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    Default Smoking, no actual permanent damage?

    Well, the threads title is pretty misleading, what I meant is.. stopping with smoking will eventually lead to no permanent damage? As in - the same as before?

    Nearly all the "stop with smoking" websites show "After 1 week.. after 2 week.. after 5 years." and it pretty much comes down to "After 7-8 years all the bad shit will be gone.

    I'm not looking to stop smoking, I'm just wondering.
    I'm thinking about stopping cigarettes, and only smoke it when I'm smoking weed, which is.. twice a week?

    That shouldn't be such a pain in the *** for my lungs, rite?!

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    Any exposure to cancerogenous matters over a sustained period of time heighten your risk to develop cancer later in your life.

    So, no. Never back to normal.

    However, the chance will get a lot lower. The main point is to get out of the risk group as fast as possible, that makes up over 80% of premature death due to cancer cases (a more drastic view is what the CDC says about the US: More people in the US die due to smoking caused cancer, than car accidents, HIV, illegal drug use, murders and suicides combined). After that your chances aren't as good as if you never smoked, but there is no real statistical step anymore when you stop before ~30.

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    I think the whole "its already too late" attitude is pretty lame. so yeah, go for it. even if it doesn't recover completely its better than what it'd be if you kept doing it.

    I only vaporize now. my health has noticeably taken a turn for the better.

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    you have a lower chance than a smoker. You will never return to the rates of a non-smoker. If I remember correctly, after 7-8 years or whatever you have like a 50-75% lower rate to develop problems compared to someone still smoking. Still a 25-50% higher rate than someone who never smoked. Still better than a 75+% increase though.

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    I don't get smoking. Women smoking isn't even attractive. I hate these Highschool girls now going around asking me for some cigarettes, like.. that's just stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked315 View Post
    I don't get smoking. Women smoking isn't even attractive. I hate these Highschool girls now going around asking me for some cigarettes, like.. that's just stupid.
    Blame the media

    No seriously, blame the media.

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    They have vaporizers in the shops here, guess I'll switch to that..
    Mhh, smoking about 4-5 cigars a week shouldn't be such a hazard for my health right, or is even that way to much >___>"

    /searching for a portable vaporizer
    I obviosuly can't have a big vaporizer in my room because, well, I live at home.

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    I wouldnt mind smoking if ive been given the chance to live 2 times in this world.

    ...Heck.. even that prolly i wouldnt smoke as well :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Additcions work that way...

    The brain tells you that you "need" it. That it's "great". It more or less does that because it "loves" the addictive.
    Depends on the thing you're addicted to.

    If it changes the chemistry of your body then your body will stop, or at the very least slow down production of said chemical because you're receiving it from an outside source. When you stop taking whatever it is, your body doesn't just start right back up on producing whatever chemical we're talking about, which means you're missing chemicals that you probably need to survive.

    That's beyond just you thinking you "need" it, you literally do need it in order to survive.

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    I used to smoke one package a day, I have reduced it to a few cigarettes now Im not going to stop smoking weed though NEVERRR



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashis View Post
    That could be applied to a lot of things though, not just smoking. I mean take a look at tanning and how some folk don't realize that it's harmful and can have lasting effects. We use the sun to dry out leather and turn it into clothing. How can people not grasp the relation to that and their skin?

    Don't people smoke meat to cook it? And that process doesn't have nearly the same amount of chemicals that a cig has. Think about it like that.
    This further enforces my point imo.

    As for smoked meat - This is very different, as you are not inhaling that smoke directly, but eating something that has been exposed to it. However, we have known for ages that eating shit that's been roasted black is unhealthy for us, and it sorta ties together with that.
    At the end of the day, materials created by, or exposed to, the chemical process that takes place when something is on fire, is generally not healthy.

    But you see this kinda idiocy everywhere though - like when you see incredibly overweight people slop down into a seat at Mcdonalds and order 3 bigmac sets for themselves alone - Several of them who'll at some point in their life either ask "Why did my heart have to fail?", or "Why can't I lose weight?".

    Instead of printing pictures of sick lunges on tabacco cartoons, they should start putting up large signs everywhere that say stuff like

    "Stop being a god damn ******",

    "Stop and think - you probably did something stupid between the time you woke up, and the moment you saw this sign."

    "For everything in your life you can't make sense of, slap yourself in the face".

    and/or

    "Every time you do something stupid, a child dies cold and alone out in the dark - Let's save a child by thinking!"
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    I always find it ironic when the oldest people get interviewed and asked what is their secret to living long.
    Some of them respond by saying they smoked all their life, ate a lot of bacon and drank a lot of wine.

    Not saying smoking can't lead to a high chance of cancer.
    It's just that everyone's body is different and some things that kill others won't kill you.

    Moderation is usually the key.
    You could die by drinking too much water, but it would take a hefty amount to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyviusRan View Post
    I always find it ironic when the oldest people get interviewed and asked what is their secret to living long.
    Some of them respond by saying they smoked all their life, ate a lot of bacon and drank a lot of wine.

    Not saying smoking can't lead to a high chance of cancer.
    It's just that everyone's body is different and some things that kill others won't kill you.
    Yes but smoking ****s your body up, fact. You will be healthier without it, fact.

    How long you live is a completely different thing, and it's affected by many many other factors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotyman View Post
    Well, the threads title is pretty misleading, what I meant is.. stopping with smoking will eventually lead to no permanent damage? As in - the same as before?

    Nearly all the "stop with smoking" websites show "After 1 week.. after 2 week.. after 5 years." and it pretty much comes down to "After 7-8 years all the bad shit will be gone.

    I'm not looking to stop smoking, I'm just wondering.
    I'm thinking about stopping cigarettes, and only smoke it when I'm smoking weed, which is.. twice a week?

    That shouldn't be such a pain in the *** for my lungs, rite?!
    BLASPHEMY! Let me teach you a lesson, if you smoke weed, only smoke weed and for the most part drop everything else bad, because when people try to criticize you, you say "this is illegal, but tobacco and alcohol are 3X worse." Smoking weed and cigarettes is just a double negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djfizzle View Post
    BLASPHEMY! Let me teach you a lesson, if you smoke weed, only smoke weed and for the most part drop everything else bad, because when people try to criticize you, you say "this is illegal, but tobacco and alcohol are 3X worse." Smoking weed and cigarettes is just a double negative.
    I wouldn't be so sure on that. Moderate to light weed smoking actually improves lung function. If your a heavy user then your ****ing with your lungs. So it could go both ways depending on how much you use. The JAMA said this, so don't try to throw your "opinion" at me versus one the most highly acredited scientific journals.

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