.

[power_gamer_6]

Well, the point is not that it's a song in German.

The song is about the what I am talking about.

"We're all living in America!";
Those would be one of the points where you can feel free jump in and say "Uh, but that is like totally not true, not everyone lives in the Americas, saying that or acting like it makes no sense."
Well, that's what the song is aiming to communicate.

No, the song is aiming to communicate the effects of globalization.

[Ronin]

No, the song is aiming to communicate the effects of globalization.

Nice contribution. If you want to disagree for the sake of it, so be it...
You aren't being witty, so it would be better, if you stop trying to be.

[Norrin Radd]

You do realise that the song is about America and how the band perceive it as being a rather bullying superpower, trying to spread itself unwantedly across the world, right?

It's about that.

[power_gamer_6]

Yes.

I don't see that it's a far stretch from Santa Claus to a German Metal bands who call themselves Helloween singing English songs.

It's talking about one and the same thing.

The main idea behind the song was getting sales overseas, because that again would provoke many people in Germany.
It's playing towards how ridiculous the situation is.

The main context is arguably the Iraq war / German engagment in ISAF, that doesn't really matter, because it's all aspects of the same situation.

It's not about what Americans do in America, it's probably about what Americans do abroad, but mainly, it is about the Situation of those people who are not American and how they play into the whole cultural game.

I don't say that it's all bad for anyone who takes part in it, I don't say that I would run to praise just any German singing band, most likely not.
The story is that it's undeniably true that people in Germany preferably buy CDs which aren't German, on the one hand because many don't want to, on the other, because no one wants to make those CDs.

And that definitely is cheesy, because all it consists of is imported stereotypes and escapisms, by the nature of the thing.

WHAT

You continue to make literally zero sense.
You know what other European bands sing in English, since you seem to be so obsessed with proving a point with that (or at least that's all I'm understanding from you)? Dimmu Borgir, Ensiferum, Children of Bodom, In Flames, Bathory, Dissection, Rhapsody of Fire, Dark Moor, Fairyland, Thy Majestie, Volbeat, Winter's Verge, Firewind, and literally thousands and thousands of other bands.

[shadowsworn]

why are we talking about Rammstein anyway. the only way Rammstein are extreme is in how goddamn strange they are ]

hey o,p have some more extreme metulz

[Ronin]

WHAT

You continue to make literally zero sense.
You know what other European bands sing in English, since you seem to be so obsessed with proving a point with that (or at least that's all I'm understanding from you)? Dimmu Borgir, Ensiferum, Children of Bodom, In Flames, Bathory, Dissection, Rhapsody of Fire, Dark Moor, Fairyland, Thy Majestie, Volbeat, Winter's Verge, Firewind, and literally thousands and thousands of other bands.

I talked about that in my first post.

You know when I see a person respond to a post, I usually go into one direction first:
Seeing the post as a reflection of the persons mind.

If you are insecure about metal, write a ****ing blog. There you can safely reinforce yourself and rule and conquer the input of others.

To bad I anticipated how this would go... (edit: not meant to be ironic)

I am not trying to make a point.
I am explaining how it is.

You are not able to accept something as simple as that, fine.

I don't feel the need to fight you, because I don't live in the same escapism as you do; Mine and my reason why I use forums is different.

This is a topic you have zero background on. Your opinion is irrelevant anyway.

[Hizumi]

TS:

Adagio
Essence of Sorrow
Solution .45
Evergrey - Their heaviest album is Torn in which they use 7-string Caparison Guitars.
The Absence
Terror2000
Whispered.
Dark Tranquillity
Deadlock
Dimmu Borgir
Eternal Tears of Sorrow
In Dread Response
Instant Suppression
Kill the Romance - Don't let the name fool you, Death/Thrash/Melodic Death Metal band from Finland.
Raintime - Like Into Eternity but Italian and use 7-Strings.
Skyfire.

[Dreakon]

I've enjoyed Deadlock (melodic death metal) for years, and recently started listening again. Give the albums Earth.Revolt, Wolves and Manifesto a try, if you're interested. Those are the three that include the female vocalist for more than just guest vocals, which is a huge plus in my book because she has a great voice. If you like Scar Symmetry, I'd say there's an outside chance you might like these guys. The ex-singer/screamer of Scar Symmetry even makes an appearance on the Deadlock song 'Dying Breed'.

Though I suggest you try Manifesto last. While I think it's really good and catchy, personally, the lyrics are terrible (infact, the lyrics on all the albums kinda suck, but particularly on that album) and it's essentially one long PETA ad. Makes me cringe sometimes, but they still win me over.

[MrTingTing]

You didn't debunk anything and Im not putting shit down. They are post hardcore.

What you do is keep replying untill you have the last word, then say you won a ''debate'' saying you ''debunked'' something...

If anything, they're metalcore

[Avarance]

If anything, they're metalcore

No, they are alternative metal.

[MrTingTing]

No, they are alternative metal.

Yea you're right, i mistook them for another band D;

[Hizumi]

I've enjoyed Deadlock (melodic death metal) for years, and recently started listening again. Give the albums Earth.Revolt, Wolves and Manifesto a try, if you're interested. Those are the three that include the female vocalist for more than just guest vocals, which is a huge plus in my book because she has a great voice. If you like Scar Symmetry, I'd say there's an outside chance you might like these guys. The ex-singer/screamer of Scar Symmetry even makes an appearance on the Deadlock song 'Dying Breed'.

Though I suggest you try Manifesto last. While I think it's really good and catchy, personally, the lyrics are terrible (infact, the lyrics on all the albums kinda suck, but particularly on that album) and it's essentially one long PETA ad. Makes me cringe sometimes, but they still win me over.

Yeah I own the CD of Wolves, great album.I love Melodeath, it made it easier for me to listen to stuff like Hour of Penance and Fleshgod Apocalypse. Even Cannibal Corpse without cringing. It's a shame a lot of metalcore bands that rip Swede-riffs from it can't do good-cop-bad-cop vocals decently.

Edit: TS

[power_gamer_6]

I like this new shit LaBrie put out. It's so damn good.