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    Quote Originally Posted by Untamed1337 View Post
    Arrogance is law.

    Anyways, I wrote up a bit a while back about my experience with this game. I played in CB and a bit in to OB.


    Alright game with fun combat and good PvP. Combat - PvP especially is very reliant on the 'OP class' and the 'best build', which has little variety. Moreso than anything, it is reliant on gear. As I said in the above quote, a +10 weapon is around 250-300% the damage of a +0 weapon. It's ****ing insanity.

    Think about it like this:
    Spend hundreds of dollars to get full +10 and be able to roll anyone who hasn't spent as much as you in the cash shop.
    OR
    Spend little to nothing in the cash shop and get killed in less than 5 hits by a 14 year old with a rich dad, whilst being able to not even get him down by 10% HP.
    Similar 'laws' apply in group PvP as well.

    Also, the content. There isn't a lot. There is a large amount of grinding after level 38 or so (last I remember, it's been a while), and that is partially due to the fact that there are very little quests for a lot of the levels after that. It may seem like it has more content, or at least gameplay hours, because of all the grinding. But to anyone who isn't a grind-a-holic, or to someone who plainly pays attention to where they have been in a game - it's not a lot of content. Less than 20 maps if I remember correctly. Not a massive amount of quests, especially later on.

    The game is good at the start. That's where it drags you in. Then you start getting more competitive as you get higher level, and it gets more grindy, and the +10'ers come out to play, etc etc.
    Although there wasn't much of a problem when I was playing (around the start of the open beta), it is very possible to use a good chunk of $$ to ***** out a character in this game (all rare items +10'd). Easy win for lower tier battlefields.

    Good luck with it nonetheless. I, personally, don't have many problems with GPotato as a game publisher - at least in comparison to other F2P game publishers.

    These days, most publisher companies who grab random games from Korea/Japan/China and translate them expect to make a lot of money. They pick games that they think will attract a big player base and that have a cash shop that keeps people coming back.

    Most of them do this, and thus you can no longer judge a F2P game publisher by how "overpowered" the cash shop is. They all are. You have to look at other aspects. For example:

    -How is the customer service? How available and active are the GMs? Both generally around in game, and available for support.
    -How often do they have events? Are they simple +50% EXP events, or are they GM-run events? GM-run events take much more time to coordinate and put together, so if they are being done (i.e. GMs are ingame while doing the event), then that is indeed a good sign. This also goes with the above question.
    -How are the cash shop prices? (Some games you can spend $50/month and be fine, others you may have to spend $5000/character to stay competitive)
    -How important do they portray integrity? (In other words, not lie. Whether this includes stuff in announcements they do/don't do, or just if they say that a maintenance will be 10 hours maximum and then extend it 5x *cough*Nexon*cough*.)
    -How often do their games get patches(Once a month? Once every 6 months? Never? Of course, the size(content/etc) of the average game patch also matters here.)
    -How many games has that company had that they have shut down? Have they been around for 6 or 8 years, but already have had more games shut down than they currently have running? Probably not a good sign.

    This is how I judge F2P game publishers.
    Nice review, but I think you mean "get killed instantly by someone who is old enough to have his own visa and a job and therefor can afford cash shop", i like how most F2P qq'ers seem to think that those who spends money on cash shop are really 14 year olds with rich dads when it's definatly the complete opposite, it's those who actually are old enough to have a job and credit card who spends, the 14year old ones are the non-spenders
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    that works to lmao. we should all make a guild lmao
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    But then lmao. it will last lmao. about 2 days lmao. just like every other onrpg guild lmao. lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishGeneral View Post
    i like how most F2P qq'ers seem to think that those who spends money on cash shop are really 14 year olds with rich dads when it's definatly the complete opposite, it's those who actually are old enough to have a job and credit card who spends, the 14year old ones are the non-spenders
    I was a tad hesitant to say '14 year old' in my previous post, because I am aware that most of the people that do spend hundreds or thousands are usually people in their 20s or 30s with a lot of extra money and time.

    That doesn't mean that most of them don't handle their money like a 14 year old. Some heavy cash shoppers even act like a '14 year old', at least in terms of being a good/poor sport. Spending $1000+ on a single character in a random F2P MMORPG is pathetic and borderline-******ed imo. But everyone has different priorities, I suppose.

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    The pvp is awesome, i wish it wasn't p2win. I don't mind paying some bucks a month for a game, but jeez, Iris is extreme in terms of cash shop.
    +10 weapon users totally dominate everyone, it's not funny anymore.

    I remember myself staying in the lvl 20 pvp bracket forever, facerolling everyone with my +10 gun

    I myself wouldnt have spent that much on it, i got the weapon from a friend btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishGeneral View Post
    Is there any info on when that new server comes out? "During winter" can be a lot of dates
    Don't really know, it was just announced yesterday, so i'm not really sure when myself but im pretty excited
    and its definately part of the new expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untamed1337 View Post
    I was a tad hesitant to say '14 year old' in my previous post, because I am aware that most of the people that do spend hundreds or thousands are usually people in their 20s or 30s with a lot of extra money and time.

    That doesn't mean that most of them don't handle their money like a 14 year old. Some heavy cash shoppers even act like a '14 year old', at least in terms of being a good/poor sport. Spending $1000+ on a single character in a random F2P MMORPG is pathetic and borderline-******ed imo. But everyone has different priorities, I suppose.
    That's what I would say about going out eating/drinking beer, spending 1000$ is borderline ******ed, but like you said, people have different priorities, if someone enjoys spending 1000$ on expensive restaurants/pubs, i won't say anthing about that, it's his/her choice. There are thousands of counter-examples, and tbh 100$/month for a hobby is pretty damn cheap
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    that works to lmao. we should all make a guild lmao
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    But then lmao. it will last lmao. about 2 days lmao. just like every other onrpg guild lmao. lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candyholic View Post
    The engine is extremely lack-luster and unoptimized, though.
    Oh and nothing, and I mean nothing, is smoother than WoW.
    True story.
    I was talking about the fluidity of combat, and the skilling system.
    I play with my level 19BG *****(Blood Elf Mage) In wow pvp all the time. certain skill over laps and casts do make wow's combat just a bit clunky or awkward from time to time but Iris's combat is just fluid as can be.

    Quote Originally Posted by shingoukieh View Post
    one thing that killed it for me in Iris is the begining area...the forest...so generic fantasy setting...i swear i seen this same setting in multiple f2p games it makes me lose all interest..same setting is in eden eternal as well....

    but yeah combat did seem smoother and graphics polished...
    Keep on playing and get higher levels and you see the whole psychedelic darkdream world theme start to flesh out. The raids are really cool themselves. the clown one is liek a dark carnival. psychedelic approoved.

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    Even Luvinia has better graphics and smoother gameplay than Iris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII View Post
    Well after the 7 years of games I have played.
    Iris is the best F2P when it comes to quality, I havent seen a F2P that has shown that kinda reall high quality and its also the only MMORPG with a psychedelic theme.
    lol, no. Sorry but just no, you're not gonna convince people to come play with you by saying crazy shit like that.

    anyways - I played Iris when it first came out a LOT.. like no lifed it (for a couple/few weeks? not sure). Then I just got burnt out and one day I never logged in again.

    the real issue is as people are saying here it's one of the worst cases of pay-to-win in any free to play MMO...

    I can't think of a game that's more pay to win than Iris. there's just such a huge gap between people depending how much money you spend on it. and that's really unhealthy for a game with a PVP emphasis (or, that's what I liked about it, despite the grinding being PVE)

    also there was a real issue with classes, the Berserkers and Warlocks were the most OP'd if I remember correctly, and then putting tons of cash into a OP character and you've just got this huge inbalance.

    don't really care if classes have been rebalanced, it's still going to have that pay to win model with cash upgrade slot adding, costumes with stats, add slots to costumes for more stats, +10 items give huge stat bonuses and the only way to upgrade that high is with cash.

    pretty much you had to buy everything in that game.

    so in conclusion, I really doubt I would log into it again, but they say there's a new class(es?) what would that be?

    EDIT: by the way. to the people arguing about who spends money on F2P games. you're stupid. there's adults with jobs working who spend money on them and there's kids who will spend their parents money on them, such as myself. its not one group or the other thats spending money.that's why F2P games are successful nowadays and can make more than P2P games.

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    http://www.onrpg.com/boards/185882.html

    Also, you seem to be one that frequently changes their heart. First you praise a game as being amazing and unique, and then you'll turn around and call it a horrible piece of junk that is made and run by greedy money mongers.



    I can see a post from you in a few weeks or months "A warning about Iris Online..."

    to quote another poster:

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    you said the exact same thing about prius

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII View Post
    Well after the 7 years of games I have played.
    Iris is the best F2P when it comes to quality, I havent seen a F2P that has shown that kinda reall high quality and its also the only MMORPG with a psychedelic theme.
    you said the exact same thing about prius

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    Quote Originally Posted by cell59 View Post
    you said the exact same thing about prius
    Exactly ;D The words iris and high quality dont belong in the same sentence

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTingTing View Post
    Exactly ;D The words iris and high quality dont belong in the same sentence
    *points to previous post and thread posted along with it*
    It helps if you learn to read.


    oh yeah.. forgot everyone here has this mentality.


    circa, if theres something that you dont liek that automatically makes it shit. :/ perfect mentality of you strange and off normal people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII View Post
    *points to previous post and thread posted along with it*
    It helps if you learn to read.

    i dont quite care for your previous post since your argument is invalid anyway. the only high quality f2ps are allods and runes of magic. Playing these games makes you feel how much work the developers invested into them.

    this however isn't the case in iris or prius where you have little to nothing to do.

    and now please don't come up with his "have you even played game X past lvl X herpaderp?"

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    also, bodybuilders donīt eat healthy

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    the only thing i like about Iris is the graphic style..but like ting allready said
    this game is far away from being a high quality f2p.

    btw..ting,me and MANY other people here play this game when it was new
    and we know what we are talking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTingTing View Post

    i dont quite care for your previous post since your argument is invalid anyway. the only high quality f2ps are allods and runes of magic. Playing these games makes you feel how much work the developers invested into them.

    this however isn't the case in iris or prius where you have little to nothing to do.

    and now please don't come up with his "have you even played game X past lvl X herpaderp?"
    I think youre just biased really.
    Ive played allods, along with several... excuse me at least 100+ MMORPGs myself.
    F2P P2P.
    IMo yuore just outright biased for no reason.

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