
Originally Posted by
ApocaRUFF
How can you even say something like, "What the hell else was he trying to tell them, that they were going to literally die if they didn't play hard enough? That their lives were worthless if they weren't winning their god damned football games? That's how some of the students might have felt."
When did he say anything about them dying? When did anyone say that? Not even the people who are complaining about it said that. He said that the people that ARE dead would give anything to have the chance to be alive again and give their all to accomplish something, instead of doing it half-assed.
"You can't compare bringing students to historic landmarks to some... random cemetery to for the students to lie on some random graves. The only metaphor it served was to say that the team's spirit was dead."
The landmark was a mass grave where hundreds (or thousands, I honestly don't know and don't care) of men died.
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There are so many better, less creepy methods of motivation. This is kinda like... crude scare tactic shit." There was no "scare tactics". He didn't say, "you'll end up here if you don't win this game!" He didn't even mention failure. Why? Because he was motivating them to succeed, not scaring them into succeeding. The only reason it scared or put some people off is because they were trained from a young age to be complainers. And most likely, some of them (or their parents) were uber religious and you know how religious people get.
"Should schools start plan field trips to sweat shops in third world countries to motivate their students as well?"
No. But they should plan field trips to sweat shops in third world countries to realize how good they have it. And how bad others have it. And how they should work hard to make sure that sweat shops (which do happen in America, especially to immigrants. There are still kids as young as 6 who work on farms where extremely dangerous chemicals are present in America. Most of them are illegal immigrants) can cease to exist someday.
"It's not about his intentions, of course he was trying to motivate his team, he just wasn't doing it in a pleasant or effective way."
That's the point I'm trying to make. You don't always get to learn things in pleasant ways. But what he did would have been effective if the kids had actually tried to take something from it, rather than be upset over it and cry to their parents. "Mommy *bottom lip quivers* the coach made us sit on top of graves and think about dead people *burst into tears*"
"Or you know, it could be that he just wasn't a good coach, or that the students weren't very good."
What are you even trying to accomplish with this sentence? "He wasn't a good coach, or that the students weren't very good" I don't get what you're trying to prove with it?
"Just because you got abused as a kid doesn't mean you have to do it to the next generations, jackass."
I was never abused as a kid. The most punishment I ever received was a slap. Do you know why? Because my mother (who was the one who raised me) did an effective job in raising me and I rarely did anything that would warrant being punished.
But I suppose you'll say that getting slapped is abuse, as well, yes?
And why bring personal insults into this? Are you really that in over your head that your best closing argument is pulling something out of your *** and then calling me a name?