Really? How do you know this? Are you an expert on parenting? No, you're not. There's no evidence to support that the "old school" method only works on some kids. It's an old wives' tale to justify how parents in the old days didn't know how to properly raise a kid so they took out their frustrations on the child and just beat him like some kind of slave animal to get them to listen. In the end they didn't get obedience from their children, they got submission; two entirely different things.
It's discipline
through beating. There are many other, more effective ways of instilling discipline in a child.
That's just extrapolation. All of the successful people I've known around my age were not hit or struck. Their parents were, but they didn't do that to their kids. Their kids are turning out all right: most of my friends are ending up in tier 1 universities and getting awesome scholarships. Yr half right. The problem isn't picking up the belt, the problem is that kids aren't taking school seriously. There's absolutely no evidence to suggest that "spare the rod, spoil the child" has any weight to it as a theory. Even studies on spankings show little effect on a child's visible discipline and behavior. What
does show an effect is how a parent expects a child to be responsible for his actions, how much they push their child to be responsible in school, how demanding they are of a child to be polite and presentable in public, etc.
These show the changes in behavior, and none of this require a belt, yet it's discipline all the same.
http://umaine.edu/publications/4357e/ (just a quick summary article on some evidence and studies on spanking; don't feel like getting into heavy-duty backing up of my arguments.)
That's just laziness. You have to teach your child a lesson through violence? We're human beings, we learn and teach through conversation and thought, not beating each other and using pain like animals.
See, teaching a child through violence is the cowardly and lazy way out of parenting. You have to inflict pain to steer a child from wrong instead of doing the noble, ethical, and the more effective way of steering them toward right through reason, persuasion and commanding of respect. Why take the painful way when the other way is more effective? Simply because it's easier to strike or a child than reason with him or her in a way that will instill a lesson. But parenthood isn't easy.
I think my opinion on this stems from the idea that it's wrong to physically harm someone you love. I think it's as wrong to strike a child to teach a lesson as it is to strike your wife to teach her a lesson, or to strike an uncle, or your parents, etc. Why? Because you have a duty to yr loved ones to protect them and nourish them and love them. Yes, you have a duty to teach your child discipline, but to hit him to do it? It's plain weakness since there are as many ways to teach a child without violence as there are to teach a dog without hitting him, or teach a student algebra without hitting him, or debate an opponent in school without hitting him.
Am I saying that hitting a child doesn't teach him a lesson? No, not at all. Although it's already conclusive that spanking has never worked, that doesn't rule out other forms of corporal punishment being effective as well. I don't know, I'm not an expert. But it is very conclusive that non-corporal forms of instilling discipline, things such as holding them very responsible for their schoolwork, encouraging them to be respectful to others and making sure they are associating with other well-adjusted children, not the gangs on the block.
Now, you can choose to doubt all of that if you want. I don't feel like rooting out links to studies, but I'm entirely confident from having had to study this subject very seriously in the past that what I have said is still scientifically and practically up to date. If you do believe all of this, or looked up the research yourself and found that I am likely right (not going to 100% rule out that I can be wrong; I don't see the world in black and white), how can you doubt that hitting a child to teach a lesson is disgusting and unethical?
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